Tuesday, 3 November 2009

Cast Iron Guarantees Eh !




Vote Tory, for why ? their cast iron guarantees count for absolutely nothing.

The LPUK did not fight the Euro elections because it made a policy decision not to engage or give legitimacy to an organisation that does not of the assent of the citizens of this country, they were not asked. Labour promised a Referendum and the Tories promised the same. Same Result, you don't count.

Libertarianism is about have as little Government as possible and as close to the people as possible NOT creating super states, that only benefit the political classes.

Virtually every Party including UKIP and BNP were queuing up to stand for the EU gravy train, even the 'nationalist' parties of Wales,Scotland and Kernow were queuing up on the grounds of getting bigger subsidies from the EU. You do not become wealthier by creating bigger chains to hold you down.

The Tory Party is now heading for a damaging split over Europe again, because it is has two EU personalities that are utterly incompatable.

The Monarchy has signed all of these Bills ceding power to a supra national, undemocratic organisation since 1974 and has largely been supine as an institution to the will of the Political classes determined that we become a less accountable society.

Never mind the fiction of the NWO conspiracists the Imperial EU has arrived, because you all voted Labour,Conservative,Social Democrat,BNP and UKIP, the sensible ones did not vote and therefore gave legitimacy to this Coup D'Etat

Unless there is an umbrella opposition to this form 'gerrymandering' style of Government, our individual Liberties will be further driven underfoot.

UPDATE

The Czechs have ratified the Lisbon Treaty. There was no serious opposition to this in the Rotten Parliament.

47 comments:

Righty Right Wing (Mrs) said...

FFS Holborn,

Lying Red Labour morphing into Lying Blue Labour?

After Lisbon is ratified there will be no wiggle room for "Cast Iron Dave" - & he knows it, & we know it, so why is he making such a hoon of himself?

The Tories are the same lying Euro_Hoons as the recycled marxists in Labour.

Vote independent.

Guthrum gaffs 2 said...

"The LPUK did not fight the Euro elections because it made a policy decision not to engage or give legitimacy to an organisation that does not of the assent of the citizens of this country, they were not asked. Labour promised a Referendum and the Tories promised the same."

And the Libertarians are still a pathetic and unheard of outside of a few political blogs.

While the BNP and UKIP rise within the media and mainstreme to have an impact in the real, such as appearences on question time and the mainstreme and the Libertarians who could not afford or support an EU election campaign even if it wanted to are still nowhere to be seen in the political arena, yet twats like Guthrum see this as an advantage!!

You are showing your ignorance of politics and the real world guthrumn.

No doubt the Libertarains will not stand for parliment seeing as they believe in small goverment and the house of commons is far to large.

You Glibertarians must be the most deluded ineffectual hot air blowers in politics.

Not sure if you can claim the Libertarians are even in politics seeing as they are so far down below the radar.

Again Guthrum through your ignorance and lack of pragmatism and reality you are part of the problem, still spewing ineffectual claptrap.

Enjoy your rightious gulag Guthrum as that is where your politics is leading you.

No wonder we are in the shat that we are if you are meant to be leading the opposition!

Anonymous said...

The story of UKIP has been the most troubling I think. Never focusing on national politics, MEPs going native and being imposed as candidates on the membership, the party being run as a one man Nigel Farage show, Farage fronting up to the electoral commission and goading them to chase them through the courts over the party donation from Alan Bown.

This whole history makes me feel uneasy and I at the back of my mind I wonder whether it all happened as deliberate sabotage.

Edgar said...

NWO conspiracy is a fiction? What, then, is it that you are fighting against? A bunch of undemocratic power-hungry psychopaths who just happen to be sharing the same vision? By chance?

I'm currently a member of LPUK but it doesn't look like it's worth a renewal to me. Heads so far up your arses, no coherence, and no organising ability.

Is anyone actually running anything anywhere?

Anonymous said...

Gaffs 2

Yes, the BNP have a rationale for trying to get ME"P" s elected. That is, so long as they keep focusing on national politics, start to cut out the cronyism and become more professional and democratic. Otherwise, you will go the same way that UKIP has gone.

I wouldn`t be so dismissive of the other small parties, they have good ideas and good principles.

If the BNP don`t start reforming, I don`t think they will reconfigure politics in this country, so it might have to be the English Democrats or LPUK that are the best hope.

defender said...

"the sensible ones did not vote and therefore gave legitimacy to this Coup D'Etat"
Guthrum, a bit early in the day to be pissed.

Anonymous said...

Our only hope is for the BNP & UKIP to merge and bring in anyone else,Libertarians,English Democrats,even the Girl Guides! The iron curtain is coming down and we'll be on the inside. Forget party politics,personalities,name calling etc,unless you really want to live under ingsoc. Its happening before your very eyes,very soon we're going to be properly fucked!
Urban11

Anonymous said...

If Cameron doesn't give me a vote on Europe, he's lost my vote.

Simples.

bofl said...

guthrum- you need to read your own articles before posting!!!!!

brown+cameron etc.........all want the same........ego driven and want to be 'someone'..........

and so does sarko+mengele( sorry markel) even berlusconi.........

all want to be king of the castle and fuck you and i........

de gaulle outwitted the dim tosser ted heath and we have been shafted ever since.......

we need to leave the eu now.......
before it is too late.......
what will it be like when EVERYTHING is controlled by Bruxelles?

we cant even get rid of the corrupt criminal gay scottish commie parasites masquerading as our govt now..........talk about treason.

Wyrdtimes said...

Kernow? WTF is that?

Guthrum said...

The herd mentality is alive and well

We may be the tiniest speck of dust in the political miasma but that does not make us wrong.

Not so long ago when Labour had ended boom and bust and Conservatives were going to match Labour spending, we were squeaking that the sysyem was going to implode because the growth of Fiat money, three years ago. Deemed nutters.

Then it imploded as we said it would

BNP were banging on about race, UKIP about Europe.

For three years we said the Constitutional arrangements in this Country were corrupt and leading us to a loss of Liberty, the growth of a Political class.

The BNP were banging on about race, and the UKIP about Europe.

When the banks collapsed we said do not put a penny of taxpayers money in, let them fold and break the monopoly up.

Even Labour are starting to do this to try and get the Taxpayers money back.

BNP were banging on about race, UKIP about Europe

If you think we are all pissed, I prefer that to your 'reality'. You all want to be lead to the promised land by 'Leaders'.

Here's a secret, they do not know what they are doing, they ony know how to tax and spend your money, thats all

I am Stan said...

Some of you guys are talking the talk about Liberty and freedoms and in the same breath slagging off the most freedom loving party in the UK....

For fucks sake what do you want? the nice man to walk up to you with your freedoms on a silver platter with a pretty doily and say ¨their you are sweetie here are your freedoms back¨

JOIN LPUK...GET INVOLVED..MAKE THAT CHANGE..GET SOME NUTS..STOP FUCKING CRYING LIKE LITTLE GIRLS AND FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT....

or go home an grumble like an old bitter granny..for fucks sake!

Old Holborn said...

Be the change that you want to see in the world - Mohandas Gandhi

Join me on November 5th. Noon. Parliament.

defender said...

"If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." Wnston Churchill

Anonymous said...

OH,
I admire your stunt and I hope you get a load of publicity.More likely end up in a Fixated Threat Assesment Centre. Time is running out,the opposition must merge or get crushed.
Urban11

Ron Broxted said...

Whe have no alternative now than to tell the Conservatives to give us our country back or vote BNP.

defender said...

Ron, its not for the conservitives to give our country, our country belongs to the British people no matter what the establishment and their syncophants might say.
The United Kingdom of Great Britain is entrusted to a political parties for 5 years to run and manage on behalf of the British people.
It is not in their gift to give it away, sell it or make major changes without the conscent of those to whom they are contracted.
HM LIZ of buck house does not own the gaff either, her oath to us the owners is quite clear as to who calls the shots, Namely we the people.
Its almost like a manager who sells your business, it is not his to sell. The buyer would be handling stolen property and both would be done for fraud but this is of an entirely different scale, but none the less illegal.

Dave"don't call me Gordon" Cameron said...

For the last fucking time there will be no referendum on the Lisbon Treaty.

I have spoken so everyone else can fuck off

Guthrum said...

HM LIZ of buck house does not own the gaff either, her oath to us the owners is quite clear as to who calls the shots, Namely we the people.

'chokes' with laughter.

What Oath ?? Defend the Constitution ? What Constitution, especially of we the people variety. The monarchy has meekly signed away the largest transfer of sovereign power in our History.

All we have had is ohhh what a nice frock she was wearing when she did it.

You are not citizens you are nu-serfs

haddock said...

same way that UKIP has gone....

UKIP second biggest UK party in the Parliament that makes our laws.....
LPUK 36 (?) votes to a fucking prefect in the Fens.... tell me how you are going to win !

For fuck's sake get a grip and help UKIP fight this one.... they are the only opposition party now as the others have coalesced into one ideology. UKIP is a long way from perfect but is the most Libertarian choice you have, go and read their policies..... only if you come.... don't start fucking banging on about legalising pot; there are more important things to worry about right now.

bofl said...

GUTHRUM- it must be obvious why the govt want to break up the banks.......?

surely so that at the election they can bang on about how gordon saved the world and the taxpayer hasnt lost any money?

(of course forgetting the £250 billion++++ of shit 'assets'.....ie bonds with fuck all value and little chance of being repaid plus the printing of £225 billion .oh and PLUS the money in northern cock)

EVERY FUCKING THING IS A SCAM!!!!!!

bofl said...

holborn............chandos on thursday?

how will i know who you are if everyone has a V mask on?

red rose? carnation?

i will be the stocky bloke with a cropped barnet.......
so i will look like all the other not in fancy dress!!!!!!

Mitch said...

If Cameron doesn't give me a vote on Europe, he's lost my vote.

Me Too!! fuck em

Guthrum said...

but is the most Libertarian choice you have, go and read their policies.....

I did, thats why I joined the LPUK !

UKIP is a one trick pony, that has no more chance of getting a Westminster than our prefect.

The Conservatives got in with 19% of the available vote in Norwich North, what does that tell you

(By the way check some of your own results in recent years)

The LPUK are always happy to talk to other parties that share a platform of ending this farce of Westminster Rigged Politics, but at the end of the day we just don't believe in 'strong' governments blue/green/yellow/mauve or red.

The opposition is crippled and divided, that is why we have the rotten parliament we deserve.

I am Stan said...

Can i come in traditional warrior dress on friday?

or will i get jumped for being an immigrant ...it`s hard to tell.

Guthrum is the reason we lost our country today. said...

"Guthrum said,
BNP were banging on about race, UKIP about Europe"

Wow what a freeeking ignorant post, the BNP warned us of the credit boom long before it even entered you pea brain, the BNP warned of our eroding liberties through the EU long before it entered your pea brain, the BNP warned us of the illegal wars and their real motivation long before it entered your pea brain. the BNP warned us of immigration long before it entered your pea brain, the BNP warned us of the rise of terrorism before it entered your pea brain. The BNP warned us about the encroaching EU long before it entered your pea brain.

NEVER before have I read a more ignorant post regarding another party and it's constant warnings.

Perhaps if you had listened to the BNP rather than whatever shite you did listen to at the time you may have been more aware and ahead of where you currently are which is not even of the starting block while Europe have just taken control of our country.

You realy are a pathetic brainwashed dogmatic sheep with blinkers and a limp Guthrum.

Do a search on the BNP and these issues and you will find that you haven't got a freaking clue what the hell you are talking about - not a clue, you are a disgrace to political blogging, even the Mirror wouldn't make such blind crass statements.

As for the BNP they are certainly far from perfect and I would like them to follow a more libertarian view and many of us feel this way, yet your lies and shite are dishonest, ignorant, crass and unhelpful.

You should join the freeking Labour party for all the good you are.

I am Stan said...

I THINK ILL STAY AT HOME...

haddock said...

Guthrum, I asked 'tell me how you are going to win !'

The LPUK are always happy to talk to other parties....what a pretentious fellow you are ! You make it sound that LPUK is a real party rather than a handful of bloggers.

as I said get a fucking grip .... and do something useful in the real world.

Anonymous said...

You realy are a pathetic brainwashed dogmatic sheep with blinkers and a limp Guthrum.

Cheers !

As for the BNP they are certainly far from perfect and I would like them to follow a more libertarian view

You really need to read the BNP manifesto, public flogging and capital punishment- far from perfect

dectinf said...

"The Monarchy has signed all of these Bills ceding power to a supra national, undemocratic organisation since 1974 and has largely been supine as an institution to the will of the Political classes determined that we become a less accountable society."

Sovereignty remains with us, the people. Parliament can do no more than lend it to others and they have done so without our express permission. This is the way of the modern politician - delegate as much authority to others to make their own lives much easier. We simply need to stop electing people who shovel our authority abroad or into the hands of quangocrats without asking us.

The decision of the Czech courts should be spread far and wide - the Lisbon treaty does not cost them their sovereignty. Nor does it cost us ours. With enough right minded MPs we could be out of the EU tomorrow and there is nothing legitimate that the EU could do to stop us. We do not have to abide by the exit terms of the treaties if we cease to recognise their standing. The problems are in Westminster not Brussels, and to a reasonable extent we must look at ourselves too.

We have been too supine over our MPs showing no regard for the promises they have made. We also abide by the arguments our politicians make - viewing the Lisbon treaty and previous agreements as binding (which they cannot be) and that to leave the EU would be a massive undertaking (which it wouldn't be) and costly (it needn't be). This breed of politician represent the EU and not us, and they would be incapable of being MPs without the supporting structure constructed in Brussels. This is utterly wrong. This is not the way it should be and we were lied to to get things like this.

No parliament can bind successive parliaments - our continued membership of the EU is not a function of the signed agreements but a function of the MPs in Parliament who would rather Britain stayed in than stand on our own two feet.

Roger Dodger said...

I just read the 54 articles of the Charter on Fundamental Rights (that's how I roll MF). It goes as far as guaranteeing the right for old people to have dignity and a social life. FFS, if I had been in the meeting when some Harman type suggested that that was 'fundemental' I would have assumed I was having the piss taken. They really mean they have a legal obligation to tax us and employ as many bureaucrats as it takes to achieve their stagnant notion of 'dignity'. Fucking socialists.
Am in a particularly rantish mood.
To think of the ridiculous numbers that protest against globalisation, bankers and runways? Where are they as their vote is slowly reduced to a 1/250,000th of an MEP in a talking shop that does not have legislative initiative, I am all for globalisation, I am just anti massive cash-rinsing anti-democratic fraud shops. Besides, anything that provided Neil and Glenys Kinnock with over 8 million quid should be burned down out of principle. Tossers and their Enron sense of propriety can't even have their budget signed off for any year this century. For the above you get called 'Eurosceptic'.
All this just to stop the Germans from invading everyone apparently. Grrrrrr

Antipholus Papps said...

Do the BNP really advocate public flogging? I'm sure those pushing for Sharia Law would heartily applaud!

(Choose your enemies wisely, for in time you will become like them.)

I am Stan said...

HEY...GUTHRUM IS THE REASON WE LOST OUR COUNTRY TODAY

What a gobshite you are!..what shit your talking..whining like a spoilt school girl about your lost country and gobbing off with silly insults..

you do not have a fucking brain cell...your country has problems YES I AGREE....so your answer PUT THE NEO NAZIS IN CHARGE..

what a cunt you are FUCK OFF BACK TO YOUR BUNKER PUT ON YOUR LEATHER CAP AND
PISS AND WHINE WITH ALL THE OTHER HITLER LOSERS...

At least GUTHRUM has the balls to post his considered opinions in an identifiable way....

YOU do`nt even have the balls or brain or plain old english GUTS to be recognised in any way ...you fucking COWARD....GO ON FUCK OFF GRIFFO IS WANTING HIS COCK SUCKED..

I apologise to anyone with a brain cell who may have been offended by my comments but i can not stomach COWARDS WHO GOB OFF...good night all...

Anonymous said...

But R.B 17.05 as a leading light of the U.A.F how can you call for such a thing? You wouldn't be illegally impersonating a writer on The Independent would you?

Rogerborg said...

That's that, then.

Welcome to the United States of Europe.

One State, one Law, one Junta.

fuckedoffprole said...

Forget party politics this is more important than that, our only hope is an alliance between the anti EU parties UKIP, BNP, LPUK, EDP join together to fight this, organise marches etc, no one has to agree on anything apart from getting out of the EUSSR.

John Steed said...

I Am Stan is the only one talking sense. Defender you were duped, R.B. 17.05 is a false ID but I am sure our wonderful police will be on the case!

Irony and hypocracy is lost on the liberal fascists said...

I am Stan
03 November 2009 19:45

You should re-read your imbecilic rambling rant of a post post through carefully and then you will realise why everyone is pissing themsefs laughing at you and the irony in you post.

Pure satire, that only a moronic self rightious - Nazis, its the Nazis screeming subversive could write as we decend into an undemocratic totalitarian European superstate - the new third reich!

Run along now, Labour and their other two subversive supporters are missing you.

Perhaps they have middle east invasion war for you to support!

multiple usernames are for people who have lost the argument said...

John Steed said...
I Am Stan is the only one talking sense. Defender you were duped, R.B. 17.05 is a false ID but I am sure our wonderful police will be on the case!

03 November 2009 22:36

I find it rather sad when someone has such a weak minority point of view that they have to use multiple identities on blogs supporting themselfs.

Word of advice,

No matter how many people you can invent to back up your crap, it still remains unpopular crap!

Guthrum, nurse says you must take your medicine NOW! said...

"Never mind the fiction of the NWO conspiracists the Imperial EU has arrived, because you all voted Labour,Conservative,Social Democrat,BNP and UKIP, the sensible ones did not vote and therefore gave legitimacy to this Coup D'Etat"

This has got to be a joke post right?

This is the worst post I have EVER read.

I'm not joking Guthrum, this really is so crass, so lacking in logic, so utterly insane that I have to ask what happend to the real Guthrum, did you let you wife post a while back when you were making several coherent arguments and points?

Your imbecillic ignorance is world class.

I am Liberal fascist Stan said...

I am Stan,

what a dissapointing response, that was the biggest pile of Liberal fascist nothingness I ever read.

Where were the fireworks, the great debating intellect, a single braincell was even too much to ask for, it would appear.

If you want to make an impact for your deadly, destructive, subversive cause and not look about as clever as an old guy with his flies open while smelling of piss, yes we know that is what liberal fascists do, but it simply does not cut it anymore,

You will have to seriously up your game as currently you are not even sport.

It would feel cruel to even give reply to your crass shite, however there are times when one has to be cruel to be kind.

adam said...

Guys dont give up on libertarians. there are a lot of great people in libertarian movements around the world and their support is growing very fast.

BNP members need to understand that they have negative baggage that others dont want to be associated with. The establishment always tries to connect non Communist parties to racism and the BNP is their favorite vehicle to do this.
So have more PR nouse than Nick Griffin if you want your liberties back.

Immigrants wont come here without a welfare sate and an EU opening job centers in Africa

Anonymous said...

Adam,
put up with a little "negative baggage",hold your nose if you must.What the EUSSR and islam are planning for you is worse than any nightmare. We havn't got a Geert Wilders over here,so until someone better comes along,Nick Griffin is our best hope.
Urban11

Anonymous said...

Wow.. what an intense and with the exception of OH and Stan, and a couple of others, mainly gobshite.

For anyone reading this and now wondering what the hell they should be thinking, take a step back, remember that you are responsible for anything that happens in your life, nobody else. You are responsible for how you wish to live and don't let some twat in a suit dictate your life. That is all the politicians do.. Libertarianism may not be your ideal, or mainstream enough to have an impact yet, but I would put hard money on the fact that you cannot find a better alternative that is actually workable, and if you join and your friends join, we can and WILL have a say in all this shite going on in Brussells. - George Monsoon

Anonymous said...

Public floggings & capital punishment sounds pretty good to me right now. Some public floggings might discourage the current pack of thieving MPs, and capital punishment for treason (Blair, Brown, Mandelson, Kinnochios to name but a few, doing the Tyburn Two Step) also seems a mighty fine idea & a just punishment.

ukipwebmaster said...

EU-turn if you want to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLdVWj3LqhQ

Kaygee said...

Ein volk! Ein Reich! Ein Europa!

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