They are scumbags, no doubt.
I knew this was going to happen.
OH, do you suspect any sinister motives?
Frankly, not surprised.
I commented on this a few days ago. Paypal are BASTARDS, and if you remember my comments I said "I was very suprised you dealt with them".They are one fucking greedy piece of Capitalist shit, suspending accounts, draining funds, accessing peoples accounts all without any proper mandate / authorization. Nor do they come under any UK banking regs (or so I am led to believe).Google PAYPAL HELL ~ 1000s complaints.
I have had exactly the same problems on a smaller scale. They act with impunity, knowing it would take an age to get them to court.I closed my account over the weekend, after they finally released funds. They are a set of cunts.
This is a regular thing with Paypal, they are not bound by the same regulations as a bank and have been freezing accounts since they began... I could regale you with stories but it's probably easier to check out paypalsucks.com to get some idea. Their FAQ page also has some phone numbers for Paypal, but they aren't very keen on dealing with real people.I don't have any affiliation with that website, it's just one I found after similar problems.
Paypal = MAGGOTS!Try phoning their UK offices (if you are lucky enough to find a correct number). And if you get through, you'll be speaking with a retarded Yank, who has no idea or whereabouts of anyone who can assist you with your enquiry.If things get really confusing for them, they then hangup.AVOID AVOID AVOID.WV: "testi"
If you have a verified account you don't have that problem.I have one.What's this "proof of tax exempt" bollocks? Are they the police now?IIRC PayPal are now owned by eBay. I am banned from eBay for life, just for being a cunt.wv:fact
Leave the money in and use it to buy him a nice holiday when he finally gets out.
The problems have arisen because of the sheer amount of money coming into the account. I had that problem when we raised money before and that was a sudden influx of several hundred pounds, not several thousand.I am sure it will be resolved once the account is verified but it may take time.
Is the guy out of prison yet? That's all that's really important!
Uncle marvo @10.34If you have a verified account you don't have that problem.Sorry buts that BOLLOCKS... check out the sites listed above. You'll see that 1000s have been ripped off by PP, so it really does,nt matter if you are "verified" or not.You have just been one of the lucky ones not to be ripped off....WV:trouble
Has someone put a spanner in the works?
Just a thought: why not contract out the payment of MPs' and peers' salaries to Paypal? No cost to the public for mindless bureaucracy and much anguish to the 650 and 800.
everybody knows: PayPal sucks:http://www.paypalsucks.com/Now you have tasted it first hand OH.
A great deal of PayPal revenue comes from the overnight money markets, OH. They sit on deposits for ridiculous amounts of time claiming they haven't cleared yet, whilst at the same time they're being lent out at interest elsewhere. Typical fucking Jews. For shame!
There's a consumer website calledwww.blagger.comwhere you can slag off rogue traders/conmen.There are quite a few adverse comments re paypal.Lists their address in Richmond and a phone No 0870 7307191Urban11
I gave up trying to make a donation by PayPal. I know I've got an account - but the software kept frigging me around. So as yet I haven't managed to make a donation......
Given that all but one of the entries in that screen-shot indicate that PayPal are waiting for an action on your part, it does seem a little disingenuous of you to slag them off, however deservedly, without any justification.
Used them once, never again!Any site with paypal only and I pass it by.
Paypal have this annoying habit of just adding random things to the list.I use a commercial proxy service and this makes them think my account has been compromised by my lot logging in via a UK ISP.A few weeks ago they decided to investigate three transactions & gave me a refund for two of them, despite my having had the goods and them never actually asking me whether they were my transactions in the first place.They are pretty useless and if they carry on like they have been doing, I'll dump them.
Anon @12.45Used them once, never again!Any site with paypal only and I pass it by.Totally Agree. I recently came across a so-called proefessional film editing company, who would only take Paypal. I phoned its London office and was told Paypal or nothing!Needless to say I went elsewhere.What type of Company deals with Paypal? For that matter what type of individual?
The kind that isn't aware of many alternatives?
They are a nightmare, forget the ijits in the UK and just phone there number in the States
This is exactly why I did not want to open a Paypal account to make the donation. I had an account before, and closing it was neither simple, easy, nor quick.
This looks like a cock-up!!!!
Paypal may be another Silicon Valley company out of the Northern California high-tech area, which is vigorously anti-smoking. If they are owned by eBay, eBay certainly is, banning selling of e-cigs, which are a safer alternative, yet banned because they are of anti-smoking persuasion too. So once anti-smoking pops into someone's head and they manage divisions within a company, then they make their policy to follow-suit to the anti-smoking agenda. So calling Paypal and saying this was non-profit money raised by donation to release a political prisoner held in a case having anything to do with the word, "t-o-b-a-c-c-o", will in fact have them hold the money up even longer - as that's how the forces of anti-tobacco work. It's through propaganda that leads to a narrow-mindedness and I'd expect Paypal to be victim to this mental disease as eBay already has fallen.
Shame nobody offered to pay the fine pending reimbursement from the paypal account once the funds were released....
i tried to make a Nick Hogan donation si i opened a paypal account. i had to "verify" my bank account and it took days before my £10 was in, by which time the target was reached. Uncle Marvo, e-bay are bastards. i complained about their ridiculous "no knives" policy - i bought and occasionally sold interesting (to me, anyway) pen-knives. since you need to be over 18 to have an account, and knives are legal anyway, it seemed a bit draconian, and i told them so. response - if you dont like it, we'll close your account.
I'm keeping out of this Nick's cell mate!
You can read here about how paypaldealt with Cryptomehttp://cryptome.org/0001/cryptome-sar.htm
So, what are the alternatives to Paypal?Jay
PayPal don't like Freemen, OH.Yes, what are the alternatives to PayPal short of buying into the "merchant services" of Visa or MasturCard?
In Golden Virginia's link are the following comments:"I use ProPay and recommend them. Also, Google has a great payment processing system which you can access with your Google account."
richard - 8 March 2010 15:19So you like to trade in weapons on the Internet do you?What? Just like Andrew Gatward does, you know, that far left fuckwit you keep claiming NOT to be?Every time you open your mouth your own God damned stupidity give you away - How many coincidences do you think we'll believe, until you finally get the message and fuck off back to Socialist unity where you so self righteously belong?TWAT!
@richard - 8 March 2010 15:19My Paypal donation went through in a matter of seconds, Andrew, perhaps your unhealthy obsession with Nazi memorabilia has had a lot to do with your problem and, indeed, the website, (Dazed And Confused's above link), dispensed with your services once they were aware of your background.Why don't you just fuck off back to UAF heaven, Twatward!(Lower case "i", yet again, I see - moron!).
richard: - Ha.Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha....Since you were initially "outed" in October time last Year, why haven't you posted anything on your "Libertarian Blog?" As before that time you were fucking prolific..All that's been added since October, are several sad attempts in the comments sections of posts, to make us believe that your not Gatward.Yeah right......
Good one, Dazed, nothing over there but tumbleweed!Here's another large piece of information about "richard", folks.http://wwwbarkingspider.blogspot.com/2010/01/andrew-gatward-nutcase.html
And another one...Andrew Gatward - UAF Troll +++Update
Richard, are the knives for self harming purposes?Makes a change from self abusing suppose...
And just for good measure - this is where I first posted an article about him.......having originally outed him at Grumpy's...(follow the "this" link to GOT's place)Andrew Gatward/Doubting Richard - UAF Troll and Total Arsehole
so basically...in full awareness that paypal were cynical scammers, old ho started this whole campaign purely to advertize his paypal naypal message whilst cleverly cocking-a-snook at anti-immigrant ukip, who have been keeping their man banged-up as some form of publicity stunt - realizing this, the nigerian mafia jumped into the breach with gusto and began boosting the nick hogan release-fund with cash which was probably transferred directly out of oblivious ukip members bank accounts. old ho has therefore succeeded in making cunts of ukip, paypal and himself - and has accomplished his mission with flying colours. is paypal a nigerian outfit?
You just inspired me to close my account, so I did.Never liked PayPal.Cunts.
21:25blimey, this story is getting so silly it could get into the tabloids soon.
MaxGot it in one. Well done.As for making a cunt of myself, frankly I'm not bothered.
21:37As for making a cunt of myself, frankly I'm not bothered.i was never in any doubt about that
To paraphrase the great philosopher Saint Otter of Delta Tau Chi: You fucked up - you trusted them.They're great for sending $$$, but if you use them to receive it, it's only a matter of when they nob you, not if. Good work on jumping through their hoops though.
21:37frankly speaking, on the eve of nick hogan's imprisonment, ukip could have trawled the pubs in central manchester with a couple of buckets and raised enough dough to release the poor cunt the very next day - causing maximum embarrassment to the government.
23:25exactly dear, but ukip kept him cooped-up like a wog in a detention centre.
Vote OMRLP, the only HONEST party in the land:http://www.omrlp.com/
Don't let the bastards grind you down OH, do keep up the good work.
"UPDATE: All issues resolved.....Read more... " What youve got someone to stump up the cash(your own anonymous benefactor) to save yourself (even more) embarrassment?
keep up the good work Spidey, glad to know you can spot a bad'un. you have a gift, a sure touch. kind of an instinct, is it? doesn't make you look a tit, does it? Rab, that was a very cutting remark.
Ah Andrew - sorry richard,As transparent as ever I see, returning to protest when a thread is history. As usual you failed to explain last time I asked, why on you tube under your guise as richardblogger you find it min numbingly necessary have a pop at everybody, including Yankee Libertarian Glen Beck, whilst always coming down on the side of New Labour scum, and where-ever you may comment.And your answer will be?Ah yes.....Denial, Hot air and bluster......As fucking usual when yet another of your lies is exposed.
UKIP can't win. If they'd got involved and helped Hogan, they'd be cunts. Because they didn't then they're still cunts.
Has the money been paid yet for Nick Hogan's release?
I knew you'd be back when you thought no-one was watching, Andrew/richard - you are so predictable.What brought you back to these comments after you had already left your miserable excuse for your non-donation? Always watching and turning up like a bad smell, eh?Dazed has also nailed you dead-to-rights again - and I think you'll find that Rab's remark was meant to be cutting!Nobody believes you - but you just can't stop yourself trying it on.
So it would seem that poor Mr Hogan has to spend yet another night at her majesty's pleasure due to Paypal-am I right OH?
What's a nickname for Richard?Ah, that's right. DICK.
HAS NICK BEEN RELEASED YET?
never deal with paypal, says our noble host. quite, says me, and give the reason why. Holby's good intentions are wrecked by paypal's crapness, but mine, wrecked by the same company, is just a "feeble excuse". eh??? i support Holby's campaign, and admire his views. i tried to donate in time but couldn't. yep, the two students of Oscar Wilde (Richard = Dick, LOL!) are wrong again. how about a song, Spidey - you're getting to be really that big of a joke - what about "foosteps-on the dancefloor- remind me Gatward of you!" but maybe you aren't old enough to remember that one. Dazed and Confused, re: my views on libertarianism and the health service, (thanks for the top tip, i didn't know i HAD a youtube account!) if you want to waste 5 minutes, compare richardblogger's views with mine. note how me and the socialist end up in total agreement. it's almost conceivable that these viewpoints are of two different "richards" unless, that is, you prefer baseless assertion, the modus operandi of fuckwits. in which case, feel free to side with my protagonist on http://www.scriboergosum.org.uk/revamp/2229
Has Nick been released? Is he still inside? Is he dead? Is he been buggered to fuck?WOTS GOING ON? Or perhaps now we've given ~ it dont really matter anymore.
I hear it is all in hand and I trust that. I'm sure we'll hear news soon. The latest is that Paypal is a cunt - and that is still the case which means there is no new update yet!
I have heard that Nick is back home. I asume that you managed to get paypal to release all the money.
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