Best police in the world, eh!
Not any fucking more.
Who did the latest Post Mortem? Was it another State employee? You can't trust any of them any more (public sector employees that is), from the Police who lie to the Judges that direct a jury on what verdict to return the whole lot of them are rotten to the core.
Whatever happened to all the CCTV from that area which must be the most observed spot in the World.Cameras all tuned of coincidentally, eh?
I read the poor guy was alcoholic - if so then bleeding oesophageal varices - a common finding in chronic alcoholism - could be the reason for the 'abdominal bleeding'- Could it have been caused by vigorous attempts to resuscitate after a possible heart attack?
oesophageal varices usually cause bloody vomiting but causal portal hypertension would be associated with a large spleen which could have been ruptured/contused by minor trauma. Vigorous resuscitation would not usually cause intra-abdominal bleeding. Tomlinson may have had an acquired clotting disorder due to alcohol induced liver damage though.It's all supposition though.
is Major Trauma a cop by any chance ?
IIRC the police are now saying the CCTV cams weren't turned off.
Yup...cams ON apparently:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/5152948/Investigators-admit-they-were-wrong-over-CCTV-of-G20-victim-Ian-Tomlinson.htmlIs it possible for anyone involved in this not to sound totally clueless?
Ano 1656,take a look at this link,seems the first coroner's answers have been questioned before.https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/04/427277.html?c=on Mick.
Do a straight swop with Harry Roberts for the guilty "pig"
If Major Trauma is a cop he certainly is not a doctor - you see Major when the heart stops beating it no longer pumps blood so a haemorrhage cannot occur, thick twat
not quite true as a major haemorrhage can cause a cardiac arrest.
"I read the poor guy was alcoholic ..."Under nuLieBore, anyone who has more that one drink per week is an alcoholic.
ManslaughterThe unjustifiable, inexcusable, and intentional killing of a human being without deliberation, premeditation, and malice. The unlawful killing of a human being without any deliberation, which may be involuntary, in the commission of a lawful act without due caution and circumspection.That is what the 'officer' has been cautioned with.The point is that you are missing is that this second autopsy was kept under wraps for a week, a bloody week.Brown is still spinning, Tomlinson was an alcoholic, De Menezes was a cocaine addict- the spinning is still happenning, because people cannot believe what is happening in this country. They are looking for any civilised explanation.These people in no 10 are not civilised, they are polecats bent on their own preservation at any cost.
Worse case of suicide I ever saw.
Can abdominal bleeding be caused by the behaviour we have seen? Perhaps the impact with the ground would be enough if you're not in the best of health.I have a cynical view that it will not be possible to conclusively pin the cause of death on the whack, shove and fall we have seen. What we haven't seen is any other footage from other 'contact' though.I'm wary of the picture used to illustrate this. A number of protesters went along with fake blood and bandages to make it look like they had been attacked.
I'm wary of the picture used to illustrate this. A number of protesters went along with fake blood and bandages to make it look like they had been attacked.FFS
Gareth - if the police had not assaulted Tomlinson do you think, in all probablilty, that he would still be alive today ? His state of health is irrelevant as the cops have a duty of care.
It used to be said that the Hong Kong Police were the best police force that money could buy. The Met. piss them straight out of the window!
who is the woman in the picture?
Guthrum,Did you not see them in the pictures and on the telly? There were protesters putting fake blood/red paint on themselves. That is why I am wary of photos from the protest.Farmer Geddon,What I am saying is that from the assault we have seen, unless the fatal injury came from the fall which is possible, I don't think a manslaughter charge could be made to stick against that particular copper as they hit Ian Tomlinson on the leg. ie That the fatal blow came during another 'contact' that we haven't seen.So far only that Constable from that incident has been questioned under caution. Or at least that is my understanding of it.
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"These people in no 10 are not civilised, they are polecats bent on their own preservation at any cost. "Guthrum.Easy now! I have two polecats, and they are decent creatures, not like those in no. 10. Much, much nicer, and I'm sure hey even smell nicer too. JD.NO TO LISBON MEANS NO TO LISBON!http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=38059363467&ref=mf
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Do the police still have to wear their id numbers on their uniforms. I haven't studied the latest pics too closely but I can't see anything to identify the individual 'police officers'. They could be from rent a thug for all I could see. In fact, it appears that the police forces throughout the country have decended into that category. "Help the Police", from now on the answer has to be "you must be joking". God help us, they are part of the problem. Who is going to purge all the shit from the country? The task appears too onerous to ever succeed. Even if it was started today, how long before we once more become a civilised nation? I hate socialists for what they have done to us.john in cheshire
The TSG (Tactical Support Group) are known as the the thick and stupid group in the met.All the decent cops have left or sidelined into crap back office jobs.What we are left with are those who have been selected for their pro labour,pro newspeak mindset.Make no mistake the Police are no more than liebores gestapo.I hope the copper and the senior officers in charge that day get what they deserve.
Girl in picture. She sexy.
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