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Saturday, 18 July 2009

Whoops!


It seems Amazon have been spying on their Kindle readers, watching them from afar they have.......

And they didn't approve of what they were reading either.......so they deleted the book from the Kindle service.

Which book? Hmmn, George Orwell's 1984..........

Some interesting comments from disgruntled Amazon readers HERE

UPDATE: Ayn Rand's book, Atlas Shrugged, has been removed too.

21 people love my throbbing organ:

JuliaM 18 July 2009 16:38  

That's why this e-book thing will never catch on...

Just try coming in and removing my hard copy, Amazon!

Sue 18 July 2009 16:55  

One commenter also says they did the same to Ayn Rand's book. Curiouser and curiouser....

Just download them from a torrent site!

Sod the establishment.

Fuck Big Brother,  18 July 2009 17:07  

Sue, absolutely correct. Sod big business and sod the establishment.

Oldrightie 18 July 2009 17:07  

Sod the establishment.

They do a lot of that sort of thing for themselves, Sue.

VotR 18 July 2009 17:28  

Looks like Waterstones won't be going out of business then.

Anonymous,  18 July 2009 18:05  

Glad i haven't got a Kindle yet. After this, I won't bother. It's a bit akin to music being taken off my iPod by Apple - I wouldn't be happy & probably wouldn't deal with them again. Curious the books they've removed. Presumably that's amazon.co.uk - what about .com? Removal by govt request as 'seditious literature'? Conspiracy theory or truth?

Leg-iron 18 July 2009 18:11  

All my books are printed so they're immune to computer failure and also free from remote scanning of my collection.

From the comments, it seems Amazon can just delete a book from the Kindle whenever it's linked up.

If they can do that, they can also replace a book with an 'amended' text.

I'll stick with ink and paper.

Chris,  18 July 2009 18:16  

Before the conspiracy nuts go yabba-dabba-doo on this one.

It turns out that Orwell isn't public domain in the US, and that amazon's trading wing pogue had been offering the books for sale (lease?) without permission. One curt letter from the copyright holders later, Kindle copies go *poof*, refunds given, and links to legal copies on amazon sent out.

source

It's a copyright idiocy/DRM thing rather than a memory hole thing, but somewhere up there Orwell is laughing his ass off.

Agent Moselle 18 July 2009 22:14  

Atlas Shrugged is the most boring book I've ever tried to read. But 1984 is pretty good...

Man in the Street 18 July 2009 22:17  

Chris - you can't disagree that torrents are easier though surely.

Taranis 18 July 2009 22:20  

Yes, it does seem to be a copyright issue but:

(a) It still seems big-brotherish for a company to be able to forcibly remove goods in your possession without your permission or even knowledge, and

(b) Sod the establishment anyway.

banned 18 July 2009 22:34  

Can't kindle users just move their D/L files to another location thus avoiding such PC burglary ?
I do that with stuff that I ( allegedly ) download.

Brocher 18 July 2009 23:05  

Can't kindle users (whatever they are) do what Goebel's orchastrated in 1936 (or whenever)?

WOuld solve all these pesky copyright issues.

caesars wife,  19 July 2009 00:10  

burn the books , wipe the data store its the same idea , they hate orwell because he saw where the socilist struggle to define poverty and class would end in a totallitarian state , where you lost the ability to decide for your self.

Anonymous,  19 July 2009 00:44  

a taste of the book burning that will soon be with us - no i'm not kidding!

I also see Micro$oft has spyware in IE8, Google helping the Chinese to arrest and censor dissidents.

and this is just the start!

Wait untikl the NWO get total power starting with the lisbon treaty with the new name.

Fausty 19 July 2009 01:38  

Chris, scepticism is healthy. It provides balance to the perceived status quo.

Rogerborg 19 July 2009 09:40  

>It still seems big-brotherish for a company to be able to forcibly remove goods in your possession

Most likely the "goods" - the nwo useless encrypted data - are still on the kindles, and what Amazon has done is revoke the decryption keys.

Rogerborg 19 July 2009 09:41  

^^^
nwo -> now

Sorry, I've got New World Order on the brain. Can someone please put Snotgobbler out of our misery?

Anonymous,  19 July 2009 11:47  

here we go

Anonymous,  19 July 2009 13:08  

If you are stupid enough to use a Kindle, you deserve what you get. Being computer literate is a must in today's world, and computer literate people do not use any device that has DRM in it.

What is 'DRM'? USE GOOGLE.

Anonymous,  20 July 2009 10:28  

This is a nonsense post. You can still buy a number of paper copies of 1984 from Amazon, so fuck knows what the conspiracy is about.

Chris

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