Wednesday, 8 April 2009

Watching them watching you........


The UK is collaborating with the German, Dutch and Czech governments on a secret research project on how to effectively block the distribution of material online.

Officials across Europe are concerned about websites that are hosted outside the EU and so cannot be taken down from the Internet. It's thought governments will explore technical measures such as filtering technologies, as well as international cooperation on take-down notices issued to ISPs.

The European Commission has agreed to fund a project, alluded to in the Home Office's recently published counter-terror strategy, CONTEST 2, as "a significant EU project with Commission support". The European Commission refused to say how much funding it had awarded. "The details of the awarded grant are still subject to an agreement in writing which implies further scrutiny of the budget estimate submitted by Germany and its project partners," a spokeswoman said.

According to the Home Office, UK hosting providers have been cooperative in voluntarily removing material. In CONTEST 2 however, officials appeared frustrated that the powers to enforce take-down, granted by Section 3 of the Terrorism Act 2006, were useless overseas. "The greater problem is that most of the material of concern is hosted on web servers overseas," they wrote. "Section 3 notices can be issued to ISPs outside the UK but cannot be enforced."

Now the one word I have left out of this so far is that over used term 'extremist'. The report states that it is concerning the distribution of 'Islamic extremist material online'.

Naturally it would be discriminatory to merely block 'Islamic extremist material', so who doubts that this exercise will also be used to block output from bloggers who have taken care to host their material outside of the European Union? Will Guido or OH be considered extremist?

33 comments:

shibby said...

Oh bloody hell. OH & writers, your site will be one of those to go!

I'm THIS close to actually becoming an extremist by their own doing. What can be done to stop their atrocities?

(oh hi government by the way, all of the above is fictional)

defender said...

Yea, I would say that you are an extremist, fundementally fucked and about to do jihad.
We all are, I am radicalised, definately a threat to the planet.

Roger Thornhill said...

If most of the content is overseas, why are they busy building a wall around the local sites?

Answer: it is not a defence, but a prison.

Goodnight Vienna said...

Thanks Anna. It's been on the cards for a while. Who will care if the blogs are closed down? Who will care if they can't get their news online? There won't be an outcry. Bloggers are being marginalised and discredited.,

defender said...

Whoops, scuse me Anna, thought it was OH post. Ignore my post, the only thing extreme about you is your lovliness.

Anonymous said...

Anyone not on message can be considered an extremist. This will continue (incrementally, so the watchers of east enders and man united wont notice) until the net is on the floor and handcuffed. They would really like to be like an online version of radio 4. Talk about "empowering people" is all well and good until people actually have the means of some "empowerment". They really dont like that.

Anonymous said...

This is a job for CYBOMAN,
has anyone got his e mail address?

Anna Raccoon said...

Why, Masser defender, you old silver tongued devil you........

K. MacEgan said...

The nearest non EU territory is Kaliningrad.(Don't give me jive about Switz,Norway,they get gobbled up)OK after me,all together now "Cie pan po polska mova?" "Kalbate Lietuvas?" "Ponil pa russki yazik?"

Caravaggio's Cat said...

Evening all. I recognise this is somewhat off-topic, but I'm looking for advice. I wish to get some idea of my MP's (Christine Russell, useless brown nose, Chester) expenses. I'm not sure if this is feasible, but saw in a previous post allusions to expenses from your MP.

Any help appreciated OH and followers.

shibby said...
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fink of da kidz said...

Fucking wankers, ways and means folks.

If you're not for us you must be a paedophile.

Anonymous said...

The EU again eh. Some "Common Market" thats turned out to be. Sailor boy Heath should be disinterred and broken on the wheel. De Gaulle should be given a posthumous George Cross for initially saying "non".

Anonymous said...

DON'T PANIC!

This is pretty meaningless. Instead of surfing direct to the web site of your dreams (are you reading this OH) just use a proxy.

You surf to the (non-EU) proxy and the proxy surfs to OH, passing the data back to you.

There's an application called TOR (http://www.torproject.org/) that bonds to your browser. Press the TOR button on your browser and your packets are routed god knows where, thus circumventing the EU firewall.

TOR slows things down but it can't be blocked and your IP address will never get into Holborn's server logs. Handy in case his disk array is mysteriously stolen one night.

Foxy Brown said...

I shall no doubt be sent to a gulag in the Outer Hebrides for reading your blog, which is great by the way.

it's either banned or compulsory said...

Time to kill them all, figuratively speaking, of course.

Old Holborn said...

Figuratively?

Anonymous said...

Caravaggio's Cat

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p_Q3_-CakkCvX7ZpN3GexUA

or Guido's goto bottom click on page 4 link to pdf half way down

Anonymous said...

@22:43

nice - easy to read, easy to do.

fuck 2006/24/EC and RIPA logging.

fuck the Enemy Within.

JHC

Anonymous said...

REPOST..

Note the link I gave above. It points to a special type of vpn called tor. Usually vpns req a "vpn server" at the far end of the encrypted connection. This doesn't, and is therefore useful to bods who just have their own pc and not a fuckin server farm.

It also protects against dsn leakage & is used by fully legit organisations like the USnavy. I doubt even a wannabe gauleiter like smiff can make the association "USnavy"="terrrst" stick.

The critical step in protecting yourself against 2006/24/EC and RIPA logging is to ENCRYPT YOUR TRAFFIC AS IT MOVES THROUGH YOUR ISP. They still log you of course but its all completely unreadable encrypted junk from the viewpoint of the little nazi snooping your traffic sometime in the future.

The more you encrypt the better. Just using https:// and a non-isp dns server makes the gestapos job a fuck sight harder.

You think they are going to spend manweeks piecing discrete dns packets together at a packet level from the ellacoya and then associating it with a TLS1.1 stream? Maybe for TargetCriminal#1 but just to find that I sometimes use rude words on Guido? I don't think so. You blend in with all the average joes logging on to https://sainos-bank.co.uk.

ENCRYPTION = FREEDOM

JHC

(OH - if you don't want repetitive posts, say so - its your blog, boyo)

caesars wife said...

i thought australia was trying somthing similar ??

be with you as long as i can OH , find a way if we do start going down , doubt they would take down press bloggs.

besides i really dont know anyone now who thinks labour are worth voting for

mindpuke said...

20:32

someone please pass the fucking bucket...yaoooororghhhgop

Wrinkled Weasel said...

Various use of encryption and or proxies is a good idea, but unless Europe executes a China style Firewall, backed up by threat of imprisonment, they will be plugging a very leaky sieve.

If the Tomlinson affair has taught me one new lesson, it is that the authorities do not have control of the new media and never will. Daniel Hannan should have underlined that.

Ever wondered why computers are affected by viruses? Still? After 20 years of viruses? It's because the hackers are playing a cat and mouse game. Many can hack the Pentagon whenever they wish.

Any plans to systematically block access can be systematically unblocked. Any attempt to block sites requires a human being to make an arbitrary decision about its content. It would be "I'm Spartacus" gone global.

spark up said...

oh shame, hoist by your own bastard you stupid cunts. if you will insist on presenting a radicalized view of muslims, you are handing the great british dictatorship the very ammunition they require. go fuck yourself holborn - oh sorry, you already did.

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wowgoldworld said...

Greeting! What do you think of wow gold? I always lack of wow gold to buy some great item for my char before the wow patch 3.1 and I need to do wow power leveling for the cheapest wow gold or I have to search cheap wow gold on google search. The world changed since the 3.1 patch released. Short of buy wow gold for me wasn't so high frequency now. And I’m curious why this situation happened? The items became cheap? Or we can farm wow gold much easy? Hope someone can give me an answer.

Anonymous said...

Spark Up and fuck off.

hated by all? said...

Could this be the definitive article on Chav culture, how it was created and why?

http://isupporttheresistance.blogspot.com/2009/04/first-casualties.html

Anonymous said...

Hands up those who think the Tories will repeal this?

defender said...

hated by all? said...

Could this be the definitive article on Chav culture, how it was created and why?

http://isupporttheresistance.blogspot.com/2009/04/first-casualties.html

09 April 2009 08:13

I do hope ANNA has a read of that link.

Chalcedon said...

Guido is in Eire so within the EU.

We all knew way back in the early nineties that governments would one day try to control the internet. It was too anarchic for them and bypassed all state controlled propaganda and issued press statements. It made us free once again at least as far as speech and communications are concerned. they hate freedom really. they are all at heart control freaks. This terrorism is a complete bluff to steal freedoms from the people. the EU is a dictatorship and wants absolute control and no dissention.

Papiren! Schnell!!

Biffo said...

@hatedbyall?
Thank you for your link to a very interesting & thought provoking piece of writing. Being involved in the current education system (albeit in a volunteer role) I can see only too well the results of 12 years of Labour Education Policy. Deliberate dumbing down, deliberate lack of responsibility, deliberate lack of discipline because of course a jobless, benefits dependent underclass hasn't got the ability or the wish to question government. No doubt, when push comes to shove that same underclass will be fed the politics of envy & sent out to attack anyone or any group that dares to speak up against the Dictatorship. So everyone needs to speak up & be counted NOW to prevent us arriving at 'when push comes to shove'.

AngryDave said...

More fucking abuse of terrorism laws to create a prison for the rest of us. When they start sensoring the internet they will be announcing to the world that they are dictatorship.

OH, you will be one of the first to go as disenter and a denier of party line. But, the real fucking terrorists will not be affected, because they will just bitch about being discriminated against. All in the spirit of apeasement, i mean inclusion.

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