Saturday, 5 June 2010

Lockdown in Birmingham


Well well

A £3M grant from the Government anti terrorist initiative has seen 150 APNR cameras installed in a Muslim area of Birmingham.

When the cameras become operative, residents will not be able to drive into or leave the two neighbourhoods without their movements being tracked.


Nice. Before you all wade in, I'd like you to consider that the Government is now treating innocent citizens as suspects. Before you all wade in, I'd like you to consider whether the Government will at some point consider you to be a terrorist suspect too. Before you all wade in, isn't this exactly the opposite of what the Government promised? Do you really think they will stop at just two neighbourhoods?

I though collective punishment was just what the Israelis did.

32 comments:

Anonymous said...

My first thought is : "They're only muslims, who gives a fuck what they think. Keep them in lockdown."

Then I thought it might spread to normal people as well, well now I'm worried.

We must find a way to keep the muslims in check and under submission whilst normal, civilised people go about their honest, non-terroristic business.

bofl said...

isn't that racist?

from the house of thieves that wants diversity,equality etc....

the general fuckwittery of successive governments has allowed millions of immigrants into the uk.then we go round the globe blowing the hell out of their homelands......

perhaps one of the 646 might have foreseen some resentment?

but then again they are all playing their silly power games.......

and now they are not even hiding it any more......


http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm/cmallparty/register/memi589.htm

and then they will come for you said...

Anon 12.00

But what about the other areas that will be next for surveillance ? IRA loving areas ? Or animal rights activists, pro hunting lobbyists, Stop the war folk, anti capitalists , racists, anti israeli etc.
The list of areas that will be next is endless and can be continually added to.
There will be a few areas without cameras. Probably a gated compound owned by a rich banker who has his own private security camers to keep everyone else out. Apart from the serfs who cut his grass and clean his toilets etc..

Anonymous said...

It Really is just getting too ridiculous,new drink driving laws to be reviewed,binge drinking demonized as a problem,and now this shite,
Its all about uber-control and DNA data bases and fines,no mention of any positives in peoples lives,
Are we all happy? Are we Fook!!

yardarm said...

From the Christian doctrine of Original Sin the State has changed to concept to one in that we are all born guilty, Original Guilt.

Anonymous said...

" I'd like you to consider that the Government is now treating innocent citizens as suspects"

Ummm....but that's how the judicial system has always worked. When, for instance, a murder is committed, EVERYONE is a suspect until they are either eliminated or a suspect emerges from the crowd of innocents. If being innocent of a crime but being a suspect is your principle objection then shouldn't you support measures that will both eliminate you from inquiries and expedite the process of the suspect being identified?

Anonymous said...

IT's all about surveillance STOOPID!!!

J Demetriou said...

What do you think of my article on the matter, Holby?

Anonymous said...

Surely all this will achieve is to create more tensions between the indeginous Brits and the muslim communities .
Welcome to Bosnia.
Thanks Labour.

Pot Kettle Black said...

A good article until the stupid comment about Israel at the end.

When a nation is at war with another nation that's exactly you do - 'collectively punish' your enemies.

I suppose Hamas only selectively punishes Jews, and all the other Islamofascists only selectively punish certain western infidels?

You really are a dumbass sometimes.

Anemone said...

Can I draw your attention to this piece which I saw some years ago:-
http://www.angelfire.com/realm3/accord/sleep.htm
It sort of sums up the situation under discussion.

Shanghai's Right Wrist said...

It's the hidden camera's that you should all be worried about. Every main airport in the UK is monitored covertly in all area's. From the moment you arrive in the car park your number plate and image is recorded and facial recognition software is used. Even when you are taking a crap in the airport toilets or just scratching your arse in the duty free shop, smile because you are on camera.

Ashtrayhead said...

'Even when you are taking a crap in the airport toilets or just scratching your arse in the duty free shop, smile'

I do it the other way round.

prosu said...

How queer. Nobody seemed to mind when Leeds and Bradford did this a few years ago. It was wrong then and is wrong now. A tool designed for MI5 to combant the IRA is being used against all of us.

Why is ACPO administering Government funds?

Anonymous said...

Diversity = increased authoritarianism.

Something the supporters of mass immigration i.e. liberals, leftists, libertarians and Laissez-faire capitalists should have thought about.

Still, they can always up sticks and bugger off abroad, as they are incessantly threatening to do, leaving the rest of us to face the mess they helped create.

Wavy Gravy said...

14.43 Troll alert. Degsy Haslam we all know what you get up to in airport toilets eh;)

Anonymous said...

prosu "Why is ACPO administering Government funds?"

Damned good question and I think this makes it clear that the answer is "they shouldn't!"

They've already made it clear that they don't like what Cameron and his cabinet are up to and have been waging a PR campaign against them. Time to rein them in BIG TIME and yes, making them directly answerable to the communities that they SERVE is a good idea.

Khaled Yusuf said...

Your grasp of the current situation has all the finesse of a GCSE Politics essay Old Holborn.

No wonder you find such an eager audience in the likes of that twat McEgan et al.

No doubt this comment will soon be replaced with 'This post has been removed by a blog administrator.'

You pretentious hypocrite.

Anonymous said...

Clearly the attack against Iran has been given the go ahead and they expect unrest.

Such is what happens when you attack foriegn lands while importing masses of their people.

both serve the same purpose, the destruction of the nation state and the spread of the NWO empire, the unrest that ensures means the NWO can set up patsys for the state sponcered terror which in turn spreads the police state which they will need when they totally collapse the economy and plunge us into the dark ages.

Still hands up who played right into their hands, welcoming hoards of immigrants for fear of being called a racist, while racially attacking Brits like well conditioned sheep and letting our politicians get away with murder!

You get the goverment you deserve.

Anonymous said...

Anon 5 June 2010 18:48
'making them directly answerable to the communities that they SERVE is a good idea.'

A nice idea in theory. But you forget we are no longer a homogenous nation with a shared idea of law and order and justice.

In Balkanised Britain, making the police directly answerable to the communities they serve will inevitably mean cops turning a blind eye to a whole load of ‘culturally sensitive’ bullshit in shitholes like Bradford, Luton, Oldham etc….

What am I saying, they do that already! Laws now are selectively enforced in the interests of ‘social cohesion’.

Wavy Gravy said...

18.55 troll alert. That is Comrade Haslam who registered Ron over on the Torygraph. Again.

Anonymous said...

Quite right - and a timely comment about the zionist entity too.

Knowledge is power and they obviously want to know as much as possible about us...

Start with an unpopular group like the muslims, then when people get used to that, deal with the rest of us.

orackers said...

Now come on OH, this site is odds on being monitored. Our ISP's are all on the GCHQ database, and all our whacko right wing comments are being logged. How do we know you are not just an agent provocateur yourself? I sure as shit don't trust Guido. We just have to hope we are all dead before the Islamic republic is declared and we cannot eat bacon rolls any more.

God is great. :)

Anonymous said...

Your last comment is wrong, OH.
It's what the Nazis and various others also did, not just the Israeli ZioNAZIs. Adolf would be proud of them, and Goebbels would be impressed at how the dumb goy masses have been made to kill and hate Muslims instead of the ones who are the real threat.

Anonymous said...

They could bomb Birmingham for all I care. Along with Tower Hamlets, Hackney, Stoke Newington, Willsden.

All shitholes.

Must be a nightmare for the camera operators given that the fuckers all look / dress the same.

Anonymous said...

They could bomb Birmingham for all I care. Along with Tower Hamlets, Hackney, Stoke Newington, Willsden.

All shitholes.

Must be a nightmare for the camera operators given that the fuckers all look / dress the same.

Pete said...

Why does ACPO still exist?

BTW The israelis are the *good* guys...

Nick2 said...

To most people CCTV surveillance is a sort of NIMBY issue rather than a civil liberties one... they're not too worried if it exists in the centre of towns or 'exotic' area, but not in Acacia Avenue, thanks.

The problem with CCTV, even in town centres is mission creep. What starts out as a supposedly cheaper alternative to Police units (sorry, augmentation to them) is used initially to detect street crime rather than terrorism (at least in most towns). But the CCTV operators are employed 24*7, even at times of the day of low crime. The cameras then are used to detect 'anti social activity'.

I know this to be true in at least one South Yorkshire town - my father was in a group shown round the CCTV suite by Police PR. The Plods wanted to show off their upgraded & repositioned cameras, which could zoom in up to a quarter of a mile away in very low light. They couldn't show any examples of detected street crime, but they did have a tasty collection of infra red video clips showing flagrant anti-social activity such as a man urinating on a piece of waste ground in pitch darkness, as well as a couple shagging in another deserted, (privately owned) area of waste ground, again in darkness. The Police wanted to tell the group (of law abiding OAPs) that EVERYTHING that happened in the town was on tape.

Tell me that's not abuse of power.

Steve Tierney said...

Your endless attacks on the Jewish people devalue your entire position. Sorry.

Old Holborn said...

Steve, Israel can do what it likes

I just wish we weren't sending billions to them to prop up a racist regime, AND sending billions to the Gazans to protect them from the starvation the Israelis are inflicting on them.

I can hear them laughing in Tel Aviv

Anonymous said...

No, not just the Israelis. Any sensible punter facing an existential threat.

Also, does a CCTV installation really count as 'punishment' or do you have a victim complex. Much like the other people who hate Israel.

Anonymous said...

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