Saturday, 23 May 2009

Lord of the Flies revisited.......

Guthrum this morning wonders whether we may already have undergone a military coup - I fret about our future at the hands of our children.

Our children, and our grandchildren, will certainly look back on these days with a profound and justified grievance.

We have stood by whilst all vestige of our democracy was trashed, and the reputation of our parliamentarians traduced - by themselves certainly - but reinforced by the notion that they cannot be trusted to add two and two and make five, nor understand the very rules and laws that we employ them to write, and thus must be overseen by non-elected apparatchiks appointed by the ruling clique.

We quietly acquiesce whilst a Chief Constable, and the Speaker of the House of Commons publicly defy the Rule of Law.

Our broadcasting media beam out press releases naming 'suspects' in a private investigation as though they had the authority of Parliament and the Home Office behind them.

Blogs written by parliamentarians are removed from the ether for daring to suggest (as I did myself some days ago - whoops!) that the secretive Barclay Brothers may have an agenda.

We have saddled them with an untold mountain of debt, which they must work to pay off whilst supporting our demographic bulge with its demands for stair lifts, carers and expensive medications.

It is with deep disquiet then that I note this

'Let Children Learn About Guns, says Countryside Alliance'.

National Shooting Week director Rob Gray said: Shooting teaches control, discipline, responsibility and courtesy – qualities to make every parent or head teacher proud.

Perhaps we should agree to this - at least if the feral rats can shoot straight we may be granted a merciful end.

OH Update: I have long campaigned for every reader to apply for a shotgun licence. Imagine the look on Plods face when he's asked by Brown to deal with 20 million gun owners


Voice of the Resistance said...

We are all fucked unless Britain can stop boozing and watching TV for 10 minutes. Then the whole population might be arsed to get together, march on Parliament and tear it down, brick by brick, throw MPs in jail where they belong and sling out the corrupt higher management in the police force.

And make Britain for the British.

Of course, that's probably when they will send the Apache helicopters in, but what's more important, the death of your beliefs of a just democracy, or the death of your being?

Anonymous said...

"It is with deep disquiet then that I note this press release: 'Let Children Learn About Guns, says Countryside Alliance'."

Presumably you are angry about the corrupt authoritarian state's constant war against private gun ownership? You must be pissed off that the law ensures that every criminal has a gun while every law abiding person is defenceless. You must be frustrated that the loony Lefties are so blinded by their "gun control" dogma that they are unable to think clearly about the issue.

Well, I agree completely. The CA have had some bad press, but if you think about it, that's only because they have consistently opposed New Labour authoritarianism. Good on them.

woman on a raft said...

I'm not bothered about children learning about guns. They always used to, and they didn't seem half so prone to shooting themselves or knifing each other in those days.

What I don't want is them teaching themselves about guns - they do much better under proper guidance. It's only another machine.

Things seem to have got considerably worse since the gun control brought in after the Dunblane killings. It was a knee-jerk reaction which suited the police as it deflected attention from their failure to act on complaints about Hamilton which might have prevented the whole tragedy.

Cullen soft-soaped the police role in that failure of duty.

electro-kevin said...

Why any talented young person should want to remain in Britain ...

(or any talented older person for that matter !)

Ampers said...

Voice of the Resistance said.: "We are all fucked unless Britain can stop boozing and watching TV for 10 minutes."I have introduced, from next Tuesday, that, apart from Sky News at lunchtime, we will watch no TV all day. In addition, as we both have computers, the computers will be turned off at 6:00pm.

Not sure whether it will turn out the way I want it, or whether I can impose my authority if SWMBO rebels, but I am going to give it a serious try. :-)

I am hoping it will work and the next step will be to extend it to Thursdays and then Sundays and if we discover all the things we used to do, then eventually move to get rid of TV altogether. But not computers :-)

As for guns, this is an excellent idea. The Swiss, who hold more guns per capita than the US, have gun fairs travelling the country where children as young as twelve learn gun discipline. And that is a pretty safe place to live, probably with the lowest murder rate of any country.

From the age of thirteen I used to ride out into the veldt (bush) for a weekend, killing my supper, skinning and cooking it. I was taught by an old Afrikaans farmer how to respect firearms, and also never to kill for fun. And I never have.


JD said...

I learned to shoot as a child, and I still haven't shot a fellow human being.
We all need to bear arms. At the moment we have no means to defend ourselves - the only people with guns are criminals, the police (spot the difference?) and the armed forces who answer to our corrupt manure government. Do you feel safe with this arrangement, or would you prefer to be able to defend yourself? JD.


Angry Exile said...

What JD said. I'd go further and suggest that teaching children to shoot and handle guns safely at a fairly early age can help teach responsibility, and that's something seriously fucking lacking in the last couple of decades.

Harri dib fucking dib said...

What like this !

Published on Thursday, May 14, 2009 by The New York Times
A Different Kind of Boy Scout: Armed and Fighting Terrorism
For Explorer Scouts, Good Deeds Have Whole New Meaning
by Jennifer Steinhauer
IMPERIAL, Calif. - Ten minutes into arrant mayhem in this town near the Mexican border, and the gunman, a disgruntled Iraq war veteran, has already taken out two people, one slumped in his desk, the other covered in blood on the floor.

In a training exercise run by Border Patrol agents, Explorer scouts from Visalia, Calif., prepare to storm a “hijacked” bus. (Todd Krainin for The New York Times)The responding officers - eight teenage boys and girls, the youngest 14 - face tripwire, a thin cloud of poisonous gas and loud shots - BAM! BAM! - fired from behind a flimsy wall. They move quickly, pellet guns drawn and masks affixed.

"United States Border Patrol! Put your hands up!" screams one in a voice cracking with adolescent determination as the suspect is subdued.

It is all quite a step up from the square knot.

The training, which leaders say is not intended to be applied outside the simulated Explorer setting, can involve chasing down illegal border crossers as well as more dangerous situations that include facing down terrorists and taking out "active shooters," like those who bring gunfire and death to college campuses. In a simulation here of a raid on a marijuana field, several Explorers were instructed on how to quiet an obstreperous lookout.

"Put him on his face and put a knee in his back," a Border Patrol agent explained. "I guarantee that he'll shut up."

One participant, Felix Arce, 16, said he liked "the discipline of the program," which was something he said his life was lacking. "I want to be a lawyer, and this teaches you about how crimes are committed," he said.

Cathy Noriego, also 16, said she was attracted by the guns. The group uses compressed-air guns - known as airsoft guns, which fire tiny plastic pellets - in the training exercises, and sometimes they shoot real guns on a closed range.

"I like shooting them," Cathy said. "I like the sound they make. It gets me excited."

FFS! Great idea, yeah right , no secret agenda there then.

Again FFS The wood is there alright its just the trees keep getting in the way to se anything else?

Stuart said...

More guns = a more polite society,
More guns = less crime,
More guns = I could have sorted ut the cunt who pulled knife on me and saved the state a royal sum for keeping the non working, slut impregnator.

jailhouselawyer said...

I have attacked the fake suspect story as a diversion from the real suspects and the question they need to answer.

Why did the McCanns tell the PJ a lie about a fake break-in to Apartment 5A?

Chalcedon said...

We had a CCF at school. It taught me discipline and how to be a crack shot. Time for guns now I reckon.

Angry Exile said...

What like this !

Published on Thursday, May 14, 2009 by The New York Times
A Different Kind of Boy Scout: Armed and Fighting Terrorism
For Explorer Scouts, Good Deeds Have Whole New Meaning

Er, no Harri dib fucking dib, not really like that at all. Teaching children to shoot and handle guns safely is not the same thing as taking them on simulated exercises with military/law enforcement. For one thing safe shooting and gun handling needs to happen before you even think of playing toy soldiers. For another buggering around with airsoft and paintball etc, while not entirely without risk, isn't the same thing as firing a real gun on a range. Still, I wouldn't have an issue with the report you quoted assuming that all the participants had already been taught safe gun handling, and since they mention shooting on a range I'd be surprised if they hadn't. Range Safety Officers tend to safety rather seriously and crack the shits at people who don't know what they're doing or think it's fun to dick around.

Harri dib fucking dib said...

Angry Exile

If they want to shoot straight !

For whatever reason ? then join the fucking Army! shoot straight and have some discipline ... job done

Scan said...

An intriguing discovery is that the lunatic Brown is a friend of the McCann family. After a quick look on Wikipedia, Madeleine McCann disappeared on 3rd May 2007 and McDoom was annointed on 27th June 2007. Now, what would have been the ramifications if it made it into the public domain that the man who was about to become prime minister was a friend of a child murderer? Quite wonderful!

Nicola Murphy - who was one of Brown's advisers - is associate director of Hanover PR Company, who initially handled the media and PR for the McCanns. That job is now exclusively in the hands of Clarence Mitchell...the former director of Neo Labour's Media Monitoring Unit (which controls what news does, and does not make it into the public domain). The McCanns don't pay Mitchell's salary - his salary is paid by an un-named wealthy source.

I've also just found out that Gerry McCann is the medical advisor to COMARE (the Committee On Medical Aspects of Radiation in the Environment) who work with EDF Energy, who's press officer is...Andrew to none other than the lunatic Brown! Now, that has no bearing on anything, but it's interesting none-the-less.

K. MacEgan said...

Was I the only person to lose internet control this morning? After writing about Barclay Bros, Stephen Kramer et al?

Angry Exile said...

Harri dib, I don't disagree wrt joining the army, but there are good reasons for private citizens having guns. Mine is target shooting because, well, I'm no good at golf and the gun club doesn't have a pretentious dress code, but mainly I just like it. Then hunting since Australia possibly has more rabbits and other invasive feral animals than bullets with which to shoot them all. That's about all Aussie law allows but since it allows children to shoot supervised (9 or 10 yrs I think) why not let kids get involved if they're interested?

Harri said...

Angry exile ,

First and foremost , Golf apart from Tiger Woods everyone else is really not much good at golf ! oh , how i have tried but to no avail , the great golf god kicks me in the bollocks each and every Friday without fail ... so i just get pissed in the bar afterwards to make me feel better ! now i understand the differing views , Australia , when was the last time you visited England , you so much as wave a chair leg around in a plastic bag and plod will shoot you, yes it happens here! gun clubs were banned along with just about everything else quite some time ago , and it will not be that long before even farmers are banned from using shotguns on there own land , now i live i Slovakia where for the princely sum of about 8 quid you can get faceless on vodka and then shoot a tree or bush with a Klashnivov.

Sorry i did not understand about you living down under , now if i lived there i would want to be armed to the bastard teeth , it appears that something or other either wants to eat you , bite you to death or sting you until you die in agony

Paul said...

Re: rabbits.

I hope you eat the bastards! They make very nice stew indeed.

Go go go! said...

What did you learn at school today,
Oh dear sweet child of mine?
We learned that tear gas burns the eyes,
We learned police dogs bite.
We learned that batons break the bones,
And we're learning how to fight.

Balding Nobhead Party said...

How many intruders have been shot by licenced gun owners in the last few years compared to how many wives and kids have been shot by licenced gun owners in the last few years? And how many licenced gun owners have been shot by police because they were wandering round with thier pants on thier heads taking potshots at the voices in the last few years?
No offence, but although I think I have the right to bear arms, I don't think many of you paranoid Chicken Licken Tony Martin wannabees should be allowed anywhere near the things.

Dont tread on me said...

I recommend every reader of this blog familiarise themselves with Major Hans von Dach's masterpiece, Total Resistance. There's a reason Switzerland has never been successfully invaded, and it isnt the clocks or the chocolate.

AnonyBNP said...

I'd like to remind you all that gun ownership would be made legal under a BNP government.

Arming the populace - hardly the tactics of an authoritarian party is it ?

I think you'll find that the BNP is a lot more libertarian than the MSM would want you so desperately to believe...

Reimer said...

23 May 2009 17:17
Blogger Scan said...

"An intriguing discovery is that the lunatic Brown is a friend of the McCann family. "

I'd heard this claim made somewhere not long after Maddie vanished but as is so usual with these antenna-twitching things (eg Dunblane), heard nothing more nor could elicit further info from anyone.

Nor have I ever been able to get my head round the way the case spawned a huge fully-formed cross-channel media campaign that was up & running within a couple of days without any kind of orchestrator apparent at its helm.

Balding Nobhead Party said...

AnonyBNP explain this

The BNP are Nationalists
The BNP have a Socialist economic policy.
The BNP have positioned themselves as the British workers party.

So apart from the word German, what is the difference between you and the National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP)?

Remember Hitler to promised a rosy future full of armed fit happy Germans. Didn't work out that way though did it?

JuliaM said...

"I'd like to remind you all that gun ownership would be made legal under a BNP government."

Under a BNP government, we'd certainly need them...

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