Shocked. Blinks. Stops sharpening pitch fork and places it within grabbing distance.
The speed at which this is moving is heartening.The Great Repeal Bill is to be part of the Queens Speech, New National Security Council already established and being chaired by Cameron looking at policy on Afghanistan etc. The new coalition has agreed to end detention of children for immigration purposes, one of the most shameful Labour policies.I am pleased with progress so far...but willing to be critical if they stray off target.
Hooo, fucking, Rahhh!!!!
Next stop remove the details of ALL innocent people from the DNA database, oh and scrap ACPO.....
Looking at the BBC comments about the coalition is quite depressing. A lot of die-hard socialists getting all pissy and tribal. Lots of comments about the Poll Tax, despite the fact that Tesco still charges the unemployed and employed equally for the same tin of beans, so perhaps it wasn't that unfair after all. Several comments asking 'where are the women?' when one has been appointed as Home Secretary. Angry Scottish people who think their inexplicable love of Labour means everyone in England should suffer them.I'm traditionally a Conservative voter, I voted for OH this time around because he deserved it, but to me only some areas of the LibDem manifesto were things I was strongly against - primarily 'green' taxation and nuclear opposition.I think this coalition could be one of the best things to happen to British politics in decades, IF they really do try to work together. The sensibilities of the 'right' coupled with the social conscience of the 'left' - that's something I said we needed to my parents before I was old enough to vote.Good luck to them, we all need it. Tackling the authoritarian state monster Labour created is a really good start, even if this is just a first step.
And were back in the room!,Yeah the Cleggeron has made a good start.WV-scooked....yeah we will be!
and so what begins OH?So they cancel something they couldnt get through - YET, yet back even more severe police state EUSSR measures, like the fact they can spy on your families computer at local busy body level!If you think for one second the Tories are going to buck every police state measure they backed in recent years then you are insane.Or is Dave about to pull us out of the EU that actually makes the laws in this country?You may see some hollow gestures like this and some other meaningless trip over the years made with great fanfare and sucked up by the masses, just as they start to imprison anyone objecting to the EU under new propased xenophobial thought crime laws!will they also be scrapping the other existing thought crimes laws in this country that has helped them undermine the nation and its people? not a bloody chance. This is like backing the saving of the pint while the EU makes 80% of our laws.Keep dreaming OH.
It is a shame in a way, that this promised to be New Labour's very own poll tax. Still thankfully it has been flushed down the toilet, but such a shame that billions have been wasted on this dire project.
Its a promising start!
http://www.conservatives.com/News/News_stories/2010/05/Coalition_Agreement_published.aspxSome interesting stuff, but a few too many weasel words for my liking, eg:> Ending of storage of internet and email records without good reason.Since when have they ever not been able to find "good reason" for whatever they want to do?Still, far better than Broon, Harperson, Bumbandit and the rest of the other lot.
Indyanhat said... Its a promising start!12 May 2010 15:33No it's not, it is a hollow gesture meant to throw you of the totalitarian moving at brakneck plan behind the scenes in the EU, soon to be rubber stamped by dave.In 5 months you will be weeping and wondering how you ever thought it could be anything but Tony MK 2.
Anonymous said... http://www.conservatives.com/News/News_stories/2010/05/Coalition_Agreement_published.aspxSome interesting stuff, but a few too many weasel words for my liking, eg:> Ending of storage of internet and email records without good reason.Since when have they ever not been able to find "good reason" for whatever they want to do?Still, far better than Broon, Harperson, Bumbandit and the rest of the other lot.12 May 2010 15:36You will get hollow gesturs, nothing but hollow gestures keeping you at the front door distracted while the EU boot the back door in with the help of Dave.all the police state plans come from the EU, not Labour, Dave is an EU puppet, he has backed the spying on our people, did you read that HE HAS BACKED IT.They are simply making noises for the party faithfuls like Labours `british jobs for british people` lie.do you think as they deliberately crash this country like they did greece that they will unwind all the control systems they put in place for precisely this reaction to their plans!
Will they amend the smoking ban?
Also noticed they used the words "common purpose" no fewer than 6 times between them in the 10DS garden today. These two will bear very close watching as time goes by.
I said 'its a promising start' but mentioned nothing of the future, I really do not see much change is going to be seen between any party that takes up the mantle of power/corruption.Hollow gesture it may be, but what are you doing about it ANONYMOUS!Oh, yeah nearly forgot, if you take a deep breath and hold your obvious anger in check for a moment or so, you may even write sentences which can actually be read.
Remember Bilderberg blair OH, he had the nation hoodwinked for the first 6 months as did Obumma.The NWO mask will slip, it wont take long, I give it a couple of days. Though you won't get the info from the BBC.
"Indyanhat said... I said 'its a promising start' but mentioned nothing of the future"It's not a promising start at all, as i said they couldn't get it through, so it is nothing more than a propaganda stunt, so stop talking bollocks."I really do not see much change is going to be seen between any party that takes up the mantle of power/corruption."Any party? more bollocks, unless you mean the lib lab cons, then yes!"Hollow gesture it may be, but what are you doing about it ANONYMOUS!"I voted for a party that was not the Lib Lab Cons, and informed people of the reality of voting for the Lib Lab Cons, as it happens!"Oh, yeah nearly forgot, if you take a deep breath and hold your obvious anger in check for a moment or so, you may even write sentences which can actually be read."The irony!
"Indyanhat said... I said 'its a promising start' but mentioned nothing of the future,"But it's not a promising start, as i mentioned they couldnt get this through even if they wanted to, it is propaganda, that is NOT a promising start!"I really do not see much change is going to be seen between any party that takes up the mantle of power/corruption."ANY party? more bollocks, if you mean the lib lab cons then yes."Hollow gesture it may be, but what are you doing about it ANONYMOUS!"I never voted for the lib lab cons for a start and warned people that they were all the same."Oh, yeah nearly forgot, if you take a deep breath and hold your obvious anger in check for a moment or so, you may even write sentences which can actually be read."The irony!note - may be posted twice as first post dissapeared?
Shit! damn delay!
Do get your act together, Anonymous.
At 12.20 last night on Sky a Tory MP Peter Bottomley let something slip. He was coming out of the Lib Dem meeting as he’d been invited as a conservative observer. He was interviewed by Glenn O Glaza the Sky politics journo. He said ‘no one wants the STV system of voting as this will let in the BMP’ thats why they are going for ATV.So they conspired to rig the elections to favour themselfs and keep out other parties such as the BMP, UKIP and the greens!This is fascism and means you still won’t have a voice on the EU, Immigration, illegal wars, etc.conservatives – what do they conserve other than their own carer?Liberal democrats, they are not liberal and they certainly aint democratc.Disgusting corrupt filth!
I hope your right OH , and there is some fresh air to be breathed .my appologies, green report was Harwell not Harling , have dug up flower bed and put some spuds and beans in , probebely not much cheaper than supermarket , but it feels good , some wind on the face , birds tweeting , nature doing its thing (not many bees yet too cold but early pollinations seem ok )even mixing in horse manure seems like ime doing some good ! found some wood and making a planter for salad crops and courgettes .PMQs dilemma sorted harriet will get 6 questions .
At 12.20 last night on Sky a Tory MP Peter Bottomley let something slip. He was coming out of the Lib Dem meeting as he'd been invited as a conservative observer. He was interviewed by Glenn O Glaza the Sky politics journo. He said 'no one wants the STV system of voting as this will let in the BNP' thats why they are going for ATV. They dont care about fairer democracy just tingering with the system but that ensures it keeps out real opposition. I was quite shocked that he specifically mentioned the BNP, as to me it indicated that this subject must have been talked about in the meetings. The ATV system is another form of first past the post, with a very slight tweek! so much for PR huh OH and the promissing start.No smaller parties can break through with the ATV system.If anything it gives power to the lib dems seeing as they are the middle party of the three stooges, but no one else gets a look in or representation of any kind. it continues the polarised `get them out` politics that we have already where the press do their best to manipulate us into the lib lab con pens.In short it is another stitch up.you are stuck with the lib lab con forever and the smaller paties remain as small as ever.I told you they would pull some stunt like this the other day when everyone was discussing PR, i said you would NOT get true PR but a rigged system that will be sold by their media as great!may as well exept your slavery now.
brown's resignation bounced the liberal and conservative parties into this coalition like a pair of tits - one obviously socially larger than the other...although you never know what progressive liberal policy the conservatives are going to come up with next, fox credit or something no doubt...so watch these two titties carefully, they can go up aswell as down, but ultimately the liberal tit is going to get sucked dry by the conservatives and nick "fried egg" clegg will be scoffed for breakfast by cameron, à la david steel.
To compare STV against AV visit this page on the BBC for an interactive guide to the different voting systems.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8644480.stmComparing FPTP against AV there isn't much difference except that it probably will mean that LibDems will always be part of a coallition no matter which party gets the most votes.STV would give the LibDems a larger number of seats and will probably lead to always having a coallition government. Unless the current LibCon relationship breaks down as is expected there might be a chance for STV to work in the future. The problem being that the current UK political system is extremely tribal rather than collaborative.
All three planned the NON PR ATV stitch up months ago to claim it was fairer and how democratic we are - a big lie, it keeps smaller parties out giving them no representation, it is almost no different to the FPTP system, just a slight variation.If you thought the libertarians or UKIP, etc would gain and our voices be heard, forget it - they wont.Politics is not so much tribal nowdays it is more reactionary, in short people vote to get the other party out, not because they like the party they are voting for but because they hate the party they have in power, and the FPTP system reinforces this a true PR system would see this effect eventually eroded as people see they can still be represented if they dont win.and that threatens the establishment and corporate corrupt interests, so they wont be having any of that!
The collective socialist rabble can rant on HYS all they want.They rant about the entitled Tories when it is they who assume they are entitled, usually to public funds and non-jobs.I would like to welcome all the five a day coordinators and yoghurt knitters to the real world.The one that invariably follows a socialist government.
I am not optimistic just because they scrap a shit expensive system when the country happens to be broke.Smoking bans and unequal equality laws,hate crime shit and the criminalisation of motorists for doing fuck all wrong.Bi weekly bin collections and health and safety tripe.Scrap that bollocks and I will get excited.Then again the 'Party' won so it wont be hard to contain myself.
I should add that people did not vote Labour because they love labour they voted Labour because they hate the tories and wanted to keep them out at any cost and voting labour appeared to be the best method to them in the polarised politics of the past, these people may have voted libertarian or green, ukip etc under a PR system where they knew their vote could have some real influence.Now we are stuck with basically the same system, it will mean nothing, no change.The Lib dems just wanted a system that would benefit it, all this crap about people not being fairly represented was bollocks.
patriot acting said... Also noticed they used the words "common purpose" no fewer than 6 times between them in the 10DS garden today. These two will bear very close watching as time goes by.Only saw highlights on Sky but this little phrase jumped out at me at least once. Hard to believe so loaded and politically significant a term is being used to simply convey a sense of generic unity. Very striking. IIRC Obama conspicuously used the CP term in a speech soon after winning in the US. What coded signal are they tryinf to send to other elite-members using the public channels of communication thus?
At present several hundred public bodies have variable access to everyone's electronic communications. That is staggering. It's worse than every item of snail mail you send and receive being opened copied and stored!! If they are really going to do something about that, that would be something.
"That is staggering. It's worse than every item of snail mail you send and receive being opened copied and stored!! If they are really going to do something about that, that would be something."The EU pushed for it Dave backed it. Don't expect anything from Dave, heir to Blair.If anything he will be worse as he has to prove homself to the NWO, but he will spin it just like labour and for the first 6 months the public will buy it, until they do their reserch.
the conservatives will continue the id scheme in secret - paul staines' crew of eavesdroppers and extortionists will probably get the contract for chip-and-pinning us all on the sly. staines and messagespace already have form for blog control.
i reckon that nick was on the rebound when he got hitched to dave.
"the conservatives will continue the id scheme in secret - paul staines' crew of eavesdroppers and extortionists will probably get the contract for chip-and-pinning us all on the sly. staines and messagespace already have form for blog control"Are you the guy Paul threw out of his office because you had a plan to reveal whereby the entire government is related to aliens that landed secretly here in 1969 and replaced wilson?
19:17convened by cameron today, the national sheepdog council will soon be pumping-up the volume and vacuuming-up the cash.
I'd keep the champers on ice for now... There is a history of unpalatable policies being test-run on the Scots (think poll tax).The biggest assault on our liberties is being perpetrated in the guise of child protection.An awful lot of effort has gone into persuading the great and the good that the Scottish system(Getting it right for every child = Gathering information for every citizen)is less intrusive than the English ((Every Child Matters = Every Citizen Monitored).How much more intrusive can it get? This just the start of the information that is to be gathered for every citizen...http://www.forhighlandschildren.org/htm/girfec/gir-publications/phnr-separate-forms-nov08/phnr-v4-contents.pdf...and stored herehttp://www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/Doc/924/0009673.pdfFrame 17 really puts us in our place :(The evidence is growing that the eCare/Girfec model may be destined for further roll-out.http://www.cypnow.co.uk/news/ByDiscipline/Social-Care/990180/England-learn-joint-working-parts-UK-say-social-workers/
19:41ah...you know about that? knew you were cia.
OT, but hey. Green Party Councillor killed in fall from treeGood re ID cards, btw.
The government has changed but the Regime continues.
20:21what a beech
20:21he died in a position he loved, doing what he enjoyed most
Like fresh air.
" Anonymous said...Looking at the BBC comments about the coalition is quite depressing. A lot of die-hard socialists getting all pissy and tribal."Oh it's as funny as fuck... their reign of terror is over, and nobody fucking cares what they think any more.How often did we have to listen to the constant mantras and belittlement from these fascist cowards... now whenever they wheel out that tired "daily mail reader" shit, all we have to say is "fuck off, you lost".It's a nice statement of intent.Of all the permutations that could have been, I still think the Condom coalition is the most realistic way of getting the IngSoc anti-free-speech laws and police state architecture dismantled.Although I wretch at the thought of a LibDem government, the one thing I will say for them is that they do like a referendum... on just about anything. If we start getting into the habit of them, then there's a realistic chance of telling the EU to fuck off. I also think the announcement of Theresa May as both Home Sec and Minister of Harman's Neuroses is a signal that maybe the "Equalities" Quango could be vapourised... that's the real test... how many QUANGOS will they shut down, and will they shut down the particularly invidious ones, such as "Common Purpose".The rest is hogwash, just Mervyn King telling them what to do...
I was driving around today listening to LBC and all those fucking threatening adverts have gone. No more "We know where you live and we'll come round and crush your car" bollocks. Slight good sign along with the identity card thing.What they need to do pronto is sack the poisonous little cunts who were implementing the scheme so they can no longer contaminate the system with their presence.
Fidothedog said... It is a shame in a way, that this promised to be New Labour's very own poll tax. Not a chance, not with the "nothing to hide, nothing to fear" brigade approving ID cards and all they stood for. And MSM loved them too, mostly.
"and will they shut down the particularly invidious ones, such as "Common Purpose"."Judging by the coded use of this phrase at the gardenparty press conference I'd guess no
I shall just leave this here (I've not seen anyone else blog it yet):http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/may/12/lib-dem-tory-deal-coalitionThe section (10) on civil liberties seeks to undo the majority of the last 13 years. We can but hope.
Quite an amazing result getting the cabinet done in one day , already dept of education properly named again , runways sorted , and budget by july 1st , on day where 2.5mn are officially unemployed and 8 mn ecnomically inactive .Zaperto bites the bullit in spain.A new kind of politics ? seems to not quite encompass the legacy of the ruin and I just about kicked the telly to hear the supporting spin opps from ex Lab minsiters making soothing noises when they have left such a mess .Polly claims the tories will be rough with the libs , again forgetting it was her wonk Labour government that will change the wealth stats for a decade.i think we should have some sort of numerical counter for PMQs for all the times Labour refuse to acknowledge the pain is due to there ecnomic policies , so with seats safe for the time being Labour can only spit out backside covering durge , worth every penny of there £64k salary , thanks Labour.civil unrest does not decrease the debt and useually leads to devaluaing a currency , so thanks unite for an unecessary strike , hope they thank you and Charlie for it costing more at petrol pump to do weekly shop change your slogan "we can ruin more together" !.heres a suggestion , ensure all school uniforms are woven in the UK , preferably one garment maker in each county , use wool blends (unless allergic or summer materials) to help farmers and reduce price of meat as , fleeces have been made worthless under labour , just ensure costs work for families, why not send shop to schools so that you can fit them out and cut supermarkets out who source from sweatshops .introduce a 75% Chiles tax , or a wrossy tax .
"Quite an amazing result getting the cabinet done in one day"Interchangerble puppets, who will do nothing on their own accord, ask Flint, they are just window dressing and spokespersons, they actually do bugger all.give it one month and the Lib Dems will fall out with each other over the pathetic and pointless pickings.and as for the Lib dems Bullshit PR claims, well they just blew their trump card that brought in members and votes, it was just the case they wanted more power for themselfs and never actually believed in PR, however the party members did, they have now thrown away their core support.soon the LIB Lab cons will be unelectable and the polarisation of politics will collapse, we will be back to low turnouts and serious discontent.Give it one year and everyone will hate dave as much as they hated brown and tony and thatcher.They are all in the international straitjacket club and have no room to manouver while they are trying to destroy democracy from within with even more unfair voting systems.So what happens when the Lib dems are exposed as they are with PR, and they are no longer the protest vote, the collapse of the lib dems protest vote and the collapse of their base.The Lib dems will be finished for good after this and about time to, they offer no alternative.and what happens when the Tories show the masses they are no different and that we are in a state of one party politics 3 choices - all the same, the media also get discredited and their propaganda dies.Their vote will go strait to UKIP. Then things get interesting!
Guido is state - no LIzards, no tin foil, the man is a state op.a state propaganda agent with dodgey connections and a track record for propaganda.His censorship makes China look libertarian, his propaganda makes the BBC look fair and balenced.It's not just what he posts that gives the game away, but what he deletes, a plain as day state op.If I were the elites Guido is exactly what I would set up and run it exactly as guido does hiding exactly what guido does.If he isnt state then he is doing a damn good job for them.From wiki"was lobbying at the Council of Europe and at Parliament; I was over in Washington, in Jo'burg, in South America. It was 'let's get guns for the Contras', that sort of stuff. I was enjoying it immensely, I got to go with these guys and fire off AK-47s. I always like to go where the action is, and for that period in the Reagan/Thatcher days, it was great fun, it was all expenses paid and I got to see the world. I used to think that World Briefing was a bit funny. The only scary thing about those publications was the mailing list – people like George Bush – and the fact that Hart would talk to the head of British Intelligence for an hour. I used to think it was us having a laugh, putting some loony right-wing sell in"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Staines
" Guido is state said...Guido is state - no LIzards, no tin foil, the man is a state op.a state propaganda agent with dodgey connections and a track record for propaganda.His censorship makes China look libertarian, his propaganda makes the BBC look fair and balenced.It's not just what he posts that gives the game away, but what he deletes, a plain as day state op.If I were the elites Guido is exactly what I would set up and run it exactly as guido does hiding exactly what guido does."So basically, you're an unemployed megalomaniac lunatic who would love to have the power "the Illuminati" have, and attention Guido has (mostly the latter, by the sounds of it).Perhaps if you set up your own site and pumped out something of interest you might win that argument.Seems to me it's far less shadowy and complicated than you might imagine.All political bloggers are fantasists who dream of running the country, or at least becoming an MP.Whether it's Anthony Wells slithering his laboury way up into Soviet Yugov; or Guido, fauning is way into MPs and journopornographers blackberry address books... they all have one thing in common, they want a taste of the smack....seems to me that you're just jealous of the attention he gets, and lack the competence to do it yourself - you're inadequate, and you know; whereas I'm just a cunt.
Gove just mentioned "common purpose" again. Could be a coincidence of course - after all, it's a perfectly normal expression, but it does seem like one of those episodes of a cop show when a kidnap victim wants to get a secret message to someone on the phone by saying, "Everything is fine. I'm at work", when the person listening knows they don't have a job.
Just ye waitWolves in sheep clothing all going to plan nothing will change
18:09What coded signal are they tryinf to send to other elite-members using the public channels of communication thus?so what's all that about? is "common purpose" some sort of doggers' code or something?
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