Wednesday, 20 May 2009

Equal Rights for Catholic Priests!


I see the homosexuals have been feasting themselves on over 2000 boys in Ireland.

Go on, tell me again how you are entitled to the same rights as me. Tell me again how you are "equal" to me in every way.
OH UPDATE:
Right, we have some debate
Old Holborn would not employ fat people to staff his restuarant - common sense but not PC
Old Holborn would not employ Nigerian Accountants - common sense but not PC
Old Holborn would not employ an alcoholic to run his pub - common sense but not PC
Old Holborn would not employ a pregant woman as a PA - common sense but not PC
Old Holborn would not employ anyone in a wheel chair as a Labourer - common sense but not PC
Old Holborn would not employ a homosexual to run a boys home - common sense but not PC
Old Holborn would not employ an MP to set MP's allowances - common sense.
I am glad you can all convince me that the priests stopped absuing..sorry...raping the boys on their 16th birthdays and are therefore only Paedophiles, not homosexuals.
Discuss

124 comments:

Paul said...

As we can get RTÉ Radio One loud here in the North West I listened in while driving. They had a few of the survivors call in to talk about it. It's an absolute disgrace and so is the Catholic Church (I would say fuck them but they'd like that, the dirty, disgusting perverts.) I'm not surprised Ulster's Unionists wanted sod all to do with the despicable, Catholic-dominated Irish Republic.

Anonymous said...

I'm not a poof but this is a complete fucking piss-take, OH. There are plenty of straight paedophiles out there, plenty of little girls who've been raped by big strapping heterosexual men.

All people deserve equal rights regardless of whether they're homosexual, heterosexual, bisexual or asexual.

All paedophiles, whether heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual, deserve to be banged up permanently, as do their enablers in the Catholic hierarchy.

Until you're willing to bear responsibility for everything straight man Josef Fritzl did, stop expecting the faggots to bear responsibility for every sicko that poofs up a little boy.

Anonymous said...

Please don't confuse homos with paedos.

Old Holborn said...

When you put homosexuals in positions of power over the source of their "urges", this is what happens.

Ever noticed how fat people work in cake shops? Same principle.

But of course, no one can mention it. That would be "homophobic" and someone might get offended.

I am pointing out a rather large elephant in the room. Don't put homosexuals in charge of young boys. Don't put Nigerians in charge of money transfers in banks. Don't put Muslims in charge of pub licencing. Need me to carry on?

Snowolf said...

Sorry, OH, you're off the mark on this one. This isn't an issue based on homosexuality, I've seen plenty of women interviewed who were girls at the time and were also subjected to abuse by the priests.

It is unfortunate that Priest stands for Paedo resident in every small town.

Perhaps if the church withdrew its ridiculous celibacy rules and wasn't so negative about a bit of bum sex, these guys would have been free to practice their preferences on willing partners rather than being driven to this disgusting method of getting their kicks.

electro-kevin said...

Our society is rooted in Christian belief which believes that homosexuality is an abomination.

But now the laws have been repealed which mean gay men (and heterosexuals) can have relationships in which they can bugger each other what is the problem ?

Christianity is in retreat. Long may it continue to be so - as with all religion. Alas some religions are more equal than others (try staging an offensive musical about Mohammed)

When will a heterosexual flag be flown over our police stations ?

Why are homosexuals so obsessed with declaring their sexual proclivities ?

Have you not noticed for decades now that the white, heterosexual male has been the butt of many an advertising campaign or sitcom - dating back to Fanny Craddock ?

The whole point of this issue is that anything goes in Britain - so long as it's not white, male, protestant and middle class. Gays have picked up the scent and are procuring as many 'rights' and as much power for themselves as they can.

Anonymous said...

You say -

"When you put homosexuals in positions of power over the source of their "urges", this is what happens."

I think you're mistakenly imagining that boys are the source of homosexual "urges". Little girls aren't the source of heterosexual "urges", at least in my experience, so why should it be different for gays? Try as I might, I can't see an elephant anywhere in this room.

The Righteous want the only alternative to political correctness to be bigotry; so are you really sure that you think all gays are latent pederasts?

Anonymous said...

"Gays have picked up the scent and are procuring as many 'rights' and as much power for themselves as they can."

They have also picked up another type of scent and are procuring as many young boys as they can in this current climate of a faggot free for all, led by the likes of Mandelson and the scawtish homosexuals who run the BBC.

Cunts all of them.

charlie said...

OH, you're being a dumb cunt about this one.

Using your own logic, I have to demand how many little girls have you raped?

Rab C. Nesbitt said...

As a Rangers supporter and being from the West of Scotland, you can probably guess my views on the tim 'church'.

Shibby said...

While straight myself, I know a fair number of homosexuals/bisexuals, none of whom would commit atrocities similar to those described herein.

Someone could equally take an anti-religious meaning from the event, or an anti-male slant, or anything really. Anti-human?

You have taken a homophobic slant and while I am against PC myself you should perhaps consider the chance that there are people out there will make the same kind of unjustified bias on things you do as you have with homosexuals.

Anonymous said...

When you put homosexuals in positions of power over the source of their "urges", this is what happens.

Bullshit. Homosexual men are attracted to men, not to children - unless you're implying that, as a heterosexual man, you're attracted to little girls.

Speaking as a straight man, I'm proud to admit I've not only never fucked a little girl - I'm not even attracted to them. Maybe you feel differently, OH, and maybe that's why you're judging the faggots in this way.

I'll say it again for the slow children: paedophiles come in every sexual stripe. Paedophiles seek positions of power that will allow them to get access to children. There are stories aplenty, my poorly informed friend, of heterosexual paedophiles preying on young girls in state homes.

The people who pray on children may be homosexual, heterosexual or bisexual but they all have one thing in common that differentiates them from the rest of the human race: they are paedophiles.

I'm not only disgusted by your ignorance here, OH, but also by your implicit attempts to protect paedophiles by placing the blame for their crimes onto ordinary vanilla-flavoured poofs.

Mitch said...

Shows you how much these priests believe in their sky fairy that they can spend their lives raping children and claiming to do gods work.
What sort of reward do they think awaits them when head office summons them? they obviously don't care.

Giving a child to a priest will ruin not only his mind but his arsehole as well....better off dead.

T' old 'un said...

As I have said on many occasions Religion and Politics are the opposite sides of the same coin.
They are systems built up on the belief of a non existant philosophy purely for the benefit of the "admintrators" of that belief.
The collection of money for redistribution to worthy causes is, and the attitude of those who know best and who are thus "untouchable" are prime indications.

Bum Bandito said...

Homosexuals can all bugger off!

ciplau said...

As one who was abused by a priest - of the venerable CofE persuasion, note - I think that it has nothing whatsoever to do with homo- or hetero-sexuality. He wasn't gay, he was just a vile person. No, it is to do with power, power over a victim. It just so happens that priests/nuns are alone with their own gender more, and young males are not as cosseted/protected as females, and the probabilities are weighted accordingly.

JamesW said...

OH, focus your anger on paedophile priests, whilst it is not focussed on our dishonourable troughers. There are countless people - straight, gay, whatever - who would be as revolted as you are about the Irish church 'revelations'. Gays like bum sex with men and not altar boys.

Anonymous said...

Nothing to do with homosexuality per se. It's as the pevious poster described. An opportunistic action, same with the emotional and physical abuse..(which often gets sidelined?)

Old Holborn said...

James

Church, Scouts, Choir masters, PE teachers.

Do not put homosexual men in positions of power over boys.

It is not Paedophilia. It is homosexuality. They do not stop abusing the boys on their 16th birthdays.

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Shibby said...

By the logic of your edit, you wouldn't employ a woman to look after a boys' home either.

You wouldn't employ a straight man to look after a mixed-gender orphanage.

Your opinion on this matter is retarded - common sense but not PC.

Shibby said...

"It is not Paedophilia. It is homosexuality. They do not stop abusing the boys on their 16th birthdays."

And now you're implying that homosexuals are rapists.
Well I'm straight and I see females every day. But I have never raped one. Explain?

The majority of homosexuals have never and will never rape another male. Explain?

What an asshat. And you should know I usually agree with your posts.

Old Holborn said...

I would employ a married woman with children to run a boys home.

She is best qualified. A single homosexual man is not best qualified.

Agreed?

Because if you agree, then the candidates are not all equal, are they? So why are they demanding equal treatment? Why are they demanding that the law be changed to ensure that their poor qualifications overide common sense?

AngryDave said...

Just because someone is gay does not mean they are a peado. The gay men that i know or have met are atracted to MEN, specificaly other gay men, not boys.
One of the managers at the jail where i work is gay and guess what, not a peado.

One of my other managers told me a story of a potential officer he interviewed who stated that all the white officers where racist, and she was only interested in 'helping' the black lads. She was black, and assumed all white people where racist. As it turned out she was the racist, and wrong!

OH, i usualy agree with you on most things, but think that you got this one a bit wrong.
Although, i do think that all peado's and anyone who hides them should be impaled on very long spikes.

The Beast of Clerkenwell said...

EEERRRR
Im virulently heterosexual but none of my friends(quite rightly) wouldnt do anything other than trust me with one of their female or for that matter male children, and have knowing that Id die before any harm came to them.
Your argument doesnt hold water.
I do however think that poofs or single men should be allowed to adopt.
Unless its a large breasted 21 year old female orphan

electro-kevin said...

I don't think a virile young woman with pert breasts is fit to run a group of sixteen-year-old boys for similar reason either for that matter.

Doubtless the boys would curse me on this occaision though.

ciplau said...

Your logic at 19:37 is both a priori and circular. You are laying down unspecified pre-conditions for qualification, and thence asserting your conclusion, which in turn you use to retro-justify your premise.

Shibby said...

Beast of Clerkenwell, if you could just point me in the direction of the orphanage of large-breasted 21 year old females I would be most grateful.

the beast of clerkenwell said...

shouldnt

Tory Poppins said...

Errrrrrrr . . . .I actually think that was an excellent post and take it in the manner in which it was meant! (Hence I gave it a 5!)

Old Holborn said...

I am not saying all gay men are Paedophiles.

I am saying do not put homosexual men in a position of power over boys.

Unfortunately, gay men now have a RIGHT to be put in a position of power over boys.

Hence 2000 lives in Ireland are in tatters. Thanks to gay men and their "rights".

And it is going to continue. In case doing otherwise "offends" gay men.

Anonymous said...

I've just got to say...

The Catholic Church is nothing to do with the Lord Jesus Christ. It is the Harlot Church and due for judgment. The pope is a complete charlatan.

Please, if any of you are involved in it, past or present, renounce your membership, even if enforced when you were a child, repent of it and come out of it altogether.

They preach a load of lies. You can tell if you examine the real Bible, something the Catholic Church hierarchy don't even bother to read.

God bless you.

Old Holborn said...

Ciplau said

"Your logic at 19:37 is both a priori and circular. You are laying down unspecified pre-conditions for qualification, and thence asserting your conclusion, which in turn you use to retro-justify your premise."

Nope. Read that three times. Still doesn't make any sense.

a london cabby said...

I had that cardinal cormac McMurpy in the back of me pants once guvnor

Old Holborn said...

Anon,

Would you like a list of abuses by ANY Church?

Whoever your God may be, he's a cunt who wants to control every aspect of our lives. All Gods do, funnily enough...

Jess The Dog said...

Yawwnn.....why so anti-gay? I know quite a few gay people that manage to resist the urge to chase young boys.

Same as gays in the forces....the anti-argument didn't work out there either. I was there and everything went on as normal (they didn't even notice the difference in the Navy!).

This abuse is symptomatic of repressed sexuality, abuse of power and institutional cruelty.

Anonymous said...

"Don't let gays be in charge of children in case they are paedos"; this might be "common sense" to you, but not to me.

Firstly, innocent until proven guilty? Should we suspect all gays and deny them certain jobs, McCarthy-style? And then, what about so-called "straight" men? They might be gays as well, but in the closet! Suspect them too?

Old Holborn said...

No, I said do not let homosexual men have power of over boys.

Read again.

The Beast of Clerkenwell said...

OH
The real evil in this is the cover up by the non paedo priests
Such as this pope and the previous one.
I had been kindly dealt with by all the priests that I have met, one in particular told me that he had worked with abused children, but had to stop as he couldnt handle it and also told me that those that abuse them should be put in a deep dark hole until they die.
I have far more imaginative ways to kill them

Old Holborn said...

Let me broaden the discussion

Would you be happy for Peter Stringfellow or David Sullivan (owner of the daily sport) to be the headmaster of YOUR daughters school?

I wouldn't. Neither are Peadophiles.

ciplau said...

I am sure it does, you're just being a little tease, you.
Let me try s simpler way then. You use the word "qualified", but without specifying what makes for qualificattion. Then you assert that one person is "more" qualified than the ther, - remember without stating what that qaulification is. That's the a priori bit. In fact, it actually wouldn't matter if you did state what the qualification consisted of, if it can be shown that you are reasoning from pre-conditions then it will always be a priori. That's what being a priori is about. Then you say that the persons cannot be equal because one is more qualfied than the other - that's the circular bit your conclusion is justifying your premise. That's the circular bit.

In other words, the argument, while superficially appearing to lead the reader inevitably to agreement, is actually a logical trap.

You do it all the time you naughty sophist you.

Just nobody's bothered to call you on it. Apart from DK.

Old Holborn said...

Beast

"The real evil in this is the cover up by the non paedo priests"

No, the real evil is that homosexual men are allowed, by law, to work in the sweet shop.

Don't blame the diabetics who wouldn't dream of gorging themselves.

Old Holborn said...

Ciplau

Do you believe that witch doctors should be admitted to the GMC?

It is, after all, their "right"

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"Don't let gays be in charge of children in case they are paedos"; this might be "common sense" to you, but not to me.

Firstly, innocent until proven guilty? Should we suspect all gays and deny them certain jobs, McCarthy-style? And then, what about so-called "straight" men? They might be gays as well, but in the closet! Suspect them too?

20 May 2009 20:05

Maybe you have to within the statistical norm in a libertarian society? Although that doesn't sound very libertarian?

Old Holborn said...

Libertarianism means that you do not adversly affect anyones life, liberty or property.

It would appear that homosexual predators in Ireland are anything BUT Libertarian.

And we have passed laws to help them.

JamesW said...

OH: 'No, I said do not let homosexual men have power of over boys.'

Are you happy with heterosexual men having power over girls? Heterosexual women having power over boys? Lesbians having power over girls? Bisexuals having power over anybody?

Yes, organisations with boys as members should be very careful about who they employ. They need to filter out the paedeos. Something the Catholic Church has been spectacularly unsuccessful at.

Every organisation has to be careful to protect minors. Look at the weekly stories on fark.com where some ugly hag is fucking the sixth form, or US equivalent, as it's her only hope of a seeing to.

The problem is with paedos, not with gayers, Take a Google Image Search for "gay porn". Really, go take a look: http://images.google.com/images?q=gay%20porn

Not my thing, but they look over the age of consent. Gayers can confirm. but I guess this is what they're after rather than some 11 year old.

ciplau said...

You're doing it again. But it's fun.

You will need to show that such a right exists, and not just assert that it does.

Then we can, as you put it, "discuss".

Anonymous said...

Heterosexual men should be banned from any contact with girls - common sense but not PC.

OH, I find myself asking a lot of questions about you since you seem completely incapable of recognising that normal people of *any* sexuality are not attracted to children.

Is there a reason for this? Do you, as a self-professed heterosexual, find yourself attracted to little girls?

Old Holborn said...

"Yes, organisations with boys as members should be very careful about who they employ"

Illegal I'm afraid. Under laws passed by homosexual MP's.

and no, anon, I am not attracted to little girls. I have 5 daughters. Hence my belief that anyone who threatens them with "their sexuality" does not possess the "right" to exert power over them.

Old Holborn said...

Ciplau

As an employer, I am no longer allowed to ask the marital status of an applicant.

A pork Butcher may no longer ask if the candidate is Muslim or Jewish

A high wire circus may no longer ask if the candidate is in a wheelchair.

Is this the future? If it is, many, many more innocent children are going to have their arses violently stretched, may more employers are going to be bankrupted by employees unwilling to do the jobs they were hired to do and circuses are going to be very boring.

Anonymous said...

and no, anon, I am not attracted to little girls.

If you believe that heterosexual men are not necessarily paedophiles, why do you assume that all homosexuals are paedophiles?

I have 5 daughters. Hence my belief that anyone who threatens them with "their sexuality" does not possess the "right" to exert power over them.

And that would actually matter if anyone were making the argument you're claiming. You're engaging in something called a "straw man". It means you're incapable of answering the arguments people are making and so you're responding to an argument that you have fabricated.

If we follow what I laughingly describe as your "logic", you should be banned from any contact with any of your five daughters because, clearly, as a heterosexual you will probably rape them. Moreover, statistically, most sexual abuse of children is of girls by adult men.

I can only conclude that you're either taking the piss completely for a laugh with this post or you're so bigoted that you're past the point of rational thought and well into the realms of rabid frothing paranoid and rather lurid fantasies.

Good luck and try not to rape your daughters.

Shibby said...

"Hence my belief that anyone who threatens them with "their sexuality" does not possess the "right" to exert power over them."

Fucking stupid. There are straight pedos.

Furthermore, there are straight female pedos and lesbian pedos.

By your logic, you yourself are a pedo, yet you claim not to be.

Which just proves that the quoted statement is fucking stupid.

Anonymous said...

If it is, many, many more innocent children are going to have their arses violently stretched,

But you don't care if little girls get their prepubescent cunts violently stretched.... I'm very, very worried about the side of yourself that you're revealing here, OH.

You're positively fixated on man-on-boy sex while, at the same time, being quite uninterested in - and one might even say hostile to - the protection of little girls from adult male heterosexual predators.

Very worrying indeed.

Old Holborn said...

If you believe that heterosexual men are not necessarily paedophiles, why do you assume that all homosexuals are paedophiles?I don't. But I am saying do not let homosexual men have power over boys. Because homosexual men who have power over boys end up raping them.

Unfortunately, the law now says homosexual men MUST have power over boys. Because they are equal to everybody else. So thousands of boys are raped by homosexual men who have power over them. Because the law won't stop them.

If you stop homosexual men having power over boys, thousands of boys will not be raped.

But that's un pc. So bend over lads.

Custard said...

OH, how can laws WE apparently have passed affect what goes on in the Republic of Ireland?

And for the record, I'm with Rab C on this one, but you would know that.

Shibby said...

heterosexual males who have powe over girls end up raping them.

So hand your daughters over, OH, before it's too late.

Old Holborn said...

Anon

I do not believe Lesbian PE teachers should be allowed anywhere near girls either. Yet most female PE teachers I know are gay. The law protects them. They have every RIGHT to be PE teachers.

I can't spot Peados anymore than the next man. But a poof in a boys school or a lezzer in a girls school is a pretty bloody good place to start.

Unfortunately, the law no longer allows us to look.

ciplau said...

I don't know if it is the future as you depict. I have no crystal ball. Well, actually I do, but it is in sore need of being dusted, being as it is out of reach behind the astrolabe on the top shelf. But I digress ....

I fail to see any connection between equality/anti-discrimination legislation and pedophilia, the latter being rampant in such places as already referred to in this thread aeons before the letters H and R were gleams in the EU's eye.

I would submit that you continue to cross your categories and equate what you see as the apparent unleashing of homosexuality across society with the abuse of children. Not an equation you have yet succeeded in demonstrating, I deem.

Old Holborn said...

Ask the Irish

Anonymous said...

I ask you once again, OH: why are you so fixated on the rape of boy while shrugging your shoulders about the girls?

You want all gays banned from being anywhere near children but you don't seem interested in protecting your five precious daughters from heterosexual men.

Fuck it. Call a spade a spade: OH, you don't give a shit about paedophilia; that's why your arguments are so poorly thought out - because you don't care about the subject and you haven't given it any serious thought. You just hate faggots. You hate them. Maybe you're a closet case or maybe you were poofed yourself as a child - I don't know and it doesn't matter but I know this is about one thing only and it surely isn't the children: it's about how much you hate queers. Perhaps it's also about how much you *wish* you had the courage to go queer-bashing; since you can't, you rant impotently and irrationally from behind the safety of your keyboard.

It's pathetic. Pull yourself together. Act like a fucking grown up and stop talking such absolute shite. For God's sake, man. Act your age and talk some sense.

Shibby said...

Not all homosexuals are rapists
Not all rapists are paedophiles
Not all paedophiles are homosexual:

Not all heterosexuals are rapists
Not all rapists are paedophiles
Not all paedophiles are heterosexual.

The vast majority of both groups would wish no harm to children whatsoever.

Kindly cut the shite.

Anonymous said...

And still OH fails to address the question of straight men coming into contact with girls.

You're a straight man, OH, therefore you clearly crave prepubescent pussy.

Anonymous said...

Blimey OH, I think you've queered your pitch.

Shibby said...

lol

Old Holborn said...

Which is why I am married, with children and work in renewable energy. I do not run a Girl Guides pack, I am not the treasurer of a Majorettes troupe, I do not read the Sunday Sport nor promote ballet.

Unfortunately the people who do the above and do it because they are homosexual and paedophiles are now protected by equality laws.

Saying they are the same as me. They aren't. They are scum.

Shibby said...

And what about the majorty of people who do such things that aren't sexual predators?

People just like you? The majority, I hasten to repeat.

Homophobia is blinding you.

PC is a load of balls but that is not to blame for your rant today.

caesars wife said...

how did you manage to delete a comment on this post ??

Interesting brooching of the understanding of preference as opposed to what reviles a person.

The question i like is should gays be put on govt heterosexual learning course under equality law . (theres a thought for harriet)

however with paedos and those that smear the line with legal age limit , i rember a program on paedos and the cops reckoned that you couldnt do anything about there behavior ie they would always be a problem , only known cure was chemical castration !!

so take your pick , lock them up or give em some chemicals or hope your kids dont meet them !!

Custard said...

Indeed they are OH - but the primary blame lies with the Roman Catholic church. This stuff has been going on for decades; it was institutionalised rape and they merely closed up shop and allowed it to continue.

I have no doubt that there are pederasts and sickos in most walks of life - but in most walks of life they will get found out.

The Roman Catholic church has, for decades just turned a blind eye.

That's the biggest crime.

Old Holborn said...

I am homophobic, I agree

I am also a prejudiced, racist bigot.

Because every inch has seen a mile taken.

I can't stop my son being watched by a smirking homosexual PE teacher when he showers afters rugby. I can't stop my daughters being molested by Nigerian "bruvvers" on the train home from school (you don't wanna kiss me cos I is black innit. Das racist, you is in big shit). I can't stop every ounce of shite anymore. Every single minority can now wield their power over me and my life.

I require only one law.

you shall not initiate force or fraud against another person's life, liberty or property.

Anonymous said...

some insane human rights lawyer in the USA actually sued the Boy Scouts for NOT employing enough gay scout leaders. I expect they are a bit down on recruits these days.
She also had a role in Clinton's administration. She sued lending institutions that she perceived were discriminating against ethnic minorities. And the rest,as they say, is history.
Roberta something her name was.
Fucking dyke!
Urban11

ciplau said...

OH, I don't need to ask the Irish. I was abused nigh on forty years ago. There were no equality laws back then. The causes of institutionalised child abuse were, and remain, elsewhere.

Old Holborn said...

Ciplau

Your abusers are now protected by law.

This is my argument

ciplau said...

OH, report the teacher to the school, report the Nigerian(s) to the police. If you think powerless and act powerless then you will be powerless. But if you act, *even if* it ends up being distressing and very likely a waste of time in the end, you will have gone some way to restoring the balance.

Hell, you do V, so why don't you take on these scum of whom you speak ?

Custard said...

Because, ciplau, the Catholic Church is unassailable. They even have a nice Hitler Youth chap in charge. And TV cameras STILL follow him wherever he goes.

Burn them all.

Old Holborn said...

Ciplau

I do.

I take them on every day. I march. I get arrested. I send my entire day being a royal pain in the arse to each and every one of the 646. I blog (currently the 12th most influencal blog in the UK). I protest.

If I report the Nigerians, I am a racist. If I report the PE teacher, I am a homophobic.

They passed the laws to protect THEM. No one will be named and shamed in Ireland. 2,000 lives ruined yet not ONE priest will be held to account.

You can watch me ransack Parliament on Saturday, 12 noon, if you wish. Or you can help me do it.

ciplau said...

OH, my abuser isn't even protected by the grave, but that is a whoooooole other matter.

And I do take your point, but I think it rests on a fallacy.

Shibby said...
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ciplau said...

OH, I will be honoured to lend what assistance I am able. What must be done ?

Shibby said...

On the 23rd I'll be your watcher from a distance, OH, but if you prick up your ears you might just hear me cheering from my quiet corner of Scotland.

Edit: fucked up there with date/time.

I'm looking forward to hearing about your adventures.

Shibby said...

As ciplau said, if there's anything someone can do, from a distance I'm also willing to help.

But I doubt the internet will help you much with this so, probably not.

Rab C. Nesbitt said...

Bloody hell. Most of the commenters are spectacularly missing OH's point. Yeah, his point was brutally made, but totally valid. It's as if we have had a sudden infestation of righteousness tip evening. Call the exterminators.

Old Holborn said...

Ciplau

What fallacy? Should we build escalaters on Everest because handicapped people cannot manage the climb? Should we abolish TV because the blind can't see it?

Homosexual men should not be in a position of power over boys. Because they abuse it. What is so hard to understand?

We are not all equal. No other species on the planet pretends they are. What makes us so special?

Custard said...

FGAU.

ciplau said...

Let me be clearer. I am willing to come along and help.
Shibby's post 21:53 makes me suspect my words didn't come across like that. What they were meant to ask was - rendezvous, dress-code, fingerprints optional ? etc.

Shibby said...

But you're missing the blatant truth that most homosexuals are not sexual predators.

Old Holborn said...

http://bastardoldholborn.blogspot.com/2009/05/saturday-23rd-may-noon.html

ciplau said...

OH. Nope, none of the above. The fallacy that society's increased condoning of homosexuality has anything to do with the underlying causes of paedophilia.

ciplau said...

Ah, ok, I never did read the whole of that thread ...

Oh goody, a day out. I must make sure Barnabas has extra mice.

Old Holborn said...

Shibby

the death toll from AIDS will tell you otherwise

Guthrum said...

I have been in London all day, so missed this one ! spot on OH

Yet again people confusing Libertarianism with being a Libertine (just like Cameron)

Shibby said...

AIDS is transmitted regardless of whether or not one of the parties involved gave consent to sex.

Furthermore, AIDS transfers not only between men but between heterosexuals as well.

TheBigYin said...

As one person said to me once when I was banged up for a six month stretch many years ago, "Homophobic, I'm not scared of homos, I just hate the cunts!" Not my sentiments but I am sick to death of the gay mafia polluting our lives with their self promotion. We are here to procreate for the furtherance of the species, nothing else. Living the life of a priest or a nun aint fucking normal. Some of my best friends are...Rangers supporters!

Old Holborn said...

AIDS is transmitted regardless of whether or not one of the parties involved gave consent to sex.You'll need to ask an Irish boy

Furthermore, AIDS transfers not only between men but between heterosexuals as well.In sub saharan Africa, yes.

electro-kevin said...

"No, the real evil is that homosexual men are allowed, by law, to work in the sweet shop."

Old Holborn at 20.21

They're not called fudge packers for nothing, old boy !

Custard said...

That's baceause they like to fuck up the arse - where the skin is more likely to tear and spread infection - due to it being a tad tighter than the average African wizard sleeve.

Natural selection - let them die of thwir own stupidity, as Roman Catholic priests will eventually.

TheBigYin said...

Rightly or wrongly I've always thought that AIDS was transfered to hetrosexuals by those (men)who like it both ways.

Why I'm spending time talking about queers I can't fathom? Fuck I'm getting old!!!

Custard said...

Did not Mr Paisley mutter about "sending the Sodomites to Bussels" when Mandelson got the gig?

He may be barking in lots of ways, but old Ian has more moral fibre in his little fingernail than the the Catholic Church has in its whole being.

Paul said...

So, let's just hang on here.

By OH's argument homosexuals shouldn't be put in charge of young boys.

Does the same apply to heterosexuals in respect to girls?

And Paisley sold his soul to the Devil when he got into bed with Sinn Féin/IRA.

Anonymous said...

I had a very very principled German teacher at school. He would not let me go to an extracurricular event, because the other two boys did not show up.

Characteristically naive at that age, I asked him why not - as I'd been unaccompanied with my English teacher (a woman.)

"It simply wouldn't be appropriate".

A few years ago I found evidence of a certain person who had been involved in this sort of stuff. It was vile. Slow grooming, encouragement, overseas trips, all expenses paid.

When we become adults and streetwise, I think we forget how vulnerable we were.

Old Bag said...

i believe it is a pre-requisite for all would be priests to pass a "pedoness" test...

Kinderling said...

Shibby said...

"Well I'm straight and I see females every day. But I have never raped one. Explain?"

Liar. You have in your mind. What a hypocrite siding with those who have made what is vile in their heads, flesh.

If you make your mind's perversion a reality, a giving-in to corruption, then you should never be let near children. That's the difference.

Anonymous said...

Gays,lesbians, catholic priests and nuns, from a section of society that doesn't breed where do they all come from?

Balding Nobhead Party said...

The collectors. Thats the ones you have to watch. They differ from normal folk in that they have no middle ground. They are extremists. Either they will fixate on one thing and collect it avidly or they will be unable to throw anything away. Hence the 1,000,000 images of porn headlines you hear. I don't know what the conection between the collecty mindset and sexual deviancy is but its definatly there.

caesars wife said...

So does this mean the concept of the civilised society needs an overhaul ???

Anonymous said...

When you put Heterosexuals in positions of power over the source of their "urges", this is what happens.

Baby P
Kate and Gerry Mccann

Kaygee said...

Whats next OH? Make them all wear badges so you can spot them in the street?

caesars wife said...

if you have any readers left OH guidos gone to bed .

Margaret Moron is in deep doo doo
check out FT , seems as though she used commons staff/headed paper to get funding for a company called EQN of which she is a director , some came from a quango but 50k in total , some was used for a "feasability study" into a womens centre , mrs Moran recieved 9k in renumeration .

as Rolf Harris might say "can you see how it works yet" looks like a political cashpoint device

Barnsley Bill said...

Phew, lots of comments and most of them utter gobshite.
A different perspective.
Relaxing the laws and allowing poofs to be "out" has probably lessened the incidents of child abuse and rape. Being allowed to live it has removed the need to steal it.
Most of the stuff we hear about is from a dark and distant past.
Anybody disagreeing with me is more than welcome to follow the usual path and suck my hairy arse.

Anonymous said...

Well done OH sir, just speaking the truth provokes this reaction from the "quota" crowd.

Anonymous said...

Who said the Catholic religion was the biggest paedophile ring in the world not so long back?

It was that gay comidian, wasn't wrong was he?

Anonymous said...

OH,

My best mate used to be married to a member of the Righteous and occasionally he would say things which hadn't been approved by the Equalities and Human Rights Commission. When he did this she would often say that she was offended.

His reply ?

'I am offended that you are offended by what I said.'

OH, I applaud you for having the guts to make this post and I agree 100% with your sentiment.

However, unfortunately, I think you have also revealed something about the flawed thinking of a great many Libertarians.

OH, I urge you to vote BNP on June 4th if you want to end this madness.

Deep Throat said...

Roman Catholic priests should be allowed to marry like their couterparts in other faiths, like CoE.

They wouldn't have to use boys and girls as their personal wank toys then, at least until the missus decides to run off with her best mate Isabelle.

Balding Nobhead Party said...

That these people are gay is speculation. That these people are Catholic is beyond doubt. So why is the Catholic church allowed to continue when it is clear to any sane person that it is a brutal pedophile ring. Why do people around the world, including governments, take moral advice from Catholics. And, not that I disagree with the point he is making but why is OH so determined to divert attention from the Catholics to the gays.
So many questions

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
When you put Heterosexuals in positions of power over the source of their "urges", this is what happens.

Baby P
Kate and Gerry Mccann

Don't forget the lovely normal Karen (Mathews,) still she is straight, so thats ok and so many others to numerous to list.

Anonymous said...

'I can't stop my son being watched by a smirking homosexual PE teacher when he showers afters rugby'.

If this really is the case, you should complain to the headmaster, OH.

BUT, in that case the PE teacher is NOT acting like a homosexual - he is acting like a PAEDOPHILE.

Some paedophiles are homosexual, some are heterosexual, some are bisexual. To tar all homosexuals as paedophiles is wrong, unfair & unworthy of you OH. I follow your blog & admire & agree with many of the things you do & say but I can't on this one.

If your original statement that homosexuals are a risk to the children of their own sex is correct, then surely you, as a heterosexual male must be a risk to young girls? And Mrs OH must be a risk to young boys?

The problem in Ireland is that the Catholic church, very like our MPs here in the UK, began to believe it's own publicity and considered itself above the law & unaccountable. A fine example of 'power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely'. While the abusers should be thrown in a deep, waterless hole in the ground & left to die miserably an even worse fate should befall those who knew it was happening & did nothing. Those are the truly culprable people. And the Pope needs to grasp that nettle & make sure that all the abusers are brought to book. PS I'm Irish.

Custard said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPUE9xpxjcc

Balding Nobhead Party said...

'The Pope needs to grasp that nettle & make sure that all the abusers are brought to book. PS I'm Irish."

Because the pope, being formerly both a priest and a nazi could never possibly have raped little kiddies. I mean, just look of that benevolent stare of his

Deep Throat said...

Yeah, the pope loves little kids. As long as they aren't Jewish and are Aryan.

Anonymous said...

"...Church, Scouts, Choir masters, PE teachers...They do not stop abusing the boys on their 16th birthdays."

Glad you mentioned this mate.

When I was at school my PE teacher (male) was quite rightly kicked out of his job when it was revealed he'd been caught shagging one of his pupils (aged 18, and female) in the changing rooms after hours.

So homosexuals shouldn't be PE teachers because... they MIGHT have sex with boys in the changing rooms.

And heterosexuals SHOULD, even though, as the above real life example shows, they MIGHT have sex with girls.

Here's another example, fittingly enough, from the Belfast Telegraph:

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/sacked-teacher-moves-in-with-teenage-former-pupil-14000396.html

OH, what do you make of that? Should he have been sacked? Yes or no?

P.S. For what little difference it makes, I'm a white hetero male.

Shibby said...

"Liar. You have in your mind. What a hypocrite siding with those who have made what is vile in their heads, flesh."

I'm not siding with any of the bastards. I'm just annoyed to hear unjustified prejudice from someone who I can usually agree with.

And I don't remember raping someone "in my mind". But feel free to speculate on my thoughts and feelings and talk as if these speculations are facts, asswipe.

Kevin said...

"Old Holborn would not employ a homosexual to run a boys home - common sense but not PC"

It's only common sense if you think all gays are paedophiles. That's pretty much the definition of homophobia, OH.

Anonymous said...

I have a visceral hatred for the non elected (and the elected)authoritarians who try to bully, intimidate and brow beat people into some sort of conformity/conventionality that they happen to approve of. The people who for generations have tried and until recently suceeded in bullying huge numbers of people into living a miserable guilt filled existence.

They are the adult version of school yard bullies.

Anonymous said...

For someone who constantly bangs on about government surveillance you sure seem to have an overly keen interest in what goes on in other peoples bedrooms...

Anonymous said...

I'm not saying all homosexuals are paedophiles, though a certain level of common sense over political correctness is needed here as OH points out.

OH, even though he in my opinion can be an utter nob at times does raise a valid point, the recent paedophile ring in Scotland supposedly homosexuals, though that little detail was buried to segregate their actions from that of their homosexuality backgrounds.
In the same light Paedophile priests are not homosexual, NAMBLA are not homosexual either, yeah right, bullshit!

NAMBLA was very much part of the gay rights movement in the states until it was ostrasized primarily by Lesbian groups who didn't want to be associated with their shit.
Ultimately they were booted from the International Gay and Lesbian Association not because they were morally repugnant paedophile bastards but because funding for the IGLA was to be axed due to NAMBLAs association with them.

Whatever your personal flavour of cum receptacle is up to you, but don't go fucking pretending within the gay community there isn't a serious problem.
Sure you can argue that heterosexual paedophiles are not gay and are just as bad, and you'd be right they are sicko bastards that deserve to be nailed to a wall via their eye sockets too, but the fundamental difference is the disproportionate numbers of paedophiles per capita between heterosexual and homosexual men.

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