Tuesday, 22 September 2009

No work in France

I see that 1500 Afghans, having paid tens of thousands of dollars to get to Calais, are not taking up the offer from the French to return home, or seek Asylum in the EU. Nope, they definately want to come to England.

"The conditions here are a nightmare," he said. "I had a blanket, it was stolen. I sleep in my clothes, under bridges, under buildings, moving from night to night. We've got nothing to eat except a bit of bread we get as hand-outs. If we see food, we fall on it like animals, we're so hungry. I can't go back to Afghanistan, it's too dangerous. We're afraid of the French police. There's a whole generation of young Afghans here who just want papers and a chance to work, but it seems more and more hopeless."

Erm, I picked grapes in the south of France, aged 18 in October because I was skint. Bloody hard work. Bloody good pay.

No work in France then?


Stuart said...

This is what machine guns are for!

Sue said...

The last time Britain accepted refugees from the Sangatte Camp, they gave four-year work permits to 1,200 migrants who had been waiting near the Channel Tunnel mouth in the hope of making a crossing and claiming asylum.

But three months later, it emerged that the great majority had refused work and were costing taxpayers £100,000 a day in benefits. Many were living in hotels, including the four-star Adelphi in Liverpool. None of the Sangatte migrants is thought to have left the UK since.

They don't want work, they want to live on the benefit system or as you said, they would work the land in France. If I were destitute and scared to return home, I would work anywhere!

Anonymous said...

why should they bother picking grapes when once in Britain you can get loads of stuff for free, no ID necessary, in fact it is considered to be an infringement of human rights to carry a piece of plastic that tells everyone immediately whether you are a decent tax paying citizen or a f*****g sponger.

Notice how they say it's a nightmare there? that's because their system is working NO freeloaders bleeding the country dry.

FireForce said...

Accept them into the country.
Get them in the army and trained militarily, basics is enough just a bit better than the taliban, and ship them back to Afghanistan.
Problem solved, they have a safer country, so no reason to come back here, and they get killed and not U.K. soldiers.

Anonymous said...

This is doung the rounds...

ENGLAND I think this really sums it all up.

After hearing that many cities did not want to offend other cultures by putting up Xmas lights, so DIDN'T!

After hearing that the Birmingham council changed its opinion and let a Muslim woman have her picture on her driver's licence with her face covered.

After hearing of a Primary School in Birmingham where a boy was told that for PE they could wear Football League shirts (Aston Villa, Birmingham, West Brom etc) but NOT an England shirt as it could offend others !

This prompted the editorial below written by a UK citizen.
Published in a British tabloid newspaper.


Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on London , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Brits.

However, the dust from the attacks has barely settled and the 'politically correct' crowd begin complaining about the possibility that our patriotism is offending others.

I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Britain . However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand.

This idea of England being a multicultural centre for community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Britons, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of wars, struggles, trials and victories fought by the untold masses of men and women who laid down their lives and of the millions of men and women who have sought freedom.

We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the language!

If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.. If St.George's cross offends you, then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet.

We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this.

But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our National Motto, or Our Way of Life, I encourage you take advantage of one other great British freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.

We didn't force you to come here. If you don't like it GO HOME!!

You asked to be here.. So accept the country that accepted YOU. Pretty easy really, when you think about it..

If we all keep passing this to our friends (and enemies) it will also, sooner or later get back to the complainers, lets all try, please.

No matter how many times you receive it... please forward it to all you know

Gigits said...

Fireforce: Mmmm, not a bad idea.

We could try what the Red Army did in WW2 - they would drop convict battalions from low flying aircraft, without parachutes.

Apparently enough would survive to make a fight of it on the ground.

Gallimaufry said...

Fireforce: An excellent idea. If only the Afghan refugees had a millionth of the courage (a nanoBrown?) of the Free Polish who fought and died for France and the Britain and in return Roosevelt and Churchill signed away Poland to the Soviets.

John Steed said...

That would be the Free Polish who refused Jews commissions until 1941?

AntiCitizenOne said...

Asylum seekers have to claim asylum in the first safe country they reach.

These are therefore not asylum seekers and their claims should be denied.

If they enter the country they should be flown back to Afghanistan.

Asylum should only be funded by charity not state extortion. Not enough charity? Then Sorry you cannot live here.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 2053.

Ok, so maybe you didn't write this, but it's quite wrong. With a very few exceptions, it's not the immigrants who want to complain about "Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our National Motto, or Our Way of Life". It's the righteous Establishment. They don't like your God, your patriotism, your culture or your way of life. They want to replace them. It's part of their utopian project. To them, any other culture is better than yours.

Your problem is the Establishment, not the immigrants. The Establishment's problem is you and your culture. Their solution is (1) immigration, and (2) calling you a racist if you object to it.

Rogerborg said...

Eh, no. No, it's the immigrants.

I used to work for a company run by Pakistani Muslims. They frequently filled the boardroom with their friends and family and quite openly planned how Islam would take over the West from the top down.

You've either seen it and believe it, or you haven't seen it - yet.

Mark Wadsworth said...

I feel sorry for France on this one.

If it weren't for our government dangling a huge great "come and mug us" sign all around the world, the French wouldn't have this bother with them.

electro-kevin said...

"I picked grapes in the south of France, aged 18 in October because I was skint. Bloody hard work. Bloody good pay."

Yeah. But treating rich men's haemmorrhoids in some wealthy enclave is not everyone's cup of tea. Some of these chaps are born to slice kebabs.

Anonymous said...


‘Your problem is the Establishment, not the immigrants.’

No. They are both to blame. They feed off each other and use each other to the detriment of the ordinary native Britons.

To the anti-British left, 3rd world immigrants are the new foot soldiers of their revolution, a battering ram against Britain.

To the anti-British right, interested only in money and profit, they are the useful serfs to work at rock bottom wages.

While to the immigrants, Britons are just the stupid gullible mugs who’ve allowed themselves to be overrun.

microdave said...

Anon 20:53 That MAY have been written by a U.K. citizen, but it's a virtual word for word copy of what former Australian premier John Howard said a couple of years ago.

Anonymous said...

I heard a grenouille minister on the BBC WS tell us this morning that the problem was that the UK was not a member of the Schengen agreement. So the problem in a nutshell is that we don't have border control.

The problem is clearly welfare. We really, absolutely, urgently need a system where you only get welfare if you have proof that you paid into the scheme. No health, education, housing, any fucking thing unless you have a minimum of say 5 years NI stamps. Allow the asylum claimers to work, that lets them build up a contribution record. |And we have to allow people in GENUINE fear of persecution asylum). But there has to be a minimum contribution period before you can get any benefits. The same could apply to our own teenage baby machines, and no-intention-of-ever-working yoofs.

I'm fucking sick of this stuff!

Simon said...

There were some of these Afghans that had got through by hiding in lorries on News at Ten tonight. All of them said it was great here and they were all enjoying being educated in various disciplines (IT being the most popular). Not surprising that they want to get in if that, plus free board and lodge is on offer. All while we have to pay for our own children's tuition fees and they get saddled with a load of debt. Not surprising the country is bust. I don't blame the Afghans, it's our corrupt politicians who put such things in place that want lynching.

Under the Westway said...

People in genuine fear of persecution should be seeking asylum in the first safe country they reach, not dictating where they will or won't deign to stay. Unless Europe puts a complete and immediate stop to mass migration from Africa and Asia under the guise of asylum seeking, the civilisation we have slowly and painfully built up over the past two thousand years will be destroyed. America and Australia don't accept all comers; why should we?

Anonymous said...

It was explained very clearly on LBC yesterday why people decided to come here.
Immediate benefits were given (despite what Labour says)£40+ weekly, double if married, plus £300 if pregnant, plus free glasses, medical, schooling etc etc.
In France, nothing.

Anonymous said...

Anon at 04:45, 'n France, nothing' Spot on. What is more, working 'on the black' (economy) in France is also a big no, no.

One of the advantages of the bureaucracy there is you need to identified by the system before you can do most things. Work is one of them.

So, come to Great Shitain, either work on the black and claim some sort of benefit, or even better, both !

Sue said...

If these were families, I would sympathise alot more but they are mainly fit young men!

They should go back to their own countries and join the army (soldiers there get paid, don't they). That way they are fighting for the freedom of their own people and perhaps we'd be able to get our troops out!

Eurotraveller par excellence said...

"I heard a grenouille minister on the BBC WS tell us this morning that the problem was that the UK was not a member of the Schengen agreement. So the problem in a nutshell is that we don't have border control".

Surely not? As I understand it the Schengen agreement opened all the borders in Europe which is why no passports are needed to travel around from country to country. Maybe he was referring to control of his own borders?

Britain refused to sign up, thereby retaining pre-existing control of our borders - which is why you need to show your passport every time you come back in.

The problem is that these perfectly effective controls are no longer properly enforced.

Newgates Knocker said...

Did you hear how many times the news agenda referred to these young men as "children" I did not see any Children in the report, maybe there were some but the whole thing seemed to be filmed to play on peoples sentimentality, How many I wonder were saying they were 14, when in fact they were nearer 19. This happens so much. you see it in the care system, unaccompanied miners get much, much, better treatment you see! strapping lads with full facial hair, being placed in foster families as 13 and 14 year olds (no papers, no proof!)Medical assessment to determine age (no chance, against their human rights!) I see we are already being asked to take these "children" into the country.
It stinks very badly!!

AngryDave said...

I saw reporters talking to those 'people' about why they wanted to go to the uk. The answer they all gave was "because we will get given more in the uk".

If they do not seek asylum in the first safe country they reach, then quite simply they are not asylum seekers. hese people are coming to the uk for a reason. I believe the real objective is to weeken our country via the economy. We are stretched fighting a war half a world away, and these people are damaging our economy from the inside.
The goal is to conquer the uk by breeding us out and by converting or killing everyone else. And, the politically correct diversity brigade are playing right into their hands. We have been disarmed by the government, and we are monitored and controled using laws that were brought in to protect us from terrorism.

AngryDave said...

These are not families trying to come in, it is an army of young men. I saw no women or children in the news pictures.
The general public would be very suprised at the number of young arab and somali men who have birthdays of the 1st Jan 199? who are blatantly in their 20's and 30's that currently in the juvennile prison system. Many of these have an 'interest' in extremism, and are constantly trying to convert others to islam.

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