Sunday, 6 September 2009

Harrow Mosque, 11th September, 17:00


THE POLICE HAVE APPROVED THIS DEMONSTRATION AND WILL PROVIDE A FENCED OFF AREA FOR IT

Please attend this demonstration, bring a couple of friends, colleagues or acquaintances so that they can learn about Islamisation.

If you definitely cannot attend then persuade someone you know to do so, especially if they live in London.

STOP ISLAMISATION demonstration outside of Harrow central mosque on Friday 11th September at 17.00.

BANNED FROM PROTEST

1. As with previous SIOE demonstrations, political parties are banned.

2. Any racist chanting, banners and placards will result in immediate ejection of the perpetrators from the demo.

3. Totalitarian symbols such as nazi swastikas, communist hammer and sickles, Islamic star and crescent, UNLESS CLEARLY CROSSED OUT OR DEFACED WITH A STOP SIGN.

APPROVED FOR PROTEST

1. Approved anti-sharia and anti-Islamisation chants, banners and placards will be permitted.

2. English, Welsh, Scottish, N. Irish, national flags, European national flags, certain other national flags will be permitted and encouraged.

3. Certain other flags representing communities struggling against Islamic colonisation such as Papua New Guinea and Biafra will be permitted.

4. Certain civil rights flags, banners and placards will be encouraged provided they are displayed within the no-sharia context of the demonstration.

5. ALL MUST BE APPROVED BY THE ORGANISERS BEFORE THE PROTEST

Speakers using hand held megaphones will address the gathering. Names of speakers will be provided to the police prior to the demonstration. Speeches must be approved by the organisers.

Approved groups such as the English Defence League, British Citizens Against Muslim Extremists, March for England, For a Democratic and Secular Iran, will join the demonstration and the police will be notified as to which groups will attend as soon as such participation has been confirmed.

Stewards will be provided. Banners, placards and speeches will be shown to the police prior to the protest starting if requested.

Demonstration finishes 19.00 11th September 2009

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47 comments:

Shug Niggurath said...

It's kind of depressing that they need to list so many do's and dont's. Knowing it's to reduce any ammunition the 'no platform' fuckwits will use, it's an indictment of just how much of a foothold the righteous have in this country.

Dick the Prick said...

I love the banner, it's simple yet precise, beautifully constructed Sooooo err... freedom is terrorism eh? Err.... only if you're a bloody terrorist moron.

You should run a comp for daftest banner award. Soz man, live up t'north otherwise would definately be there packing canvas & paints. It's kinda sweet really.

The Economic Voice said...

I have told you before OH........all these revolutionary exercises need to come closer to Wales...I have already instigated an act of treason by abstaining from sex with sheep so you can hardly say I am not making an effort this end.

Good post there.....

A.B. Gordon said...

You will get a surprise constable.

bluebell said...

Why don't the police ban their demonstration i.e. freedom of expression, to prove them wrong...errr?

bofl-too lazy to sign in! said...

i wonder how that bloke manages to sign on looking like that?

fuck the west-but do it in the freedom of letting us pay for you!

suigmypiel said...

OT - This is a worthy cause
http://tinyurl.com/mbkyvz

Reimer said...

" kind of depressing that they need to list so many do's and dont's. Knowing it's to reduce any ammunition the 'no platform' fuckwits will use, it's an indictment of just how much of a foothold the righteous have in this country."

My thoughts precisely. Yes, this is a free country...as long as your freedom licence is paid and up to date, bearing all the correct stamps and you exercise your freedom quota in the ways you are directed to do.

Dazed and Confused said...

How can we understand the term "Freedom" in the purest sense of the word. Like This Perhaps? it's pretty Interesting stuff.

Old Holborn said...

suigmypiel

A VERY worthy cause. I will blog it.

LINK

Newgates Knocker said...

In my local paper, three guys all named Mohammed were jailed for their part in a large racially motivated riot in Oxford (between Indians and Muslims)Don't think that made the national news. It's starting to break down in all the big cities, isn't it!

Anonymous said...

"A.B. Gordon, 06 September 2009 17:56

You will get a surprise constable."

Why's that McEgan ? Are you going to try and slip him a length whilst his backs turned, perhaps ?

I'm sure you'll be in Harrow on the 11th to show your support for your Muslim 'brothers' won't you, McEgan ?

You Dhimmi prick !

A.B. Gordon said...

Anon 17.56 Yes my ticket is booked (not under Gordon of course). You are several aliases behind Baglady. Still telling all at the Torygraph you are in Dubai (but actually claiming DSS in Peterborough) you Walter Mitty cunt! Yestreen I went to buy some grub and plod standing there (dozy fuckers, the only good ones are dead ones). Warrant out for me since last May. Not very bright are they! Now fuck off back to Seig Heiling you wheelchair bound wanker! Victory 09!

BritishMuslimSurgeon said...

Iam from Harrow. The banner above is provocative and has nothing at all to do with Harrow muslims or the mosque. Most Harrow muslims are totlally integrated into the society that they are a part of and serve as doctors, nurses, lawyers, shopkeepers, bus drivers etc. If you do go there on friday you will see people leaving the mosque after aving prayed during their lunch breaks on their way back to work serving the community at large. I for one was born at Northwick Park hospital down the road, went to a local state school, worked hard and got into Oxford. I now work as a surgeon in Essex serving a largely white population! Why shouldn't I or my family have the right to pray in a well built place of worship? Rallying to boost your egos or to perpetuate blind agression to destroy civility is not English or British behaviour, how ironic!

Old Holborn said...

BritishMuslimSurgeon

You have no blog, and only I have ever looked at your profile.

You are not what you say you are.

FAIL

BritishMuslimSurgeon said...

I am exactly who I say, check out my book: surgical oncology published by oxford university press. The fact remains that you are trying to raise vituperative attacks against law abiding people going about their business, I would have no real problem with your angst against those who carry placards saying behead this person or that person, but you should have enough intelligence to recognise that hard working people who obey the laws of the land who have a different faith should not need to feel that your motley crew are going to cause them trouble.

Old Holborn said...

Not true.

Hard working people who follow the law of the land and practice whatever faith they choose need have no fear.

I will be the first to defend them ALL, regardless of colour or creed.

The British have done so for centuries.

As you will see from this blog, I am no friend of ANY religion nor am I a friend of Nationalists, whether they be "English" or "Israelis". It is all an insult to my freedom.

The trials of Protestants, Jews, Catholics (almost) and others who want to destroy me because I am not one of "them" has stopped. They were told to leave me alone.

With Muslims, it has barely begun. God knows how many have to die before they get the message.

Old Holborn said...

PS. As a student of oncology, you will know that not all mutations succeed, and will know that not all mutations kill the host.

But some do.

Questioning the validity of a "mutation" is normal procedure to protect the host, surely?

Surely the host has the right to ask:

"Benign or malignant"?

I see Islam as a tumour (just as all other religions). Now I need to work out if it is going to kill me.

BritishMuslimSurgeon said...

You see the problem is your conflation of the ideas that practicing muslim=existentialist threat to all things British as a result you have chosen to trumpet this particular cause which perhaps for you may merely be a symbol of your general stance but will have a direct impact on the lives of law abiding people like myself,my family and friends. Why should I have to suffer that? The Harrow mosque is a fine institutio that hasbeen there for 35 years and is part and parcel of the fabric of Harrow. The population it serves are largely derived from those who migrated in the 1950s and 60s when the UK was in great need of manpower and acquired this from its ex-colonies. My father migrated at that time, my grandfather had served in the survey of India as a mathematician/cartographer and mapped the North West frontier province. One of my uncles in Pakistan had been in Royal Air Force in the 1940s. We are all practcing muslims who wish to pray in our mosque in peace, and really don't need agitators to come along and tell us we have some intefrating to do! I am sure the thought of integrating me and my ilk into society would never cross your mind whilst your about to be anaesthesised or are satisfied after an emergency operation, yet even I have put up with the agression you are promoting when I am not specifically identified as a member of a useful profesion wen in public, a bit of a dichotomy dont you think! Perhaps you could just be a little smarter than the general diatribe on the net...

BritishMuslimSurgeon said...

Talking of mutations, sequence the whole genome at your leisure but it really is futile to promote the self consumption of cytotoxic drugs when the mass of tissue you may consider potentially malignant may simply represent metaplastic tisue! The problem is flooding your system with cytotoxic agents may result in multi-organ failure after a protracted period of morbidity.

Old Holborn said...

Sir (see that?),

I thank you for your considered and articulate response.

Firstly, I have travelled widely throughout India, Pakistan and Kashmir and would not consider myself ignorant, though others may choose to do so.

I do not ask you not to be a Muslim - that is your free choice (I hope) and will support your choice to my last breath, but I ask Islam not to restrict my choices. Something it appears unable to do - please advise otherwise, as I drink a pint of bitter.

I have no problem with Muslims as I have no problem with Christianity or Judaism. But when they start spilling innocent blood, all religions have my FULL attention.

Islam, currently, has my FULL attention


Why is that, do you think?

BritishMuslimSurgeon said...

You see the essential point remains unchanged,you are free to drink your pint of bitter in this land,indeed i would be happy to investigate your deranged liver function should the need arise. I would even see you in the middle of the night and perform a laparoscopic(key hole) repair on your perforated stomach, leaving you with only tiny scars rather than a long central cut, should the need arise. I would do that irrespective of whether or not your voice helps to raise the rabble against me, whilst I get on with my civil, engaged life. It would however, be civil for you to target your angst apropriately and leave me in peace....to pray in my mosque.

Kinderling said...

MuslimBritishSurgeon,

Self-poisoning is for some people the only way they will wake up from their suffering. To nearly crash the plane to find a reason to pull up at the last moment and take control of their lives. I give them that right.

Self-numbing is for people whose lives are complicit rather than complacent, controlled by the State from cradle to grave.

A Russian survives thru copious vodka. A Mulsim survives by smoking. They block out the hypnosis of Stalinism and Mohammedism respectively. You don't see a suicide bomber with a fag in his hand. He's got a different denial to go to that of the Orthodox one. He's the one who chickens out and thinks what's this rubbish of virgins in the bush being more than in the hand?

So Puritans have to remove every competitor: religions, theatre, schools, vices any distraction from their righteous way.

And then you watch their children squrim and struggle. These dictators hold their eyes wide open so the only escape from the horror is into becoming one of them, the bully, the Stockholm Syndrome. Zealots are inverts. Inverted people who gave in to pressure and are attached to the outward identity of the pressure monger. Deceivers and Cowards: brave before the weak and weak before the strong. Lying when it suits. Intollerant of those who see them for who they are. Socialists, Homosexuals, and Muslims (fascists) the dysfunctional family fascinated by each other by playing Mother, Child and Father. Holding onto brittle images, using lawfare wherever they can.

This is why so many Mohammedans smoke tobacco and dope and we get "Moderate Muslims". I'm sure Mohammed would have made this haram, but he died before the potato got to Mecca.

Meanwhile the Libertarian is dreaming of relaxed drug laws because he smokes - because he enjoys it - and anyway can leave it whenever he wants to, but he doesn't want to. ... We're screwed.

BritishMuslimSurgeon said...

Old Holborn:

'I have no problem with Muslims as I have no problem with Christianity or Judaism. But when they start spilling innocent blood, all religions have my FULL attention.

Islam, currently, has my FULL attention


Why is that, do you think?'

Leave us in peace and count the uncounted inocents. Raising the rabble will introduce a new set of inocents to the quagmire, like the old man killed outside a mosque in South London just yesterday.

BritishMuslimSurgeon said...

I think in the interest of our common humanity it is imperative that all of us agree on a few fundamental things: to kill, harm or terrorise any inocent civilian is abhorent. The politics can never be as important as the suffering of the individual. To date in the history of man the greatest death and suffering endured by civillians has been as a result of the US, British and Germans during the second world war: 50 million dead. The mass evacuations and killings of Stalin in the USSR (20 million) and Mao in China (45 million). In the last 3 decades by far the largest number of civillian deaths have been caused by the US (Amnesty International). As for Israel it has on average caused 10 times the number of civillian deaths it has suffered. The suffering of an individual human is the suffering of an individual human, period, let us not be blinkered. As for the picture, the small motley crew of around 100 or so extremists who turned out for the picture in question never represented Islam and Muslims at large, just as the Ku Klux Klan, Neo-Nazis or perhaps the likes of Baruch Goldstein represent members of their religous or ethnic 'tribes'. What is clear however from the comments above is the latent xenophobia that individuals feel they are happy to express when the 'lynch mob' gathers. Leave us to pray in peace at Harrow mosque and fight your war by proxy elsewhere.

Kinderling said...

"The mass evacuations and killings of Stalin in the USSR (20 million) and Mao in China (45 million)".

Islam has killed far more in the name of Mohammed "who will rid me of this man?" Akbar. http://www.answeringislam.info/Green/assassins.htm

BritishMuslimSurgeon said...

I am a little puzzled by your response as your assertion that 'islam has killed far more in the name of Mohammed' is not supported by evidence and the link talks about 3 individuals. Systematic killing by total war only came into fruition in the 20the century, hence the level of killings in the 2 world wars and conventional bombings (largely by the US thereafter. As for the wording 'Islam has killed' would you equally say, 'atheism has killed' or 'secularism has killed' or even 'occidentalism' has killed. The problem once again is a highly simplistic analysis on your part Kinderling, ana analysis that fails to recognise plurality and the individual. I was also a little disappointed that your article in which you go to lengths to explain how Ghaza isn't quite as densely populated as some in the media may indicate, failed to recognise the suffering of the individuals killed, according to the Jerusalem post, Between 1,166 and 1,417 Palestinians and 13 Israelis were killed.

BritishMuslimSurgeon said...

I do apologise Kinderling, it was Shug Niggurath's blog. Apologies.

Kinderling said...

MuslimBritishSurgeon,

The core of Islam is corrupt: Mohammed with his sugar mommy, and when she died the interfering little child Aisha and his countless rapes. People marry for convenience to disguise their deprevity.

Millions died, and are dying today in the name of this paedeophile's conquests. There is no perfect world because the world was not perfect in the warped conscience of Mohammed.

Read what ex-muslims reveal at www.faithfreedom.org They are free indeed.

BritishMuslimSurgeon said...

Kinderling

How sad that instead of dealing with the specifics of the points I have raised above you find it necessary to hurl abuse at the prophet Mohammed and his family. Aisha the daughter of Abu Bakr was honoured to have married the Prophet and developed through her life to become a revered independent scholar of Islam at a time at which women in Europe were considered the property of their husbands, indeed as I expect you know women did not even have the right to own property of their own in England until the late 19th century. Deal with the issues above and quit your diversions. By the way the name is BritishMuslim Surgeon. I am aware of the various councils of ex-muslims and what they have to say. I am well aware of Ibn Warraq, you may wish to plaster his posts here! Austin Dacey is also a personal acquaintance, who accepted much of what I have said above. The essential point remains the same if a muslim living peacefully in this land, wishes to pray in a mosque a rabble should not prevent him from doing so.

Anonymous said...

"I think in the interest of our common humanity it is imperative that all of us agree on a few fundamental things: to kill, harm or terrorise any inocent civilian is abhorent."

Do you speak out and protest when imams in UK mosques encourage the faithful to kill the infidels as the Prophet Mohammad has instructed them to do? Do you write these "holy" men letters of chastisement? Do you publish letters in the newspaper?

Anonymous said...

to anonymous,

the prophet mohammad did not instruct the faithful to kill infidels!
Its pointless trying to talk to people like you because you're bottom line is your facile need to tell muslims like me ( 20 years of studying islam) what islam really is based on a few murdoch press clippings, and scraps from answering islam ( and i've met keith small the preacher instrumental in setting up answering islam and his total study of islam to date was 6 months of modules at his evangelical college in america ha ha!)

you are not going to tell me what islam is about you moron! That would be like taking african american studies classes with the klu klux klan.

you all need to grow up.

BritishMuslimSurgeon said...

"I think in the interest of our common humanity it is imperative that all of us agree on a few fundamental things: to kill, harm or terrorise any inocent civilian is abhorent."

Anonymous said 'Do you speak out and protest when imams in UK mosques encourage the faithful to kill the infidels as the Prophet Mohammad has instructed them to do? Do you write these "holy" men letters of chastisement? Do you publish letters in the newspaper?'

Kinderling, anon 1: You just don't get it do you. Read the text I have written and accept it as my postion, the position of a practicing muslim from Harrow, with esentially the same position as the other believers you may meet if you turn up with the rabble tomorrow. My faith instructs me to speak out against anyone who seeks to kill innocents, and I do! My letter against the July, 7th bombers was published in the guardian the next day: check it out and correlate my name with my book title mentioned above! As a Muslim Londoner, I have been to Harrow mosque and many others for years and hae never come across an imam telling me to 'go and kill' as you put it. As far as I am aware, both I and many of the muslims I know have saved a great number of lives however! Can you say the same? As for cnstantly talking about 'Islam' killing millions continuously around the world, stop being so simplistic, look at the conflicts, their origins: usually geopolitical and count the numbers of combatants and civillians killed on all sides, I urge you to seek your information from independent sources. It seems that despite your rhetoric, individual innocents don't really concern you! Muslims detest the likes of Al-Qaeda becase they have contravened a fndamental principle of Islam to protect th innocent, period. Leave us to pray, have a dialogue with me and hold the rabble, that is where civility lies.

Old Holborn said...

Would you care to name ONE Muslim country where there is not unrest?

Field Marshall Watkins said...

I'd like a Muslim to point out ONE passage in the koran that calls for Muslims to live in peace with non Muslims in perpetuity.

...

If I was to only listen to what Muslims and the lefty media say about Islam, I would find myself very confused. There seems to be a big discrepancy between the Peace peace peace waffle that Muslims say, and I don't know, Chapter 9 of the Koran? Oh, and let us not forget the proven continuity of violence by Muslims against non-Muslims throughout the whole of Islamic history.

I mean, if Islam is so peaceful, where are these other Muslims getting the koranic justifications for violence and 'spreading Islam by the sword'. You know, Dar el-harb to dar el-Islam and all that. The holy duty of all Muslims.

BritishMuslimSurgeon said...

Old Holborn, Kinderling, Field Marshall. In order for this to be a logical meaningful dialogue it is essential that if I respond to your assertion by providing you with evidence to the contrary then you should consider that information and perhaps respond to that before moving the proverbial goal post. The fact that you continue to move the goal post would suggest that you have already entered into a definitive 'belief' which you feel cannot be challenged despite the evidence: not particularly enlightened I must say. There are numerous examples from the Quran and the life of the prophet realting to kindness with non-muslims EVEN when muslims are being abused as a minority or when there are non muslims living within a muslim majority (a Dhimmi: non-muslim citizen) The Prophet is reported to have said: "He who hurts a Dhimmi hurts me, and he who hurts me annoys Allah." (Reported by At-Tabarani in Al-Awsat with good chain of narrators.). The issue at hand here is not really what a non-muslim's non-contextual interpretation of the sources is but rather the interpretation of muslims and how that affects their practice. A full discussion of the evidences is beyond the scope of this blog although I could give you a reading list should you desire one. I have alluded to muslim practice and my beliefs vis a vis, innocents and non-muslims and civility above yet you still wish to suggest that this is contrary to your understanding of Islam, well. Ultimately all that counts here is the consesnus of mainstream muslim scholastic opinion and practice based on the sources which consistently calls for peace and civility. As for the assertion that Islam has a continual history of violence towards non-muslims, I question your reading of history and advise you to consider the conviviality of Andalucia, the peace in the holy land for centuries following the crusades when expelled jews and levantine christians returned to live with muslims until the renewal of disruption and ethnic cleansing during the British mandate period and thereafter. The continued presence of ancient christian communities throughout the levant bear testament to this. Where are the ancient muslim communities of Spain? The inquisition, so celebrated in the fiesta of Spain and South America took care of them! I would suggest you read: The case for Islamo-christian civilisation by Bulliet as an introduction, that is if you actually have an open mind that is not completely tempered by snippets from the excitable media, evangelical websites written by rapture ready writers or the likes of Daniel Pipes who have a different agenda altogether. As for Old Holborn's question, I would be happy to provide you with a list as long as you could provide me with a definition of 'unrest'. Peace to all!

Field Marshall Watkins said...

The issue at hand here is not really what a non-muslim's non-contextual interpretation of the sources is but rather the interpretation of muslims and how that affects their practice.

Are you saying that a non-Muslim interpretation of Islam is void? And I agree that a Muslims interpretation is important. That is the point of Muslims holding up placards saying 'death to those who insult Islam.'

That isn't a very peaceful interpretation is it, nor is the worldwide Muslim outrage at stupid little things like those Danish cartoons. That is what people get concerned about. Or when Halal meat is forced on secular primary schools.

Another point you make is there are verses of peace in the Koran. So what, there are many, many verses advocating violence towards non-Muslims, and let us not forget the principle of abrogation, which would put Chapter 9 as Muhammad's final verses. And everyone knows that Chap 9 is a literal declaration of war on the non-Muslim world.

I'm not interested in picking some peaceful verse Mohammad said in the beginning of his religion. I'm interested in his calls for global Islamic conquest through any means necessary, as his attitude at the Battle of Medina would indicate along with the categorisation of dar al-harb.

While in Mecca, though he condemned paganism (for the most part), Muhammad showed great respect for the monotheism of the Christian and Jewish inhabitants. Indeed, the Allah of the Quran claimed to be the same God worshipped by Jews and Christians, who now revealed himself to the Arab people through his chosen messenger, Muhammad. It is the Quranic revelations that came later in Muhammad's career, after he and the first Muslims left Mecca for the city of Medina, that transformed Islam from a relatively benign form of monotheism into an expansionary, military-political ideology that persists to this day.

Old Holborn said...

BMS

Should your mind be changed, and you relinquish Islam for any other relgion or atheism, what then?

Kinderling said...

MuslimBritishSurgeon,

Ramadan is a time of brainwashing. It is not a Fast but a night turned into day and day turned into night. Starvation, little sleep and indoctrination in the Mosques.
On the day of Eid Muslims are let out and give every non-Muslim hell.

72 Virgins in Paradise - what perversion.

The Mohammedan is a coward to pressure and so acts with brittle sensitivity and bravado to appear like the man he is not. Strong before the weak, weak before the strong. They are even afraid among themselves that their wives will tempt every Muslim male. What a cult.

number 666 said...

Just wanted to add my two cents to this piece.

God know where you get your crap info from Kinderling. The line: "Ramadan is a time of brainwashing..." was typical of someone posting comments without any understanding of what your talking about.
Its ok. it happens.

You did however get one bit right.
"Starvation, little sleep... " and again failed with the comment "...and indoctrination in the Mosques"

Well done you! This time of the month is difficult enough without food and drink. However, it isnt just about that. It's about blowing up, raping and butchering every man, woman and chi ...

Aahhhh HAAAA !!
Got ya!

You think EVERY muslim is a brainwashed, war mongering, illiterate person who wants nothing but the destruction of every infidel. Well, the people that want that are hiding in a cave in Afghanistan and have nothing at all in common with me and our way of life.

Believe it or not, I, and most of the british muslims I know (and probably hundreds, nay thousands, of asians/muslims out there too) cower there heads in shame when they see a bunch of un-educated fellas on TV saying "Death to XXXX"


So please, pretty please with sugar on top. Get your fu***** facts right.
We hate seeing these idiots on TV making a mockery of this country and giving us a bad name.

I mean, we already have people like you doing it dont we.

peace.

Kinderling said...

Muslim 666,
I know every Muslim is a Mohammedan-Dhimmi trying to make everyone else into a Dhimmi so that they can't see themselves as a Dhimmi. A very basic psychology of self-justification.
Christians are informed to repent, Mulsims are outformed to believe. Sadly the Liberal churches have also taught tranference to their Super Christ or Super Maddona to save them so have no idea of their potential to think and do for themselves. Even the Libertarian thinks that by doing stupid like smoking pot is an act of freedom when it is an act of denial of addiction.
The corruption of the church has meant no resistance to your corruption entering Britain. You see our paedophiles in government and priesthood (using the same tactic as you use on us) by telling us we're the paedophiles, we're the dhimmi. Homosexuals like Mandlson see themselves as the Elite, that what he does is an art-form, and like ignorant muslims are sacrificed for the glory of Islam, ignorant paedophiles are sacrificed for the cause. There is a hierarchy in hell's army.
Muhammad was the Michael Jackson of his time. An excellent psychological profile of him has recently been written by an Ex-Muslim Ali Sina.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Understanding-Muhammad-Ali-Sina/dp/0980994802
Do purchase it, but please keep safe from being honor killed by your brethren.
I hope to meet you on the other side of your brain.

number666 said...

Kinderling,

You want me to purchase a book of completely biased opinions? And you call that an excellent psychological profile? That says a lot about you.

You really must learn to read from more authoritative writers and historians like Karen Armstrong etc rather than reading from someone who has an agenda already.

Oh, on a side note, im a muslim and I haven't made anyone into a muslim yet or even considered it.
So your wrong again.

You must like making a fool of yourself.

Old Holborn said...

I notice that after pouring billions into Aceh after the Tsunami, they have now decided that stoning people to death is the best way to spend the money.

Progressive Islam at work

Anonymous said...

And I just finished reading in the dhimmi newspaper yesterday about progressive Indonesia, what a model Muslim country it now is ...

Anonymous said...

@666,

"You want me to purchase a book of completely biased opinions?"

And who better to listen to than one who was there and experienced it and now is free. You can taste the freedom in what he writes at the beginning of his website:

"'As I would not be a slave, so I would not be a master. This expresses my idea of democracy. Whatever differs from this, to the extent of the difference, is no democracy.' Abraham Lincoln

Thereupon I concluded: As I would not be a dhimmi, so I would not be a Muslim. Ali Sina"

And he has freed many many others from this dark and mind-numbing belief-system. If there is a God, I believe he is well-pleased with this man Ali Sina.

The truth hurts. Wake up! Islam is the most dysfunctional, destructive, arrogant, oppressive belief-system there is and millions are duped slaves to it.

Kinderling said...

Karen Armstrong:"In every single one of the Major World faiths, compassion the abilty to 'feel' with the other... is... not only the test of any true religiosity, it is also what will bring us into the Presence what Jews, Christians and Muslims call God or the Devine".
So fledgeling Jews did not kill in the Name of Yaweh/Jehovah every man woman and child unlucky to be living in Israel, Muslims did not conquor to submission in the Name of Allah-and-his-side-kick the unlucky populations all around him, St Paul did not kill unlucky pagan souls so that Jesus became worshipped as God dispensating whaterver was asked for. All using "compassion" put women last.
These stupid, stupid liberal Dhimmis keep popping up telling other religions what they mean.

Anonymous said...

DEFEND HARROW’S DIVERSE & UNITED COMMUNITY
“Stop the Islamisation of Europe” and the
“English Defence League” a group of racist
football hooligans with links to the fascist
BNP are threatening to invade Harrow on
Sunday December 13th to demonstrate
against the Harrow Central Mosque. We
cannot stand by and let these racists attack
any section of our community. An injury
to one is an injury to all.

Islamophobia - bigotry against Muslims - is
as unacceptable as any other form of
racism. Its aim is to divide us by making
scapegoats of one community as the Nazis
did with the Jews in the 1930s. Today they
threaten the mosque, tomorrow it could be a
synagogue, temple or church. Today they
threaten Muslims, tomorrow it could be
Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, blacks, gays, travellers
or any other minority.

Fascists have been beaten before by
people standing united against them: at
Cable Street in the 1930s, Lewisham in the
1970s and in Derbyshire this Summer where
black and white, young and old, Hindu,
Christian, Muslim and Jew, gay and straight
all came together to oppose the BNP’s
fascist rally. In September we made it clear
that these thugs are not welcome in
Harrow. Now we must make Harrow a
No-Go Zone for Nazis.

Please sign the statement of support for Harrow Central Mosque
Join the demonstration on Sunday December 13th
We are black, white, Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Sikh and Jew
Assemble 12 noon Sunday December 13th on the wide pavement
outside Harrow Civic Centre opposite the Central Mosque
Called by UAF Brent & Harrow ● uafbrentandharrow@googlemail.com and National UAF:
unite@ucu.org.uk ● www.uaf.org.uk ● PO Box 36871 London WC1X 9XT ● 020 7801 2782

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