Monday, 15 March 2010

My Council Tax


My Council Tax demand for 2010 has just dropped on the mat. £1769.90. Payable in advance.

Now, as regular readers will know, I am a Freeman on the Land. Which means I don't pay demands. I pay for contracted services I am happy to receive. So let's break down my bill and see what I agree to pay as a Libertarian.

Essex County Council £1328.25
Essex Police £161.48
Essex Fire Authority £81.18
Braintree District Council £198.99

Fire Service? Yup, happy to pay that amount. I'll sign up for that
Police? No one else offers the same service for that price. I'll sign

Now it gets to be fun.

Essex County Council. Total Revenue £2.1 Billion, of which I am forced to pay £1328.25

How do they spend that money?

Well, we have:

Education £994M (47%)
Putting the customer first £55M (2%)
Improving Transport £106M (5%)
Supporting Vulnerable People £696M (33%)
Waste and Recycling £52M (2%)
Making Communities Safer £49M (2%)
Operating costs £228M (11%)

Braintree District Council. Budget £19.4M. My contribution?£198.99

Waste and Recycling 22% (£4.3M)
Street Cleaning 6% (£1.2M)
Leisure & Culture 25% (£4.9M)
Safety 11% (£2.2M)
Planning 5% (£1.2M)
Housing Benefits 8% (£1.6M)
Parking 4% (£o.8M)
Democracy 9% (£1.7M)
Parish Grants 4% (£0.7M)
Other 4% (£0.8M)

Dear Town Clerk (no, you are not a CEO)

I refer to your offer to provide services to me for £1769.90. After a quick look through, I'm happy to pay for education, the Police, the Fire service. I'll look after the rest thanks.

Could you please recalculate my bill to reflect this? I reckon it should be around £624 for education, plus the old Bill and the Fireman rounds it up to £866.82. Not £1769.90. As you are aware, unsolicited demands against unwanted services are unlawful. The plumber's not allowed to do it, nor is Sky TV. Send me the contract (as required by law) and I'll sign it.

Cheers

Old Holborn

(I'll publish the response here. what fun)

73 comments:

Kingbingo said...

All good stuff.

But your going to go to jail. Sooner or later.

Uncle Marvo said...

Not before me, he isn't.

What *is* council tax, anyway?

Anonymous said...

Bravo sir, this is a good approach. I wish I had the courage to opt out of the complete cack that our councils spend our hard earned on.

9% of the money on democracy! Is this councillors expense accounts?

Womble On Tour said...

Yeah, OK....good luck with that !

Marchamont Needham said...

I believe the actual cost of policing is around £800 per household.

Outrageously high and well due for a cut.

Ras Clart Haslam said...

£161 for plod? You've been conned mate.The armed and uniformed wing of the BNP are fucking useless. Up the UAF tally ho.

Anonymous said...

This Freeman-on-the-land stuff all sounds great in principle.

The problem is, the state will just throw you in jail anyway. They are pirates and they can't be reasoned with.

If 1 million people refuse to pay their council tax. however......that is a different story

Kudos to you for trying it on though O.H.

Guthrum said...

Just got mine from North Somerset

The same people who lost £3m in Iceland !

Anonymous said...

Good luck OH. Do let's know the result - I might be tempted to follow your example.

Dave said...

Go for it OH. The computer will blow a fuse as it's not on the list of predicted responses.
One thing-
you forgot to end the letter
"you remain my humble servant"

Matt Davies said...

Maybe we should start a defence fund right now, or at least get promise notes in the event that the State decide to try and put you in prison for this.

I will happily pledge.

Anonymous said...

Well done, OH. Like a lot of people I will be watching this very carefully.

Aftrer Watt The real Ron Broxted said...

I have never paid a penny in rates anyway, and certainly would never pay towards the BNP supporting police. I don't have to declare myself a Freeman. I give some of my state benefits to the Masjid to support my fellow Muslim's.

RantinRab said...

Sock it to 'em OH!

Fuck the rates said...

McEgan you nonce, what's with the Ras Clart handle? You don't fool anyone you mong.

Because we're young said...

I think you're nuts, but I'm also envious of your cojones.

One question. Did you privately educate your kids? Otherwise, should you not reimburse the state somehow? I know you paid taxes at the time, but you can't have it both ways no?

To be clear, I am no apologist for the State, I think you are spot on doing this. However, I do believe in fairness, and I think if this freeman thing will work, it must be absolutely whiter than white. I would like to be sure you're not just tax dodging now you don't need some bits anymore...

Dicksucker Gobshite Haslam, R.N. said...

Full apologies for any Ras Clartism.

Uncle Marvo said...

Should you reimburse the state somehow?

When you pay tax, you are in fact endorsing what the government does - "in your name"

http://www.sovereignlife.com/essays/25-10-04.html

watching said...

Politely ask the Council for an Invoice which you will gladly pay once it arrives.

In fact if everybody, troll, whinger or supporter, who reads OH's blog simply wrote and asked the councils (corporations) for an invoice before paying the system would be exposed for what it is.

Writing letters and e-mails is so bloody hard though so I won't hold my breath!

Dicksucker Gobshite Haslam, R.N. said...

Ronnie Size still King of The Indy! Whilst poor troll gay repressed failed special constables are reduced to spalshing in their own faeces in Downham Market. O tempora, o mores!

Anonymous said...

What the hell is "Putting the Customer first" and why does it cost the same as "Waste and recycling?" I know Council-Man, I'll do without that cos it's bollocks. And you can send your numpties round to empty my one, lone bin every week instead of every fortnight. How's that sound?

Dicksucker Gobshite Haslam, R.N. said...

Put the customer first.OOOH Matron I like nothing better than dressing up in Uncle Dereks WW2 uniform and having a large Angolan bugger me silly. All that lovely black cock. make love not war you naughty skinhead BNP tossers.

Stop Internet Grooming said...

I remember K McEgan saying elsewhere he had a girlfriend once. If that poor child, probably now in her early teens is reading this I would advise you to get in touch with the police.

D.G.Haslam said...

Yes Internet that is a good idea. Aren't the BNP full of bacons? Let 'em come. My address is Downham Market, Norfolk, PE38, 9QT. Fucking load of Bomba Clats.

bofl said...

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/817476-hull-council-spends-200-000-on-toads

income tax/council tax. etc.......

it is all theft.......

then some idiot like brown or darling etc piss it up the wall(after shovelling loads of it in their own satchels).....

wake up everyone.......

your money is used to massage their egos........no other reason.they dont give a stuff about anyone else........it is all an act!

ps watched brown on beeb yesterday....what a knob....

so everyone is going to work in 'digital' industries?
what exactly is that gordon?

pedant said...

kingbingo-while holby is in the nick you should take some English lessons!

then you kan shart yer mowf awf!

Anonymous said...

"£161 for plod?"
Would that be the same plod who drove passed the nextdoor bank been robbed any drove 10 miles to the next county to a bank not been robbed.
I think they own me £161.

sixtypoundsaweekcleaner said...

These bills do annoy me. It's not as if we have any say in how much they charge or what they spend it on. Nor do we have the right to demand value for money in any of the services they give us, or the wages they give themselves. They treat us like a load of blooming serfs, which in this day and age is disgusting and outmoded.

JOSEPH KABILA SUCKS BIG WHITE ELEPHANT DICK said...

7 million dead in the continuing african-world-war

western protectionism leaves africans scrapping over the handful of products which the united states and european union permit to be imported without the imposition of high tariffs eg. coltan for mobile-phones and computers - yet cameron and obama, the slay-as-you-go oyibo protectionist cunts are glad to do business with the corrupt rwandan-born imposter-president of the democratic republic of congo, joseph kabila, who has allowed rwandan troops to rape and murder his own civilians during the ongoing military campaign to pillage valuable minerals from the eastern congo. for cameron and obama it's 'slave-coltan good, cheap staple-food bad', and don't anyone dare come to me with kenyan-export flowers grown on the white-man's farms - they will never be laid on the unmarked genocide-graves of the congolese millions. the blood crocus.

sandy said...

You forgot about what percentage of you Tax goes to pay the pensions of Council Employees.
Also, do you not have a Development Agency ? Such as SEDA ? The unelected quangos who receive money from your Council Tax. Ask your Council how much that is.
I dont pay Council Tax BTW. I opted out.

Kiddie fiddlers out said...

D.G Haslam is that you McEgan After Watt Ron Broxted? It wouldn't surprise me as Norfolk is well known for inbreeding. Remind me to send you a large turd through the post.

Dame Davina Pancake said...

Fucking Ace Holby - go for it and I look forward to the reply!

Davina x

I am Stan said...

Other 4% (£0.8M)

What is other?.Thats 800.000 smackers!

Uncle Marvo said...

To sixtypoundsaweekcleaner:

"Nor do we have the right to demand value for money in any of the services they give us, or the wages they give themselves"

That statement is so wrong there's no path to right from it.

You have the RIGHT. You just haven't exercised it.

Free your mind.

418 said...

"Supporting Vulnerable People £696M (33%)"

That would be the Paul Shite-Hanningfield defence fund, then: tell the Magistrate.

I have just got a summons for council tax; the cunts didn't even bother to send me a bill first. As a revenue raising exercise it's not a bad ploy: the council charges 75 beer tokens for the summons, on top of what is allegedly due in council tax. I am going to apply to have the summons dismissed with costs: if I am successful the council will be sending a cheque to me, not the other way round.

Uncle Marvo said...

There is a rule. The rule is that "posting shall be regarded as proof of receipt".

I know. It sounds ridiculous.

It only applies to them. "Proof of posting will not be accepted as proof of delivery" applies to you.

The good news is that you can withdraw your loyalty now without fear of feeling guilty.

I did.

418 said...

The council is on autopilot most of the time and when I call their rep to the witness stand he or she, unfortunate person, will be unable to swear that a bill was posted to me. "It's the computa." No bill, no cheque: simplicity itself. Unfortunately for OH, he has very publicly admitted to receiving the bill: shades of the prison house begin to close ... still, not to worry, we'll spring him a la Hogan, assuming PayPal don't block the account after all the aggro he gave them.

manfromthefuture said...

why do they want all the money in advance?

Anonymous said...

They want it n advance because if they wanted it in arrears and you popped your clogs they'd have no way of getting it off you?

Go for it OH...

PS: Ashok Kumar ha slid down the slippery path to hell. Apparently it was Sudden Accidental Death. That could meanmany things.... Maybe he dropped his taxpayer funded Dyson into the bath.... We can only wish huh?

Cold said...

When we look at the cuts that need to be made, let's look at the NHS.

I was a service user of my local CMHT this morning and the place - whilst looking gorgeous - was overmanned and overdecorated, overprovided for and ...

Almost makes me want to be a non-exec in the NHS.

JOSEPH KABILA SUCKS BIG WHITE ELEPHANT DICK said...

7 million dead in the continuing african-world-war

western protectionism leaves africans scrapping over the handful of products which the united states and european union permit to be imported without the imposition of high tariffs eg. coltan for mobile-phones and computers - yet cameron and obama, the slay-as-you-go oyibo protectionist cunts are glad to do business with the corrupt rwandan-born imposter-president of the democratic republic of congo, joseph kabila, who has allowed rwandan troops to rape and murder his own civilians during the ongoing military campaign to pillage valuable minerals from the eastern congo. for cameron and obama it's 'slave-coltan good, cheap staple-food bad', and don't anyone dare come to me with kenyan-export flowers grown on the white-man's farms - they will never be laid on the unmarked genocide-graves of the congolese millions. the blood crocus.

JOSEPH KABILA SUCKS BIG WHITE ELEPHANT DICK said...

7 million dead in the continuing african-world-war

western protectionism leaves africans scrapping over the handful of products which the united states and european union permit to be imported without the imposition of high tariffs eg. coltan for mobile-phones and computers - yet cameron and obama, the slay-as-you-go oyibo protectionist cunts are glad to do business with the corrupt rwandan-born imposter-president of the democratic republic of congo, joseph kabila, who has allowed rwandan troops to rape and murder his own civilians during the ongoing military campaign to pillage valuable minerals from the eastern congo. for cameron and obama it's 'slave-coltan good, cheap staple-food bad', and don't anyone dare come to me with kenyan-export flowers grown on the white-man's farms - they will never be laid on the unmarked genocide-graves of the congolese millions. the blood crocus.

JOSEPH KABILA SUCKS BIG WHITE ELEPHANT DICK said...

7 million dead in the continuing african-world-war

western protectionism leaves africans scrapping over the handful of products which the united states and european union permit to be imported without the imposition of high tariffs eg. coltan for mobile-phones and computers - yet cameron and obama, the slay-as-you-go oyibo protectionist cunts are glad to do business with the corrupt rwandan-born imposter-president of the democratic republic of congo, joseph kabila, who has allowed rwandan troops to rape and murder his own civilians during the ongoing military campaign to pillage valuable minerals from the eastern congo. for cameron and obama it's 'slave-coltan good, cheap staple-food bad', and don't anyone dare come to me with kenyan-export flowers grown on the white-man's farms - they will never be laid on the unmarked genocide-graves of the congolese millions. the blood crocus.

Catflap said...

Brave man OH, but I will not cheer you on to possible incarceration from the comfort of my laptop.
Through circumstance and not choice I'm now part of the underclass with fuck all to lose.
I don't stop paying anything,I just claim more.As an example.
Utility companies give a discount of 10% to chumps like me on less than 15k a year.
That more or less covers the combined 13% Carbon Bollocks tax they charge everyone else.
The fact I think AGW is shit,well that's a bonus.

banned said...

Some while back I had a dispute with my Council over Council Tax and informed them that I would not pay them a penny until they recognised their error at which point I would pay them, in full, the amount they were due. I further informed them that the money that I did owe them was safe in an account especially set up to hold their monies.

I ignored their subsequent begging letters and demands to attend their foul offices since they never allow you speak to anyone who has the power to change the decisions that have already been made.

To cut a long story short, I made them take me to the Magistrates Court, a total of six times, and won, without representation, including at one point a demand from the Mag. for the Chief Finance Officer to have a private meeting with me and the third party involved which he did not like one fucking bit.

At the end of the fifth hearing we were all agreed and I informed Her Worship that I had paid the reduced demand the previous day since the outcome was so obvious.

Imagine her surprise to see us all back in Court some weeks later over the same thing.
She asked how come we were all here again? I showed her the receipt and said "Dunno, ask them".

She offered me costs but I could not be arsed.

Fausty said...

If we all refuse to pay, for their services, we could send them into bankruptcy. Cool!

The b@stards would probably then pass a law to extract it from our bank accounts, like PAYE. Assuming we use 'em.

On the other hand, they might just let the bailiffs bust into your home and take what they like.

Banned said...

"Utter rubbish xxxxxx. As the only MyT blogger to have been a regular rug kisser at the Belfast masjid I can assure there are no plotters, hardliners or terrorists. Mostly taxi drivers and doctors praying."
Shanghai aka K McEgan-Ron Broxted-After Watt Rear Admiral Haslem.

Yeah right arsehole, I seem to remember it was Muslim doctors that tried to bomb Glasgow airport as well as night club in London.
What a cunt.

Rob Spierre said...

much of the council tax demanded is to pay for THEIR pensions and for the losses THEY made in 'investing' in Iceland.

this is grossly unfair. why should the rest of us have to make up the pensions of one group of people?

surely there must be some law that can be called upon?

and why haven't any of the useless cocks that lost money in iceland been fired? the junk bond and iceland situation were highlighted in the media (don't these hoons read the FT) for a YEAR before the shit hit the fan?

private prosecutions come to mind.

418 said...

@ Banned

You should have asked for costs. I got ₤840 from the police who lost their case against me at Marylebone Mags. Unfortunately the cheque came out of central funds which seems to be something to do with the MoJo and it does not appear to have been charged back to the Filth. Despite the desperate plight of the Exchequer, the cheque did not bounce.

Anonymous said...

The case you're looking for (even if you don't realise it) is DPP for Northern Ireland v. Bainbridge.

Indy said...

Your hierarchy of paymemt seems a bit odd to me.

Personally if I was picking and choosing what council services I would pay for, waste and recycling would be a tad more important than education.

It's not actually going to endanger you if local children can't read or write. Uncollected and untreated waste however can lead to all kinds of nasties.

Old Holborn said...

I have six kids

Anonymous said...

Private police - £3.50 a week

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/politics_show/regions/north_east_and_cumbria/8564724.stm

Joe Public said...

So we're neighbours - only your house must be bigger!

Notice how "waste" & "recycling" are lumped together? The former's bad; the latter is 'good'.

Field Marshall Watkins said...

Fausty:

"On the other hand, they might just let the bailiffs bust into your home and take what they like."

They're welcome to try, if they want a fucking bat across their face.

Jess The Dog said...

I'm in partial agreement on the Freeman thing.

On the one hand, some years ago, we reined in the powers of the absolute monarchy through civil war and revolution, resulting in a Bill of Rights and a National Debt. Since then we also realised we should stop sending children down mines and up chimneys and should put them in schools instead (possibly even to good effect), and that the infirm and ill should be afforded treatment for their ailments and afflictions. And so on. This all needs money.

But, on the other hand, we are squeezed for every penny by a State which subsidises generations of NEETs, which has officers for every box that needs to be ticked and double-ticked, and an array of uniforms to fine us for every transgression while turning a blind eye to more difficult targets following the principle of 'low hanging fruit'.

So carry on with the Freeman crusade! I cannot support the principle with an absolute philosophical conviction, but a stand needs to be made against unaccountable governance. Incidentally, only a quarter of local government expenditure comes from council tax....rest is from central government...ie ourselves as well.

banned said...

@418 "You should have asked for costs. I got ₤840 from the police".
Good for you. As I said, I did not require legal representation so my costs were nominal. I had had my fun from the situation and did not feel like revealing the ins and ours of my work and family life to the Court in order to establish any real or imaginary basis for loss of earnings.

Not Raymond Ist said...

If the artwork on my council's threatogram is anything to go by, the money is exclusively for the benefit of the disabled, the elderly, single mothers, and ... blacks.

Rogerborg said...

@OH: I have six kids

What makes you think they're yours?

I quite like clean streets.

Why do they spend money on parking? I'd have thought it'd be an earner. FOI ahoy!

Hung Parliament? Hang 'em all said...

Don't pay for the education bit - the Council already get all of that paid by the national government. A bit fraudulent for them to ask you to pay for it as well.

Hung Parliament? Hang 'em all. said...

But the bin emptying looks like quite good value; £43.78 per year - you'd pay more than that in petrol to burn the stuff.

Anonymous said...

By gaps in the system i avoid paying it altogether. Just need to make sure i keep off certain databases

Uncle Marvo said...

I'll publish the response here, he cried ...

Anonymous said...

This was back in March! Surely they have answered you by now? Come on, lets see it please......

Anonymous said...

This was back in March! Surely they have answered you by now?....If so, come on lets see it please.....

Anonymous said...

This was back in March! Surely they have answered you by now? Come on, lets see the reply please....

Anonymous said...

Moved to Malaysia 5 years ago my Council tax bill is with exchange rate £131 a year. The rubbish is collected 3 times a week! The streets are cleaned every day.

Jonny said...

Do you empty your own bins into your own private land fill, recycle your own glass and plastic? Never drive on public roads or park in public car parks? You're so full of shit it's untrue. You have a twisted view of the world based on half fact and rumour, and you use ti to peddle bigotted shit on the internet, seemingly oblivious to the fact nobody gives a shit what you have to say. It'd all be a little more authentic if you weren't so shit scared (or just downright ashamed) that you hide behind a mask.

Old Holborn said...

Aw, are you so angry I won't pay your bills for you, you had to leave a comment?

When you eventually find out who I am, you will have found out who you are.

Old Holborn said...

Ps. I didn't go to jail, wasn't made bankrupt and didn't pay.

Interesting eh?

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Anonymous said...

In Luxembourg the firebrigade is made up of volunteers. Each household is invited to contribute. If you don't, your house won't be protected. It's a fair system. Rubbish collection is private company.

Anonymous said...

High taxes will be europes downfall. Once all the jobs are outsourced, wages will fall lower and lower, till people can't afford to pay for the state "welfare", and while countries go bankrupt. It's already happening!

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