Tuesday, 5 May 2009

A confined confinement.


There is something wrong in the case of Samantha Orobator, the pregnant British woman who could face death by firing squad in Laos if she is convicted of drug smuggling.

She has been in custody for nine months.

She is five months pregnant.

The Reprieve Charity lawyer, Anna Morrris has said:

British officials had only been able to visit Orobator for a period of 20 minutes once a month.

Australian Kay Danes told Sky News the conditions at the Phonthong prison were "horrific" and

"nobody went through that prison and didn't suffer in some way".

Ms Danes said: "We endured mock executions, waterboarding and torture.

"I watched my husband sit on a concrete floor with his legs in wooden blocks and they beat him with a steel tyre brace."

She went on: "I saw young African boys who had their genitals burnt with fire."

So, are we to assume that conditions are so horrific that the pregnancy can only be as a result of rape?

In which case even a miserly 20 minutes once a month is quite long enough to confide in those British officials who have been visiting her – and I would have expected them to be making urgent representations on her behalf - and making sure the media were well aware of the rape.

Or are the conditions not so horrific and it wasn’t rape?

Reprieve, the organisation which is funding Anna Morris in her search for a Laos counsel for Ms Orobator is some 40% funded by - grants from the Foreign Office to ‘provide assistance to Britons overseas who are facing the death penalty. Note, Reprieve are not actually providing that counsel, they are engaged in searching for a suitable counsel.

Remind me again, why do tax payers fund the Foreign Office? Is it not to provide assistance to Britons overseas amongst other duties? Do they not know who the local counsel are? Why are taxpayers funding yet another charity to do this for them? How does it manage to come as a surprise to them that Ms Orobator is pregnant – did they not enquire as to her conditions of confinement? In nine months we have heard nothing of Ms Orobator, nothing of any rape, nor even of this surprising pregnancy; suddenly Ms Morris is on a flight to Laos and the media is full of stories of ‘water-boarding’ and ‘torture’.

Where is Max Clifford? On a flight to Laos?

36 comments:

Old Holborn said...

I have to agree Anna

I see a book, a film, a TV series, celebrity Really, Get Me OUT of Here.

Sue said...

After deservedly, being imprisoned for smuggling drugs, she obviously found out that being pregnant would help her case.

She was right wasn't she? Plus the fact that she's not white of course and her mum keeps showing pics of her when she was 16 and not as she looks now.

Old Holborn said...

Behind every unsuccessful woman, stands a grinning man, biggin' it up wiv his 'ho's......

Have her parents visited her? I mean BOTH of them?

Custard said...

I watched the mother of this thing on TV yesterday, on bended knees, begging for mercy for her daughter. Whilst watching it, I noted that she was not denying it had smuggled drugs.

Didn't know the 5 months pregnant / 9 months in prison bit...

One gun, a few bullets, the world is done a big favour. Cunts.

rat said...

She's smuggling killer drugs - let her hang - or let breakfasting rats in her dugngeon have their feast, pregnant? So What!
(Copyright The Testicular One)

Anonymous said...

A communist country that runs its prisons like concentration camps? I'm shocked!

That said, there is something very distasteful about the spectacle this woman's mother is putting on for the TV cameras. I notice she's not begging and wailing for her daughter to be afforded due process or a fair trial or kept in humane conditions: she's appealing for her daughter to be "released" as if she were a prisoner of conscience or a hostage.

She's not, she's a suspected drugs smuggler, and not a very smart one if she thinks south east Asia is a good place to try her luck carting heroin across borders.

K. MacEgan said...

Thought about this today.A guy walks up to you & says "Want a free trip to Holland?" Yes please. "Oh can you extend it and take a free trip to Thailand?" Again yes. "Can you cross the Lao border with this package?" Arent alarm bells going to ring at some stage? OK she is a muls. The Lao don't want her there she is farang (foreign) and killing farang fucks up trade. So she gets jiggy with nearest cock and voila as a pregnant prisoner is pardoned.

Ray Nerslane said...

Off topic, but don't miss this:

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Stay-GordonBrown/

Sarah said...

Maybe she got pregnant during a Consular visit by one of these foreign office boys. There are rumours circulating in Whitehall that a few of them are not gay and if she was going to be executed anyway I suppose they thought no lasting harm would be done.

Anonymous said...

As somebody who works abroad a lot- never but never rely on the Foreign Office for assistance.

They are there to work for the Government, not the people of this country

R Nosgrove said...

Is it just me, or is the name Orobator rather exciting?

Old Bag said...

`i agree with sue..a good way of getting out of being shot is to get knocked up "no-one would ever shoot a tart with a kid" miss.O must have schemed ,looking around for the nearest cock.
this doesnt change the fact that this piece of shit has broken the law of the land. she knew what she was doing when she smuggled the nose powder into the country. let her have the kid then shoot the bitch.

denverthen said...

Well I hope she gets off, has the baby, makes a mint on't Telly, finds love with an ex-dealer called Shifty, campaigns for drugs to be 'legalised', wins and lives happily ever after.

I'm in a good mood.

K. MacEgan said...

Anon very wise.Only time I ever "needed" them was in Reykjavik when I was flat bust.Went to Sundahopn docks & signed on.July 89.Embassy?Too busy on the G&T circuit.

Dick the Prick said...

An anagram of her name is, Oh No Ar Mastabator. (soz, best I could come up with).

Anna Raccoon said...

Sue,
You must be telepathic, the Laos government have tonight made a statement that they would not execute a pregnant woman......didn't say what they would do when she was not pregnant though....
Sarah,
Equally telepathic.....20 minutes is quite long enough for a number of things (judging by bitter experience in the past!)

Sue said...

I hate being a miserable sarcastic cow sometimes! Is it age or a sign of the times?

Anonymous said...

Sadly for the tabloids not a single person has been executed there since 1989, still, best not let that get in the way of a good headline.

Anonymous said...

They don't shoot them and as for "My hell in a S E Asia prison" do the crime do the time the days of paying the cops off are over. Anyone remember Smith and Cahill in the mid 90's smuggling smack in Thailand? The brits knew what they were up to and wanted them back in the UK so they could nail the black guy from Birmingham who arranged for them to go, BKK Chiang Mai stayed in one of the best hotels there and was asked by someone to take"30kg of sweets" back to the UK then back to BKK stayed at the Grace hotel. What happened is that there is a Thai woman in the UK embassy in Wireless Road attached to the drug squad, Thai's are 2 a penny so she told the Thai police to cut a long story short they were sentenced to death commuted to 25 years. Then they all got on the bandwagon chief wizard archbishop of Canterbury, John Major and Christ knows who else, after a few months they were pardoned and back to the UK. Now where is Max Clifford et al? Not one word has ever been published about their "ordeal" I wonder why not?

Shibby said...

Hey kids,

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1177768/Brown-set-axe-Jacqui-Smith-Hazel-Blears-ruthless-cabinet-reshuffle.html

Shibby said...

Also, here come the long-awaited compulsory ID cards.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8035002.stm

http://pratsinpower.blogspot.com/2009/05/more-id-cards-on-their-way.html

caesars wife said...

well we could do with knowing a few bits and pieces , like what reason was she there for ? and was anything destined for the UK.

getting caught or getting paid is not really an intelliegnt choice

Anonymous said...

Brought up under NuLab "justice" she probably thought she would get a caution.

Shoot her in the belly.

Balding Nobhead Party said...

Fuck every one of you. She is a business woman attempting to export a product highly sought after in the west. Laos, Cambodia, Thailand are flat fucking broke because the industries that might actually make them money are constantly under attack. Apart from child fucking of course. But I forget, the right only hate interfering state oppression when it conflicts with thier freedom to smoke fags, drink whisky and read bibles. Everything else is 'evil' and needs a war on it.

Anonymous said...

Brought up under NuLab "justice" she probably thought she would get a caution.

Shoot her in the belly.

Have to agree with you on that one. Just a shinig example of NuLab UK PLC. Now she is in a country that has proper justice. If you cannot do the time don't do the crime.

Anonymous said...

I love the fact that Mother and family move to Britain from Nigeria, get British citizenship then piss off to live in Ireland and now she is conveniently British when the shit hits the fan, Father must be so proud of this little scam.

Anonymous said...

She's British in the same way that I'm French - I wasn't born there and I have no connection to the place, but I once visited it briefly and rather liked it.

As far as I'm concerned - and far as all right-thinking people are concerned - let her take the punishment that's coming. She broke the law so fuck her (and apparently someone already has - boom boom!). Let the Nigerian government bang the drum to get the stupid cow (or should that be mule?) released.

Anna Raccoon said...

Nay, nay, anonymous......

Let us subsidise her legal team, fly her back here on a private charter flight, keep her and her child for at least the next sixteen years, and probably longer, give up a valuable chunk of NHS resources to treating her for the undoubted post traumatic stress she will have suffered at discovering that when the Laos government says it has a punitive regime for drug smuggling it actually means it has a punitive regime for drug smuggling, and let us smile indulgently as the main stream press fawn over her and reveal her trauma at discovering that No means No.
We're British for God's sake - what are you thinking of?

killemallletgodsortemout said...

It's being put about that if she's guilty, they won't shoot her because she is pregnant.

Can't they wait until she's had the baybee, then shoot her?

Anonymous said...

In the all the furore about this lady what about the case of John Watson who happens to be a brit (born and bred) in the same jail doing life on drug smuggling charges. How come nothing was ever said about him? Surely it can't be because he's a white male? Or what about Michael Newman another white Brit who died through a lack of medical attention in there last year? The MSM and the foreign office never gave two hoots about him.

Btw its a mixed prison where males and females share the same prison blocks. Read more about it here

I also doubt the rape assertion as the lao authorities take a pretty dim view of that sort of thing - torture yes, rape no no no.

Finally she was smuggling smack from Laos to THAILAND FFS - this is not a bright lady

Swiss Tony said...

Interesting report on the conditions in the prison.

Should be a blueprint for penal reform in this country.

Swizz

Roger Thornhill said...

1. She is smuggling a product that has no reason to be illegal, ergo it is a non-crime, it is, equivalent to a breech of statute, a breaking of a regulation.

2. She was carrying the goods on her person, they say, not even in her luggage. A willing mule.

3. Almost certainly there is some cowardly scumbag who uses others to do their dirty work.

4. I have no information to pass judgement on the pregnancy thing, only to say that the rape story is not being pushed hard in the news, so maybe some are sceptical.


Laos: expect an army of pregnant women to begin visiting your country.

Falco said...

Shes "pleading her belly" like Anne Bonny:

http://www.geographia.com/bahamas/annebonny.htm

Sensible thing to do under the circumstances.

Dick the Prick said...

Fucking hell you lot are harsh just over a bit of smack. It's crack that's the fucking killer.

it's either banned or compulsory said...

Do I give a flying fuck about Samantha Orobator ? No I do not. I hope that she and her unborn sprog die there, save the world a lot of bother and expense.

Anonymous said...

"Meanwhile, a human rights organisation has said the British Government must make "forceful representations" to the authorities in Laos to ensure Miss Orobator gets a fair trial and is safely returned to the UK."
Now I do know that your innocent until proven guilty but how about being guilty after your found guilty? It seems to me that if your a young "Englsh" woman found guilty of anything including murder remember Louise Woodward as in would you like a shake with that? and loads more they innocent even after a trial and being banged up. These women know exactly what they are doing and I have no sympathy whatsoever with them. There is a silver lining though with her being Nigerian having decent food in a Laos nick will stop her getting as fat as the rest of them.

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