Sunday, 20 June 2010

Big Issue, Sir?

It costs us £1M to produce this, thanks to Socialists

Revolutionary. The founder of the Big Issue, John Bird has demanded that the Govt slash benefits. His logic is absolutely flawless.

80% of people selling the Big Issue were raised in social care programmes costing over £2000 a week. If they've been in care for ten years, that's cost you and I £1M for each and every one of them. In comparison, sending them to Eton for ten years would have cost just a quarter of that.

Just think of the misery spared, the opportunities and avenues opened up by a first class education, the payback in productive and responsible citizens. Cracking idea. Now, let's see private schools applying to councils to take their vulnerable children in care away from a life of crime, drugs and alcohol and into a life of education, responsibility and personal wealth.

Will it happen? Will it fuck. The state has built an enormous and expensive apparatus for churning out "victims" who will need to be fed, housed and clothed exclusively by the State. No way are half a million social workers, "outreach" workers and diversity coordinators going to hand over their budgets and jobs to people who actually get the job done at a quarter of the cost.

"Please stay poor. My job and pension depend on it"

John goes further. By slashing benefits, the drugs trade will collapse, along with fast food outlets and betting shops. All happily sponsored using OUR money to keep people in poverty and misery.

If you were applying for a job in a private company, no one would expect the same generous pension as were on offer 20 years ago. The same should apply to the benefits system


Do it. Cut hard and cut now. No one wants to be revisiting this in five years time. Free the poor from the clutches of the State. At last.

69 comments:

Ampers said...

With the best will in the world, I don't think he would have fitted in at Eton ;-)

But I get your very well made point, and we all know that people in care or benetis will vote Labour so as not to lose their easy life.

But how easier is it than the pretty girl in the Lamborghini?

Ampers

Old Holborn said...

Ampers, the system made him what he is, just as your upbringing made you the upstanding citizen you are proud to be.

Just think, Baby P could have founded a scientific research company after graduating from Cambridge.

Not a chance. Social workers knew best

Filthy Rich said...

I always tell Big Issue sellers, 'no thanks I have it delivered, unlike you I have a letterbox.' There is nothing quite so funny as having a smelly unwashed Jock running after you shouting "You fecking smug cunt."

bofl said...

the drugs trade would collapse?

how many people on benefits sniff a line of coke every night at £60 a time?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

if the country in general doesn't produce anything of value then it is doomed to bankruptcy////

millions of non-jobs only produce more non-jobs.......

governments of any persuasion are only interested in fiddling the dole figures and avoiding reality....

still they won't suffer will they?

Old Holborn said...

The thing that always amazes me is that the thick fuckers just sell one magazine.

They spend all day selling ONE magazine. If I was in their shoes, I spend all my profits on buying 20 types of magazine and a camping table. Bingo. Mobile news vendor in less than a week. Set up outside railway stations and wherever large crowds gather and have to wait. Not even WH Smiths can do that.

Old Holborn said...

Bofl. As I picked up my Sunday Papers this morning, I saw two dossers snorting crystal meth in the churchyard.

I paid for that. So did you.

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James said...

I doubt the bookies would go under, Royal Ascot didn't seem to have much dole scum in attendance. The National Lottery (aka Moron tax) would suffer though !

Knacker Of The Yard said...

OH, many Bigger Shoes sellers also have a sideline in the illicit products you mention.

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Anonymous said...

The thing that always amazes me is that the thick fuckers just sell one magazine.

They spend all day selling ONE magazine. If I was in their shoes, I spend all my profits on buying 20 types of magazine and a camping table. Bingo. Mobile news vendor in less than a week. Set up outside railway stations and wherever large crowds gather and have to wait. Not even WH Smiths can do that.



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Wouldnt work the shopkeepers would complain to the Police and you would be arrested for trading without a licence or something. Its the unique nature of this magazine that allows them to trade on the street without complaint from other Traders.

Like the idea about private education, perhaps a trust fund set up with the avings made rom the dismanteling of the "Care Industry".

Build New Schools with that all with the ethos of our top notch private schools. Great idea. And you are correct these kids are born into misery and we would be just like 'em if it was our lot in life. They are as capable of achieving great things as any one else but they need to be removed from their environment of despair.

Glosman said...

OH, you're as fucked up as Mr Bird...
You pair of cunts

haddock said...

the Big Issue sellers in my part of the world are all foreign women ( Roma? ), the fuckers can't even be bothered to learn how to say "please buy a Big Issue" preferring to yell "beegeeshoooo" at you;
they must all think that fuckoff is a standard cheery English greeting.

Anonymous said...

...Do it. Cut hard and cut now.

Yeh freedom to starve under a so-called "democratic" govt. Oh and if you dont like it, join the Army, yeh right!

If I was on state ben, and smacked off my tits, and someone pulled this shite, Id be on the fuckin' rampage and I'd take down as many "law-abiding" folk I could find.
I would'nt give a shit. After all Id have fuck all to lose.

Oldrightie said...

They sell one mag only because under Labours' failed comprehensive education policy "experiment", (bliars only ever true word) they couldn't cope with the arithmetic.

Tory Coke/Cock sniffer said...

Floreat Etona

Anonymous said...

Carlisle has a big-issue seller romanian?
comes into city on a bus from miles around, has been banned from several charity shops for stealing.
evil bitch.
will run out ofdog food one day, she better watch out.

john in cheshire said...

Anonymous 14.34. Good idea. It would also give the likes of me the excuse to carry out a rampage against those who we despise and don't believe deserve to live amongst us normal people. do it please, it would be so cathartic. and those who have no fear, because they haven't ever been afraid, would suddenly realise their place in the world. muslims and socialists immediately spring to mind.

Old Holborn said...

anon 14.34

Bring it on.

Me and my shotgun vs you in a baseball cap with a baseball bat.

Herr Lisp said...

Apologies, stumbled on this site, though I was on a BNP blog.

Anonymous said...

Oh brollies at dawn!

Jesus loves you all said...

EASY NOW!

It will be the middleclasses turn next - that is who they are really after said...

First, I fully agree that people in care should get the very best posible, there are some scemes around and they do work well, but also the parents of said persons should be made to pay what they can for it also, otherwise they will be dumped on us faster than you can say lone youth asylum seeker!

scrap the asylum system or arterr enforce it as ir should be - first safe country you arrive at, not first country with the highest rewards, which means no more asylum seekers, the current system is bogus, mass immigration by any other name.

So you have to think these things through OH or it will break before you can say libertarian open borders nitwit.

Next if you think you can slash benefits, then you clearly hav never tried living on them, pay for drugs, what is this bollocks, the drugs are payed for through crime and as it happens our goverment is protecting the crops that are destroying our peoples lives, something else you and mr big tissue never really thought through.

No doubt the tosspot has been been given a state talking point sheet and is now a total puppet, this has NWO written all over it, kick the poor so they can be treated like third world slaves in rags for the corporations, while undermining the middleclass education system.

perfect NWO stuff.

Looking forward to the arogant middleclasses getting their asses spanked by that global warming tax that is on its way.

all the fashuion consious sheep that oooh at samantha c, the plastic tree huggers and fake greeny eco loons in the middleclass that bought into the hupe and bullshit fashion that was global warming will finally be made to pay for their imbecillic actions, all to often the poor get the kicking from the middleclasses, well soon enough they will get theirs and what is even more delicious, it will be the Tories doing it!

Oh and if you think that will be the end of it, wait till they build their ECO towns in the Tory shires, you do know they will infact be used as a trojan horse to get as many immigrants into middleclass areas as they possibly can, so their will be no place for you fake liberal tossers to run, time to take your own medicine.

and all you currently feeling smug and cmfortable wondering what depression - you haven't even had a tickle of the real shit storm that is due in about 6 - 12 months, then you will be wondering how the f*ck you will survive on £40 PW that you currently think is such a royal sum. currently they are all members of the local golf and polo clubs seeing as they have so much disposable income, and while you tossers were spouting about free range and fair trade(all bullshit) these people lived on beans on toast 7 days a week. lets just hope you don't smoke as it will not look cool smoking them rollups.

So with the foreign students and chavs filling up the private schools will their be any room for tarquin and bethany and they be any better off for sending them there?

as your middleclass areas start to resemble chav town, all part of the big plan.

and that lovely 4x4 will have to go when the eco police start laying the boot in.

see ya in a year, when you may look much like the man in the picture after your carrer dies, your wife leaves, your house price collapses and the wife takes half, and mcdonalds demand you do minimum wage with a bunch of mongs and dangerously mentally ill types.

More will get that reality than you realise.

RantinRab said...

What's with all the Eastern European Big Tissue sellers?

Are we importing dossers now?

Anonymous said...

Oh and what's more, there will be NO recovery, this austerity is the long term plan, why do you think the NWO stripped the west of its industies and manufacturing base, that is where the real wealth was, the real money, the productivity.

all gone, and getting worse with each passing day, and soon Mr Rothschild will be charging you per mile to use HIS roads!

have fun in your little dreamworld, you will get a rude awakening from Eurofascist dave and his eco scammers shortly.

Anonymous said...

RantinRab said...
What's with all the Eastern European Big Tissue sellers?

Are we importing dossers now?

20 June 2010 17:05

All part of the plan to destoy the nation, starting with it's identity, once that goes you are no longer a nation, just a plot of real estate for the corporations.

Anonymous said...

The current attacks on Working Families Tax Credit, and such like, show that this Govt is targeting ordinary working class people. And as for those buying drugs with state ben, you're taking the piss.

Try looking at the Osborne/Call me Dave brigade for coke snorting.
Same shit with NuLab, champagne socialists, who are no different from this blue-labour shower.

galloway attacked and now the UAF attacked by their `own`. said...

EDL planned a protest but called it off, the UAF turned up to try and provoke violence as per usual and this is how it ended up, reports from UAF clowns -

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2010/06/454034.html

"Five Anti-Fascists on the way to the demo have been attacked by a large group of Asian youth reacting after the fear spread by the English Defence League

Two have been taken to hospital with stab wounds, I'll post an update when I get it from my mate down in London."

This shows how much of a danger the EDL asre and why they must be opposed. They organise their demos and it gets the local Asians feeling angry. We need to reach out to Muslims communities and tell them that we show solidarity with them against the EDL."

Update

20.06.2010 14:40
"They weren't stabbed, one was hit by a bottle the others were just beat up a bit. All are ok, the two in hospital are there for minor cuts and bruising.
And EDL, fuck off back to where you came from. This is your fault for causing tension in the communities."

That's right the UAF and assorted paid union globalist worker destroying scum and Galloway (who was also recently attacked by his fellow travellers enriching the nation i read -
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-18034715-hate-mob-attacks-galloway.do )

get beaten up by the people they are supposed to be on side with and they blame the EDL for their woes?

Perhaps they should join the EDL and give up on their brainwashed lost cause, as it's not looking good for them, their political pets no longer need them now they have the numbers.

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ingas said...

Your master plan has some merit in theory, but it is unlikely to work.

There is indeed a whole industry making money out of the perpetuation of poverty, but those people are often quite intelligent themselves - if some of their clients may not be. They are very likely to be well supported by the BBC in particular. The government has not got the balls to risk the riots, the obstructive behaviour and the stream of propaganda of deserving poor comitting suicide in their droves.

So its just another pipe dream that aint gonna happen.

The state should give people work. Not free money. Give them hours of work. Clean our filthy streets. Weed our verges. But give people work. Then the market will not be competing with a life of voluntary idleness.

And why not legalise drugs anywa?. Its a huge business. How much tax do dealers pay? How much VAT is collected?

The big issue sellers in Glasgow seem mostly east european now. I don't give them any money any more. Or the accordian players. Or those fake peruvian pan pipers with their mimed tape. Fucking glorified begging.

Anonymous said...

Same in North Wales, tons of east european BI seelers, especially in Llandudno (mind you, theres lots of Jock pensioners - so maybe they brought them down on the wee coach?)

King Dave of Cameroon said...

Damned commoners

Harri said...

How strange !

Here in Slovakia, the crime rates have plummeted since good old blighty has been so decent enough to take all our Eastern european dross in !

Thanks by the way, i am packaging up the rest of the thieving, murdering, muggers, rapists and kiddie fiddling gippos as we speak ?

Many, many thanks ?

Its probably just all pure coincidence by the way, but keep up the sterling work of clearing out all of the unwanted Eastern european dross anyway ?

And another fing, Eastern european women sure are easy on the eyes, thats maybe why most of them end up on there backs in good old blighty getting fucked senseless for £40 for 30 minutes by just about each and every Paki whom has enough left to fritter away from his/hers ' benefits ?

Thats the trouble with the truth ( along with life ) it sure is a bitch at times.

" It will start in the Balkans and end in the Balkans "

It always does !

Anonymous said...

"ingas said...
Your master plan has some merit in theory, but it is unlikely to work.

There is indeed a whole industry making money out of the perpetuation of poverty, but those people are often quite intelligent themselves - if some of their clients may not be. They are very likely to be well supported by the BBC in particular. The government has not got the balls to risk the riots, the obstructive behaviour and the stream of propaganda of deserving poor comitting suicide in their droves."

Wrong, the plan is to bring everyone to their knees, EVERYONE, destabilise the nation and bring in a global totalitarian state, the effect of the tories kicking the poor will simply to drive them back into the arms of Labour, who had the same plans anyway, but again the mug punters will run to the other team to save them and then wonder why things are only getting worse.

"So its just another pipe dream that aint gonna happen."

Labour planed and the tories are implimenting it, it is a NWO goal and like the EU it will come to be.

"The state should give people work. Not free money. Give them hours of work. Clean our filthy streets. Weed our verges. But give people work. Then the market will not be competing with a life of voluntary idleness."

NO the state should invest in our young rather than import ready qualified and experienced immigrants which stripped the young of hope, then rebuild the education system to enable us to compete at a world class level and not just those in private education, by using grammar schools and rebuild our industry sector, of course this will not happen as the plan is to de industialise the west not build it up all the while destabilising it.

Also the socail security system has been used a tool to flood the country with immigrants both to entice incommers and also to pacify the natives whe they lost their jobs, if they thought they would starve there would have been massive riots the first downturn in the economy, this may happen now but they now have the numbers where shutting the door will no longer make a difference.

So now they can turn the megre tap off, when things start to kick off in comes the next round of police state measures.

so nothing good will come of it, nothing, what you are proposing is in fact state sponsered slavery, which can be seriously abused when the goverment should invest in our young etc and stop protecting the drug crops but destroy them.

The stated goal is the chinese system where the average person earns a bowl of rice a day, has one child and is held to ransom by the main corporate employer or state employer with all freedom stripped from you, they have stated this as their aim.

"And why not legalise drugs anywa?. Its a huge business. How much tax do dealers pay? How much VAT is collected?"

Because it would lower prices and they would not make as much profit as well as getting many groups such as parents all hot and bothered about it, yes the state sells and imports the drugs, see the Iran contra affair and our protection of the poppy plantations in Afghanistan.

"The big issue sellers in Glasgow seem mostly east european now. I don't give them any money any more. Or the accordian players. Or those fake peruvian pan pipers with their mimed tape. Fucking glorified begging.

20 June 2010 18:38"

Selling the big issue helps no one, while they are doing that shit they could be getting help and doing something truly worthwhile, and yes it now seems we are importing the worlds no hopers who will be needing housing, which is what it is really all about, as if we didn't have enough problems of our own, but hey the globalists see you as just stock to move around like pawns as and when it pleases.

Next will be prisoners sent to Chinese gulags as it will be cheaper in the global world, well at least for a short while, we will soon hit the bowl of rice a day level they are aiming for with state slaves and a hitler youth.

Yasant said...

Lots of censorship, er... moderation, goin' on today, old bean.

An' dere's me finkin' "OH, e's a straight guy he is. Never messes wiv da puntas, he don't. He tol' me dat 'imself, he did".

Yurr.

Johnny Cadillac said...

What do Les Freres Miliband/Diane Abbott/Ed Balls think of foxes being tortured? What is the plural form for "Milibands" anyway?

Anonymous said...

I doubt many here have had a snort for a while, £10 wraps round my way, one of the few things that has steadily got cheaper in real terms over the years

KiskaI Is A Fat Bloke In Drag said...

OH, Can you explain why (if National Foods Standards Agency is so perfect) it did not exhonerate Cross & Blackwell after Shanon Taylors false claim for their beans making her fart?

Anonymous said...

Johnny, plural probably Millibandi or Millibanda, but what is the collective noun?

A clot of Millibanda

An ineffectuality of Millibandi

A sinister of dews?

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Old Holborn said...

Sorry, comments will remain closed until Ron Broxted and his army of personality disorders get bored and go over to B&D's place

I am Stan said...

Just think of the misery spared, the opportunities and avenues opened up by a first class education, the payback in productive and responsible citizens. Cracking idea. Now, let's see private schools applying to councils to take their vulnerable children in care away from a life of crime, drugs and alcohol and into a life of education, responsibility and personal wealth.

Hahahahaha fucking hell your as delusional as he is Holby,yeah I can just see hundreds of piss heads and smack heads lounging around on Etons hallowed lawns,arguing over the last dregs of White Lightening and pissing in the fountains while waving their cocks at the young lasses hahahah...

I am Stan said...

By the way,the waste of oxygen in your picture is not a big issue seller,legit seller`s have to wear a Big Issue tabard,its a popular tactic by beggars to pretend their sellers and when youve handed over your cash they weasel out of handing the issue over,

eg "its me last one mate can I just ave the money"..

Worth a read the issue.....

Old Holborn said...

Stan, the point I am making is that social services create the monsters we see dribbling near railway stations.

Public boarding schools rarely do and cost a quarter of the price.

Pack them off to Winchester or Rugby aged 7 and you have not just saved a life but a million of taxpayers money.

bofl said...

there are roma women selling big issue in my town too.....definately from romania because i asked one of them....i guess they can come here as they are part of the splendid eu?

i suppose they come here for money or to get away from alleged racial tensions at home? whatever their reasons are, i cannot see that they actually bring any value to the uk.

and this is a major problem -we keep pissing money away and get little in return.

a large part of the gb population seem to think that we have a never ending supply of wealth to fritter away.....only when this idea is extinguished and those responsible are held to account,will things change.........ie blair,brown,darling,adam applegarth,rbs,b+b.......treasury advisers,council officers that 'invested' in iceland etc.........

as for ejukashun........
the clash said it all in white riot 33 years ago....'white people go to school-where they teach you how to be thick'

I am Stan said...

What the fuck are you talking about, believing that private education can replace social services and we`ll all live happy ever after ,the packing off of damaged kids to the most exclusive schools in the land,who decides who goes Holb`s,what criteria and all still at the tax payers expense...sounds like Socialism to me....dream on!.

Old Holborn said...

Stan

Offer private boarding schools £250k per pupil and watch them queue to take whoever is available.

12000 kids in care in Scotland alone

Now, do you really want 12,000 more pissed up violent ginger heroin addled drunks with chips on their shoulders wandering the streets of London in 10 years time?

Or would you prefer 12,000 well educated entreprenuers and scholars staying in Scotland at a quarter of the price?

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2005/10/2791127/11278

A Socialist Cunt said...

In defence of socialists like myself, I'd like to point out that this isn't our money that it costs. It's other people's money.

What, you thought us socialists actually pay for this shit we come up with? Don't be silly! Everyone else pays - no, we just watch as everything goes disastrously wrong. But us socialists will be alright, with our millions of pounds in the bank, our tax avoidance lawyers, Polly's villas in Tuscany and so forth.

I am Stan said...

Holby,


Very noble idea`s Holby,but its still using other peoples hard earned and its not an either or situation is it..

How about just scrapping free hand outs to cunts who just want to piss it up the wall,inject it or snort it,and letting those who desire and education or training in a skill get on with it,fuck Scotland and it`s nannying.

Electro-Kevin said...

Privatised borstal is what you would end up with.

No bad thing really.

It actually doesn't cost very much for any school to be a center of excellence. Just the right ideology is needed.

Old Holborn said...

EK

not if you catch them at 7 years old

Electro-Kevin said...

Facing forwards in rows, standing when a teacher enters the room, 'Sir, Miss'. Costs nothing to implement - focuses the attention.

The problem is the parents and lack of support, so boarding school would be the only thing that would work.

You haven't said where all those poor dogs with string tied around their necks will end up.

subrosa said...

This would be a winner OH. Mind you, I'm sure you're aware all politicians are myopic and look no further than the next election.

Scroungers Scourge said...

Our big issue guy has cornered a rather sweet spot outside a suburban Sainsburys...He arrives by taxi in the morning (he gets himself dropped off a few hundred yards away out of sight) and is now covered head to foot in designer gear yet the little old ladies still give him their pound coins.
On berating him one day for stealing from pensioners his response was "but I always give them a copy of the magazine....".

I feel a conversation with the manager of Sainsburys coming on to try and end this ridiculous and unjustified gravy train....

Sarf of the River said...

subrosa - exactly.

Mike said...

Regarding the idea of sending children to public schools, there is an even cheaper solution and one that may find favour with your readership, increase the number of state boarding schools.

http://www.sbsa.org.uk/

There are many private boarding schools (often situated in premises owned by LEA's) that are struggling to find students, some indeed are in severe financial straits, would it not be reasonable to suggest that the schools are handed over to the state to use them in the manner you describe?

Regards, Mike.

Broxted said...

It's not my fault that I have had to exist on state benefits for the last 25 years. I'm mentally ill and as such I am unemployable. What am I expected to do... jump off a tall building? At least I am active in my support for banning the retention of innocent peoples DNA by plod and Gay Rights. Ask me anything about the Marper ruling or Gay Issues and I will surprise you with the depth of my knowledge.

John Doe said...

Man! Are you a dumb shit or what? I live in Texas where social security benefits to the unemployed are about £40.00 A MONTH! You also lose all right to ALL welfare assistance if you've claimed help for FIVE YEARS throughout your lifetime.

We have hundreds of thousands of men and women sleeping rough, asylums overflowing with the
mentally ill, gaols full of violent criminals of the most inhuman kind, terrible poverty, disease and early death from poverty related malnutrition and curable disease.

Slash your social security system and this is what you get. The only "freedom" and "liberation" culled are the "freedom" and "liberation" to live short third-world lives in a first or new world country.

As I say, man, are you a dumb shit or what. And I always thought we Americans had the monopoly on red-neck cretins!

Jesus Jones said...

For someone who claims to be a libertarian there seem to be an awful lot of comments "... removed by a blog administrator" on this site! Hmm.

Anonymous said...

"terrible poverty, disease and early death from poverty related malnutrition and curable disease."

Frankly, that sounds just like Scotland. And Texas got it cheaper, at least.

Loki said...

"Now, do you really want 12,000 more pissed up violent ginger heroin addled drunks with chips on their shoulders wandering the streets of London in 10 years time?"

Brilliant.

I canot help but feel that the problem of homelessness would be solved if the Big Issue had pictures of tits in it. Would save me having to explain to the Mrs why I have bought a copy of Nuts.

Kit said...

In the High Street this weekend i noticed that both Big Issue sellers were Romanians who barely spoke any English.

Why is the Big Issue supporting foreign fucking beggars and why are we so stupid as to allow reject, scum, filth into our country?

Anonymous said...

John Doe says.. We have hundreds of thousands of men and women sleeping rough, asylums overflowing with the
mentally ill, gaols full of violent criminals of the most inhuman kind, terrible poverty, disease and early death from poverty related malnutrition and curable disease.


What a great Country you are.. pip pip!

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