Let's not rejoice until they dismantle the databases.The Penguin
The scheme is being transfered to passports instead.It is an agreement supposedly with the USA not the EU, just part of globalisation/slavery. They will hit you from different angles with the same bullshit.
I feel happy for a change.But they are still bastards for putting us through the grinder in the first place. Roll on voting day.
The Penguin said... Let's not rejoice until they dismantle the databases.The Penguin30 June 2009 16:38The database(s) cannot be dismantled for the following reasons : 1) Clarke (of Charles fame) had to back off from Blunkett's "gold standard brand shiny shiny new all-singing all- dancing single database with ne'er an error on't" and instead cobble together feeds from the DWP databases and the Passport (oops, sorry "Identity and Passport") service. So the structure as of today involves databases that have established uses elsewhere, which cannot be undid. And 2) the "actual" ID card database (hooking the others together with a UUID) is still an opium dream, and so cannot be un-smoked.But the sentiment is sound nonetheless - the press are all over the, ahem, "climbdown", over compulsory cards. Johnson studiously avoided mention of the vastly more insidious NIR. And the sleuths of Fleet Street let him off that hook, as they have done ever since this wretched scheme was a glint in Blair's eye.
If they're not compulsary then they're utterly pointless and should be totally scrapped.
What a shambles - it was only about 6wks ago Jacqui was singing its praises & touting for outlets on the High Street - article in the Times. I agree with other comments - let's see what happens to the d/base. I'd like to know what percentage of our taxes has been spent on these hideous IT projects.
Makes no difference to me, they'd have had to kill me first before I'd have an ID card and, as you say, that evil freedom fucking database ain't going nowhere.Cunts.
I loved the cunt Johnsons words "Not compulsory-like passports. Yup cos some of us wanna go further than Southend and jellied eels. We are winning. News of threats against the Masjid in Belfast. Try it, just fucking try it PSNI wankers.
FFS why don't they just give and call an election.
Mandy's manoeuver to make Johnson the good guy prior to his coronation next April.
As anon notes above they may very well scrap the compulsory ID cards but unless you plan on never leaving the UK you will still be required to provide the biometric data. This data will have to be on a database so it isn't much of a victory.
fuck me!for the 1st time in 12 years these hoons have actually done something sensible.........but- the past 12 years have also been full of announcements and lies-ie every time that uber hoon brown opens his gob!!!!so no rejoicing yet......if they hadnt invaded iraq and afghanistan then there wouldnt be a terrorist 'threat.'...........and i really doubt whether that really exists.remember the big plod raid in madchester with all guns blazing?????????all released without charges.......and finally i wonder why they announced this on the day when the economy is shown to be falling into a chasm deeper than the mariana trench?i hope they all get cancer.....
Bastard, I had about a dozen names ready.Trust them to spoil my fun.Cunts.
"Mr Johnson even admitted the suggestion the cards would help combat terrorism was exaggerated as he accepted the Government should never have allowed "the perception to go around that they were a panacea for terrorism"."Neither are 42 days detention, control orders, stop and search, RIPA, licences for this that and the other, PCSOs, CCTV, ANPR, airport carry on baggage restrictions, paramilitary squads and all the other panaceas they have deployed in an attempt to turn the UK into a panopticon.It all fails on the simplest of logic - determined perps don't abide by the rules.The NIR is just as pernicious. So too is the data sharing agreements Jack Staw (I think) brought into being. Have the Government removed innocent people's DNA from the database yet? With one sentence Mr. Johnson has spoken more honestly than many of his colleagues have for a decade.
bofl said... if they hadnt invaded iraq and afghanistan then there wouldnt be a terrorist 'threat.'...........yeah, right.If only President Bush hadn't used those enormous magnets in the World Trade Center, White House and Pentagon to drag those unsuspecting Arab pilot trainess into commercial airliners in order to go to war in Iraq to give the Chinese the right to run the Iraqi oil industry, then no Muslim in the whole world would be up to any harm.Except maybe for these guys...Peace
North Northwester...agree 100%. The mad muzzies need no excuse for their Jihad...just that non-muzzies exist is enough.I'd also like to warn against victory dances because the I.D. card is no longer "compulsory".Is it fuck.These New Labour social molesters will make it so you have to have one or your life will be nigh on unliveable.They will bring in tiny little "rules" that mean you can't even take a shit in a public toilet without showing your I.D. card.We will be bullied little by little until we all "accept" that we need one to live an ordinary hassle free life.The only reason they have lied about "scrapping" the scheme is because they need to do things to stop themselves being smashed to pieces in the next election.Above all, since when did New Labour start telling us the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth ? The evil fuckers will say and do anything in order to get a few votes.....remember the Lisbon referendum !
More to do with the cunts are skint, or more to the p[oint WE areskint
Wesley Groves - Thanks for the update. Do you have any NI news/comment/other links you could share. Can't see the London-based 'news' organisations touching this with a barge pole.Thanks again.wv: culamati - exactly
Now voluntary. Unless you want to travel, drive a car, have a bank account, claim benefits, borrow a library book, open a bank account, go to unversity, etc..Strange use of the word "voluntary" nothing has changed, except the meaning Labo chooses to give to some words today.
Well - I just went through Heathrow and they'd left the door to the "Passport" office open - walls festooned with posters forthe new IRIS scan identification system - didn't really pick up that these IRIS scan things are just for immigration use.......... Nah... these feckers aren't going to let go without a fight.
I give a semi hooray , still the nazis havent been kicked out of office , the cult of the ruin is still in power .however the words arse and elbow do spring to mind , what a waste of money !!
Dead in the water. With luck the Carpathian that is blogging will stand off, watch and break open the Champagne!
for north westerner.+bnp person:the u.s and the uk go around the globe making trouble.....ie cia,MI5 etc.........switzerland doesnt get attacked......wonder why?.no exxon? no halliburton? no rumsfield? no bush dynasty?the u.s 9/11 and the londom bombs may have been done by arab people-but the guiding hand behind it was/is far more sinister......++++++++++++++++#i also agree with the point about immigration........why do we let in people from a totally alien society?we do not mix-never have-never will....it took hundreds of years to rid the uk of religious lunacy..no need to import it again.........
Perhaps they should "Test Drive" them on MPs.No Expenses or Allowances to be claimed without an ID card.
Having recently been to France and back and discovered my passport expired several weeks before, I wouldn't be surprised if they rely on some other data, from my Eurotunnel account maybe?Either that or passport control in both countries really is piss poor.Here, I can understand, but I'm Johnny Frog is a tad more diligent.Maybe I'm wrong.
"I'm sure"is what I should have written. What a twat.
bofl for north westerner.+bnp person:the u.s and the uk go around the globe making trouble.....ie cia,MI5 etc.........THEY FLY ANY PASSENGER PLANES INTO OFFICE BLOCKS, BAG WOMEN'S' HEADS, CUT OFF THEIR CLITORISES, SWEAR PERMANENT GENOCIDAL WAR AGAINST THE JEWS OR ANY OTHER RACE, DO ANYTHING BUT MAKE MONEY AND GET EUROPE OUT OF ITS CIVIL WARS,AND HOLD THE GENOCIDAL SOVIET UNION AT BAY TILL IT COLLAPSES?switzerland doesnt get attacked......wonder why?.nO OPERATION OVERLORD, NO MARSHALL PLAN, NO BERLIN AIRLIFT,NO BILLIONS TO AFRICA, NO GIVING ALL THE SAT NAV DATA AWAY FOR FREE TO ANYONE WHO WANTS IT, no exxon? no halliburton? no rumsfield? no bush dynasty?NO GULAG, NO KILLING FIELDS, NO POL POT, NO SHINING PATH, NO MASS EXECUTIONS OR CHUMMY CHE GUEVARA TO ORDER THEM AND TO ENJOY THEM, NO INVADING KUWAIT, CHAD, POLAND, ROMANIA, BULGARIA, HUNGARY, FINLAND, LITHUANIA, LATVIA, ESTONIA, CZECHOSLOVAKIA, the u.s 9/11 and the londom bombs may have been done by arab people-AS THEY CLAIMED THE 'HONOUR' FOR THEMSELVES AND PROCLAIMED AT THE TIME AND ARE HEROES FOR IT THROUGHOUT THE MUSLIM WORLDbut the guiding hand behind it was/is far more sinister......YEP. IT WAS ALLAH; ACTING THROUGH HIS FAITHFUL FOLLOWERS.JUST LIKE THESE CHEERY CHAPPIES AL OVER THE WORLD AND MANY OF WHOM ARE NOWHERE NEAR ANY JEWS, AMERICANS BRITS...love
Maybe this was the writing on the wall:-............http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/30/eborders_eurostar/
northy old chap.....many of the alleged 9/11 attackers are actually still alive!!!!!imho most muslims are brainwashed.....from an early age they are indoctrinated.......scary i know-but in many lands if they do not want to be muslims then they are killed!i am in no way a supporter- but-the west has a barbaric past......as for our countries giving away money etc i think that you need to look at the hoons in charge here....letting in every tom dick and mustapha when the muslim umma is plain to see.......peace to you...
BOFL the West may have a barbaric past. However the important part of that is the past. The ideology of the "religion of peace" will guarantee the West has a bloody awful future. Islam in it's wahabist form does not coexist peacefully. You are either one of them or a second class citizen. Can you supply a link to substantiate the claim that the hijackers of 9/11 flights are still alive? Sorry but for me this falls into the same sphere as people wearing tin foil hats. Wake up and smell the cous cous.
Unless you want to travel, drive a car, have a bank account, claim benefits, borrow a library book, open a bank account, go to unversity, etc..Strange use of the word "voluntary" nothing has changed, except the meaning Labo chooses to give to some words today.Well put, Marksany. Seems to me just Alan Johnson pitching for the leadership. Apart from that, lying business as usual.
boflnorthy old chap.....many of the alleged 9/11 attackers are actually still alive!!!!!HOW DID THEY GET OUT OF THE PLANES, I WONDER?imho most muslims are brainwashed.....THAT'D BE THE RELIGIOUS EDUCATION ACCORDING TO KORAN HADITH AND SURAHfrom an early age they are indoctrinated.......scary i know-TRUEbut in many lands if they do not want to be muslims then they are killed!ASLO TRUE - POOR SODSi am in no way a supporter- but-the west has a barbaric past......YES, AND NOW WE TRY TO BE BETTER - IMPERFECT, BUT CF WATERBOARDING WITH THE IRON MAIDEN, CONCENTRATION CAMPS, DEATH CAMPS, THE STAKE AND FAGGOTS [ROUGH NIGHTCLUB, THAT...]as for our countries giving away money etc i think that you need to look at the hoons in charge here....END EU AID TO 'PALESTINE,' AGREED.END EU AID.END EU. letting in every tom dick and mustapha when the muslim umma is plain to see.......CAN'T ARGUE WITH THAT - THE DOOR NEEDS TO BE SLAMMED SHUT FOR A WHILE TILL WE ABSORB - AS WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE BEFORE - THE NEWCOMERS.
marksany - spot on! Those cunts lied about ID cards from the beginning & that cunt Johnson is lying still. No ID card maybe but all the Labour databases, all the biometric data? Think they're really going to let that go? NuLabour=lying fucking cunts, one & all.
i wouldnt trust a solialist more than 900 feet........which is about how far i could throw one from beachy head!ps http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/hijackers.html9/11........not organised by arabs!
BNP guido refugee said... I'd also like to warn against victory dances because the I.D. card is no longer "compulsory".Is it fuck.These New Labour social molesters will make it so you have to have one or your life will be nigh on unliveable.Like what he said and Marksany. Need a council License to operate or work in your business ? Get an ID card; need to access new Childrens Centres ? Get an ID card, voluntarily; want to change your GP ? Get an ID card. want to have your kids educated for free ? Get an ID card; buy or supply alcohol or tobacco ?...Fucking liars but, as John Miller pointed out it's about making Alan Johnson look as though he is on 'our' side, the cunt.
Man in the street-the demo about gypsies was well publicised (but poorly attended). I think there is a "sea change" in the offing. I am mega pissed off that the Umma are getting threatened. Its a quiet masjid.
As some others have said - so the CARDS will not be compulsory.So what? The CARDS were never the problem.The problem was the damned database, and that is unchanged.It's the usual NuLab smoke-and-mirrors read-the-small-print weaselling.Nothing has really changed.Nor will it under the Cameroons; it will turn out that we're obliged, under some so-far-unnoticed EU regulation, to run and maintain this database. Or maybe to supply all the data so that the colleagues can run their own.Nothing has changed. Rejoicing is premature.
fat chance.they are in reelection mode, the deluded twats.more chance of Al Bore shutting his big mouth.That loony Jacquie woman was out in Manc chester introducing them few months back
I'll believe that when the Bastards reppeal the ID Act. Until they do, forget it. If the bastards manage by some miracle to get re-elected the ID cards will be back on again!
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