I don't think you can compare the BNP (and its Pan European allies) with the rest of the troughers in Brussels and Westminster.Just look at the way the rest of them ganged up on Griffin on Question Time.Its often said that all politicians are the same - well, the evidence on view on Question Time was quite literally that there is a clear choice in British politics today - the liberal establishment OR the BNP.It really *is* that simple.And your suggestion otherwise Guthrum is rather disingenuous and says more about your own prejudices I'm afraid. The way you disparage all the time the BNP you'd think it was them who'd tried to shaft you whilst stealing your tax dollars.But as I've said before, I think the reality of multi-culturalism doesn't bite quite so hard in rural Dorset.WV: oboristr - interesting !
Rural Dorset? Is that really where the pro-immigration Guthrum lives?Try moving to Wembley Guthrum.
Griffin will be a millionaire within 24 months.The EU rewards those who play the game.
The EU will hate giving them a penny, they prefer to throw money at the Kinnocks and Mandelsons. If the EU hates it I'm all for it.
AnonI saw the video earlier. Interesting work. I pass no judgement.
But would you want to live in Wembley OH? How about you Guthrum? This is what open borders brings.On the subject of the BNP and EU expenses I think this article is worth reading before you make any more accusations.Nick Griffin also plans to publish all of his accounts and expenses online as soon as they become available. Hardly the actions of a 'trougher'.
Old Holborn said... Griffin will be a millionaire within 24 months.The EU rewards those who play the game.02 November 2009 19:54No MEPs - no questopmn time, It's a stepping stone to power if you hadn't noticed OH. Or do you think in a climate of pro EU global wineing propaganda that the BNP will just majic into power without having to clime the ladder. Still at least Griffin isn't a Tory claiming to be anti EU Libertarian while sucking on the EU tit and clinging to a party commited to the EUSSR, like one of your heros Hannan.Now that is not only a trougher but a phoney.But hey OH if the Libertarians had a couple of MEPs and got on question time bringing in more views than ever on a national scale to the public then perhaps they would be better known. But as we both know the unpopular Libertarians will be lucky to get a few councilors let alone MEPs. Guthrun, gaffs.
For rural Dorset.read Bristol, my poppetsQuite a diverse population here
Anonymous said...Rural Dorset? Is that really where the pro-immigration Guthrum lives?Try moving to Wembley Guthrum.02 November 2009 19:53Ahem, as the government says we must be really vigilant against the danger of terrorism. Probably just lots of people on their way to work?
Many in Wales hate the English, whilst the country lives off the Westminster taxes.How long until the Welsh BNP decide that "Wales is for the Welsh"?About 20 minutes, I reckon.
Nick Griffin also plans to publish all of his accounts and expenses online as soon as they become available.'plans' best laid plans and all that
"become available"I run my own accounts for my business and could publish them in 40 secs.
I've just read the article and I can't see how the BNP and Nick Griffin are going to come out of this any richer on a personal level ?The money will be used to pay extra staff, and there are still a lot of if's, buts and maybe's before it is confirmed.I would be amazed if any of those funds end up in BNP coffers. Yet another in the long list of anti-BNP smear stories.
One thing is certain. That video wasn't doctored with CGI.There are other parts of London where a similar film could have been made. Other towns and cities, too. Whatever one thinks of the BNP, it is a persuasive piece of evidence for one of their platforms.
Just clicked that that shitty al-guardian link and guess what there's nothing new there at all?The really interesting thing was when the BNP won their seats the press became alarmed and revealed the sort of monies involved,strange they didn't do that before huh?How many MEP's are there again,not much mention of the lib lab con MEP's,apart from those foul kinnocks."Anti-fascist groups have expressed grave concerns about the formation of the Alliance of European National Movements, warning that it threatens to undermine the democratic process."What fucking democratic process is that then,referendum anyone?
And the Guardian reported it!!
Guthrum 20:15"Nick Griffin also plans to publish all of his accounts and expenses online as soon as they become available."Failing that, with their usual lax IT security, they'll be published online anyway.
GCooper, it's more of the same if the Libertarians have their way.As to the expenses, why don't you reserve judgement and see if they really do publish their expenses and donate 10% of their salaries, all excess travel expenses and savings made by paying the flat-rate 15% tax on their wages to a charity set up to benefit youngsters in their North West and Yorkshire & Humber constituencies?
Oh Dear, Guthrum and OH have become propagandists for the NWO.You are part of the problem guys!Enjoy your EUSSR while you dream of the Libertarians coming to the rescue!
The really interesting thing was when the BNP won their seats the press became alarmed and revealed the sort of monies involved,strange they didn't do that before huh?Good point! They probably believe only approved troughers should get it.
So fucking sue me.Sue my advertisersSue my backersTwat
Nick Griffin and that other bloke are worth every penny.Just for being a small spanner in this cosy clusterfuck machine called the EU Parliament.When more far right MEPs get in power the Left wing wankers might realise the EU aint such a good idea.
Yes dik'ed, of course we want to pull the money in. It costs money to fight elections and we get sod all from big business and rich people.What would you do?Got nothing to do with going native.Idiot.
"Alliance of European National Movements"? Isn't that like a "Dark Stuffy Closet for Claustrophobics"?What's their collective policy? That they all hate each other more than anybody else hates them?Loving that video though. Socialists and liberals everywhere will rejoice in the wondrous urban diversity, from behind their locked doors in the leafy suburbs.
Anonymous - even if the BNP's MEPs do what you say (and I have no reason to assume they won't) I can't stomach the Old Labour economic policies. Even if we were out of the EU, we would still sink under that sort of economic mismanagement.That said, I think it is wrong to criticise the BNP for forming alliances, now that they have MEPs and it would be impossible for them to function at all without financial resources which, if we are being fair, the Righteous have done everything they can (and it's a lot) to prevent them getting - from initmdating potential donors to threatening banks, to naked propaganda assaults in the state-poodle media.Using the corrupt system against itself seems a reasonable policy to me - particularly when the system has been rigged so that it is almost immune from attack from without. I'll judge the BNP by what it does, not rush to a hasty judgement, particularly if it's based on twaddle from that fount of all twaddle, the Guardian.
I've just read the article and I can't see how the BNP and Nick Griffin are going to come out of this any richer on a personal level ?Watch & Learn- He will show you how
Guthrum said...I've just read the article and I can't see how the BNP and Nick Griffin are going to come out of this any richer on a personal level ?Watch & Learn- He will show you howIf they were really scamming money it would be all over the fucking press,so where is it?
Guthrum - with respect, that is just a prediction. It's not evidence and it's not an argument.If the BNP is wrong (which I suspect it is, on several levels) arguing against it on that basis is no better than the sort of routine nonsense pumped-out by the Righteous.
Britain imports more goods from the EU than it exports,pays more in than it gets out in contributions to the EU and we provide (at our expence)at least 50% of Europes nuclear weapons capabilities.Why does this country not swing a bigger dick in the EU?
Here's someone else who doesn't want the BNP to have any MEP's.Looking at his page,they seemed to have missed out what he actually does for Britain.He's on at least the same money,but probably has a group payment for staff on top.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sajjad_KarimWhen there arn't MEP's like the one above,i might start to consider the thought crimes of the BNP but not before.
guthrum-why are you having a dig at griffin? hevent you noticed the 646 cheats,sodomites and general backward arse lickers and the 'lords' (unelected shit stabbers) who have been milking US for £billions for eternity????????i dont support the bnp but you seem a little late?as for the video.as the man said,nobody in the uk voted for this.......quite right........immigration was about importing cheap labour-in the past wage inflation was the great pariah......now it is used by big business to CUT wages and by labour to buy votes.......they even learned a few tricks and rigged voting too!!!!!my own town is now being filled up by immigrants because our council did a deal with the london borough of newham to take thousands of people...if i wanted to live in harare iw ould fucking well move there!!!!!!!nobody asked us.as usual.
We'll soon see. If they come clean with publishing their accounts and are completely transparent.. that's when you have to worry. Their membership will begin to grow again!
Guthrum, you've stirred up a hornet's nest here. OH's site has been called "BNP central" elsewhere and when you read the comments here it's easy to see why. So many angry BNP'ers lurk on this site... perhaps they come here for OH's trademark "Libertarian" hatred of Labour and dolescum and fat people and gays and Muslims. But when you post, they get links to the Guardian(!) filled with hatred of Saint Nick, the noble saviour of Ingerland. Clearly you are a supporter of the new world order and probably some sort of crypto-Tory lizard man.
Anon 22.34 - keep it up. 'BNP Central' eh? That'd be as opposed to 'Capitulation Corner' or 'Dhimmi Depot' would it?That's just the sort of juvenile stuff that's feeding them.
Britain imports more goods from the EU than it exports,pays more in than it gets out in contributions to the EU and we provide (at our expence)at least 50% of Europes nuclear weapons capabilities.And they've eaten all our fish.
One thing I'm sure of is that Nick Griffin did not enter politics for personal gain. Whether you like it or not,he is a true patriot.Urban11
I'm an ex-Labour now BNP voter.Why do I visit OH, Guido Fawkes, Biased BBC and a ton of other political blogs ?Because they happen to be very good. It's a simple as that.I don't always agree with what they say, it's probably a 50/50 split. But just because I'm a BNP voter doesn't mean I am a slave to the BNP manifesto and I do have ideas of my own.I don't mind Griffin and the BNP being slagged off when they deserve it, but I reckon a good 99% of the flak they get is ridiculous.As a final thought.....could it be possible that a lot of comments on blogs are pro-BNP because they actually have a hell of a lot more support than people think ?
Nationalism Europe-wide... this is the best possible solution. I'm all for this extra cash going to Nationalist causes, think of it not funding the Loony Left.We'll be out of the EU soon enough at this rate and best of all, you may have to thank Nick Griffin LOL.
Bear in mind that "nationalist" is just shorthand for "socialist, and it would be a paradise if 'twern't for all the immigrants"
Why shouldn't the BNP get what they can out of the EU? It leaves less for the other MEPs - like the troughing Kinnochios - and it really pisses off both Labour & the EU - both good results from my viewpoint.
I'm with Sue on this. If they produce normal accounts then that will be more worrying.
This is a silly article... what happened, did you try to verify Prof. Nutts list of recreational poisons by personal experiement before writing this? ;-DAll the article says is that the BNP will get more political influence and more money -- more ammunition to stoke the fire underneath the govt. fat arses... what is not to love? The BNP doing well livens up democracy, they aren't going to get into power anyway (think about the logistics, they won't even get enough vetted and trained MPs to stand... not for a few years anyway), but in the meanwhile, they will upset the apple cart and the cozy deals of our professional politicians and get the peasants to start thinking critically and remember their pitchforks.
I think you'll find the majority of potential BNP voters that comment on here are most concerned about the state of the country re mass immigration, political correctness (cultural Marxism) and our imminent entrapment in the looming EU superstate. That doesn't mean they aren't also acutely aware of the ever expanding 'Big Brother', 'Orwellian' surveillance state as well as the corrupt state of British politics. That's why they also look at sites such as this.The BNP are far from ideal but if you want to put an end to the list above who else do you vote for?I'm also still waiting to hear if OH or Guthrum would consider living in Wembley.
Many in Wales hate the English, whilst the country lives off the Westminster taxes.How long until the Welsh BNP decide that "Wales is for the Welsh"?http://www.plaidcymru.org/
none of the political parties have honour or loyalty. They are all off on the gravy train to Brussels to get new jobs. none will go down with the ship
Bunch of total bloodsuckers is wot I say!! I worked for President PW Botha in his official residence for 7 years... The very sight of politicians makes me slightly green, an im not talking about my carbon footprint cause thats a separate state of a non issue.First visit here.. Interesting! Give them horns!
Its hilarious that you knobs really want a Nationalist gov...and at the same time whine about a big brother socialist one..hahahaha maybe you will get what you desire and then the scales will fall from your eyes...Griffo aint you best buddy he and his henchmen want to rule you, body and mindyou know ..like Hitler.
Remember, remember the Fifth of November, The Gunpowder Treason and Plot, I know of* no reason Why the Gunpowder Treason Should ever be forgot. Guy Fawkes, Guy Fawkes, t'was his intent To blow up the King and Parli'ment. Three-score barrels of powder below To prove old England's overthrow; By God's providence he was catch'd (or by God's mercy*) With a dark lantern and burning match. Holloa boys, holloa boys, let the bells ring. (Holla*) Holloa boys, holloa boys, God save the King!
Stop wasting time and effort attacking the BNP. We all konw what they are like. We need to continue the fight against Brown and Cameroon - both are traitors.
Anonymous said...Rural Dorset? Is that really where the pro-immigration Guthrum lives?Try moving to Wembley Guthrum.02 November 2009 19:53Is there any room ?
Hey Guthrum, Try residing in the West Midlands... West Brom, Walsall, Wolverhampton....once the cradle of the Industrial Revolution, now full of Immigrants that cant even get work sewing Anoraks in their own family sweatshops!
I am Stan,I don't really mind a Nationalist or Socialist government......just as long as they are a good government that puts the wishes of the country and it's people first.
¨and its people first¨ I wonder if im one of Griffo`s people and whether he would have my best interests in mind....hahahaha...that would be a NO..One mans good gov is anothers disaster.
Word ver: coonceswhat are the odds?ps. any1 c mike tyson on sky news? what a cunt, what a fucked up piece of shit
Amazing how many libertarians live outside our multi-cultural environs.Easy to spout such spiel, when you dont live in the shit!I wonder how many got their wealth from the Bank of Mom and Dad.Oh yes, its nice in Switzerland and on the coasts of France and such like. Nice to blog and observe the crap that ordinary folk have to put up with.
Working class rebel..so you know where all the Libertarians live do you..amazing..and the details of their finances...superb..and even where they take their hols..incredible...or are you talking shit...oh but of course they are not as ordinary as you...that i can believe..GET BACK TO WORK
I'm also still waiting to hear if OH or Guthrum would consider living in Wembley.Never considered it, anymore than I have considered living in Sevenoaks, Chelsea,or the West Midlands.I live where I live because it suits me, if it no longer suits me I will move to somewhere that does suit me.Nobody is actually compelled to live anywhere are they ? (yet)
Clearly you are a supporter of the new world order and probably some sort of crypto-Tory lizard man.Cool- Somebody else who plainly does not understand Libertarianism !
Guthrum I live where I live because it suits me, if it no longer suits me I will move to somewhere that does suit me.Weasel words. I guarantee that ‘somewhere that does suit me’ will be a place far removed from the likes of Wembley, Bury Park or Bradford. Like the champaign socialists, libertarians are all for mass immigration so long as the adverse consequences can be dumped onto someone else, out of sight and out of mind.
I am Stan is right, fuck the BNP and any cunt that supports them.
@ I am Stan.Stan. What would you do if the BNP were to gain power (which is very unlikely, so I'm speaking hypothetically)?
Nice to see the North/South divide is still alive away.
Old Holborn said:- So fucking sue me. Sue my advertisers Sue my backers TwatAnd this man/woman? call the BNP ignorant thugs. What a lovely command of English he/she has.
on the sidelines-what would you do if the BNP gained power?Thats an interesting question,basically i would get on with my day,go to work,the pub,just carry on as normal and see how events turn out.If a BNP guvmint started deporting the likes of me then i would have to go eventually..they would have the full power of the state,police,army ,security services and of course public opinion so resistance would be minimal and probably pointless.My main concern would not be fear of the state but risk of attack from BNP supporters and hangers on who, with a BNP guvmint would see it as a green light to vent their frustrations and anger at minorities both individually and on a community scale.there are plenty of people who do not need much of an excuse if any to get very very nasty...It is very unlikely that Griffo`s tribe would get enough votes to form a guvmint but they may get a few MPsIf so the other parties may start taking the Britsh peoples concerns seriously which i think is a good thing but it shouldnt take the election of neo-nazis to make that happenLike i said i would just get on with my day as normal...and any cunt who thinks he can get in my face after a few pints will get a knuckle sandwich..as normal!Final thought..its a big world out there with many amazing places to go and live etc.
I am Stan My main concern would not be fear of the state but risk of attack from BNP supporters and hangers on who, with a BNP guvmint would see it as a green light to vent their frustrations and anger at minorities both individually and on a community scalePity you don't get concerned by attacks by minorities on the indigenous population happening right here and now on a daily basis.
There are attacks being made by all races on all races here and nowand i beleive it is wrong whoever does it ...do you have evidence that i am not concerned or are you making assumptions...prick!
Prick yourself.Plenty of white people speak out specifically against the race attacks coming from the White community. How many Blacks or Asians speak out about race attacks coming from the Black and Asian communities? See the difference?Until Blacks and Asians actually start giving a shit about and the race attacks their own communities commit, weasel comments like ‘i beleive it is wrong whoever does it……’ simply won’t wash.This isn’t the 1980s anymore. White people ain’t going to put up with the sheer hypocrisy of race relations in this country for ever.
Annonymouse-what a load of self pitying waffle ..most people speak out about attacks of any kind as being wrong..the silent majority black and white are not as race obsessed as you obviously are..I live in a diverse area and in my circles almost everyone speaks out against violence of any kind..of course their are exceptions as always..to think there would not be would be stupid would it not? You are directing your angst at the wrong person and taring everyone with the same brush..speak to your MP..or just get over it..
Annonymouse-what a load of self pitying waffle ..Yes, how dare white people complain about being racially attacked. How dare they!most people speak out about attacks of any kind as being wrong..Do they? Compare the very vocal reaction to the Steven Lawrence murder to the somewhat muted reaction in the Kriss Donald case. Why do you think there was such a difference? There were plenty of self-proclaimed anti-racist activists protesting outside the courtroom in the Steven Lawrence case. Were there any outside in the latter case?almost everyone speaks out against violence of any kindWell that’s nice. But vague condemnations are not enough. What precisely are Blacks and Asians doing to specifically combat racism coming from their own communities? The truth is very little, because a) Admitting there is a problem would tarnish their community’s victim status.b) Criticising their own community would be seen as some sort of treason, and acting like an Uncle Tom.c) They really aren’t they bothered..or just get over it..Yes, it’ll make life so much easier for the whole race relations industry, not to mention a fair number of Blacks and Asians, if white people could adopt the meek, 'sorry I'm white' passive position. Not going to happen anymore I’m afraid.
I`m only going to say this one more time because i suspect you do not want to hear any thing thats not in the BNP handbook.I AND MOST PEOPLE LIKE ME I KNOW THINK THAT VIOLENCE ON OTHER PEOPLE IS WRONG AND SHOULD BE CONDEMNED AND THE PEOPLE GUILTY OF SUCH OFFENCES AGAINST OTHERS SHOULD BE PUNISHED, WHETHER THEY ARE BLACK, WHITE ,BROWN,YELLOW,OR REDYou really are in a sorry state with yourself...i bet you are scared of your own shadow.I think your talking paranoid nonsense..WAKE UP..look around you ,start communicating with the people around you and you may find that people are not all DEMONS out to get ya!And if you want more exposure of black on white crime go see the BBC,THE PAPERS,GO PROTEST OUTSIDE COURT ROOMS,moaning to me about it will not get you very far i don`t control the media the guvmint does..i just get on with my day and try to be a good citizenIm starting to feel sorry for you!
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