Wednesday, 4 March 2009

You utter dickheads



The National Socialists have used a picture of a Spitfire used by the free Polish Airforce, to define'Britishness/Englishness'

I will repeat it again, the conflict in this country is between Authoritarianism (Con/Lab/Social Democrat)and the big State against Libertarianism.

You can deport every Johnny Foreigner from this country and it will not make a blind bit of difference to the Surveillance State, your economic prospects and whose got all the houses. Ask Idi Amin

36 comments:

The Beast Of Clerkenwell said...

Griffin looks like a short fat dickhead in that photo.

Roger Thornhill said...

And of course the National Socialists are Authoritarian, if not Totalitarian.

Anonymous said...

He's going for the Mark Corrigan demographic. It's political correctness gone mad.

Old Holborn said...

Ha ha

Well spotted

The Beast Of Clerkenwell said...

Mr OH see my advice on the soap dodger
Ill hold the cunts mouth open for you if you like.

Anonymous said...

Actually, who cares? It was a Spitfire. Still a wonderful symbol.

Here's a little story: in 1968 I was on top of a bus going down Voortrekker Road in Cape Town (on the way to buy a car). Glancing out of the window, I had one of those 'out of body' things - there was a Spitfire sitting on a pile of cars in a junk yard. I was off that bus and into the junkyard in a microsecond. Played it very cool. 'What's that?' Spitfire. 'How come it's here'. They landed it wheels up. 'Dear me. Is it damaged?' Not much all the bits are here somwhere. 'OK. How much?' R500 (my annual salary was R2,000). Well, I had no money, nowhere to put it, to keep for posterity, and I wasn't too sure about it, something was slightly wrong about the engine cowling, not like the ones I saw flying around Liverpool as a boy. Years later, I asked by cousin's husband about this and he said he thought it might be a Packard-engined version.

A Spitfire is a Spitfire. It doesn't matter who built it or who had the courage to fly it.
DZ

Arseholes said...

So, what to do then eh?

All the fuckers are at it in parliament.

Total root and branch reform needed, if it requires civil war so be it.

Anonymous said...

I beg to differ, throwing out all the immigrants who only come here for benefits would make a tremendous difference.

Over 10,000 council houses are given to immigrants each year.
Add to that the fees that go to private landlords it makes Goodwins pension look like a weekly giro.

Polish spitfire? so fucking what.

Chris said...

I think Roderick Spode up there should have kept his original pencil moustache and footer bags look. The fat Tory farmboy look suits Tories better.

Guthrum said...

I beg to differ, throwing out all the immigrants who only come here for benefits would make a tremendous difference.

And make more Lebensraum for the indigineous benefit seekers !

Stop the benefits you idiot, and people will stay in their nice warm countries, there would be no logic for them to come here unless they are hard working, speak the language and well qualified, stop the welfare state at source full stop, and we can all have a better standard of life. zero taxes more money flowing round the economy, more jobs. Which bit don't you understand

Anonymous said...

chucking out all the immigrants would indeed be a start in making our country DECENT once again, all the benefit to be gained for OUR people would have a knock-on effect.

Old Holborn said...

I'm with Guthrum

If you pay people to sit on their arses all day, they'll travel half way around the world for the opportunity

R Nosgrove said...

You're missing the point, probably deliberately.

The BNP may be racist and sometimes even laughable, but the mere fact that so many people know exactly what they stand for but are still prepared to vote for them sends a powerful message to the main parties - 'until you start listening to us, even the BNP is preferable to you lot'.

The BNP may be authoritarian, but if the alternative is a totalitarian labour government, why not have one that at least puts Britain's interests first?

Anonymous said...

The BNP don't want to throw out every foreigner. They are the only party that that stands between us and the twin evils of the EUSSR and the islam threat.
Urban11

Tadeusz Nowierski said...

Why do you trust the Daily Telegraph as a source for your 'libertarian' postings?


"The British National Party loves Europe but hates the EU, said Nick Griffin in a special tribute message to the Polish Spitfire pilots who served in the Royal Air Force during World War II.

“We have deliberately used a Spitfire from the RAF No. 303 Polish Fighter Squadron as our backdrop in the ‘Battle of Britain’ road show for the European elections,” Mr Griffin said.

The BNP leader made the remarks while speaking to a Polish TV crew who came along to film the first road show event in Coventry last Saturday night. Mr Griffin went out of his way to point out to the TV crew that the image used on the backdrop was a Polish piloted Spitfire."


http://bnp.org.uk/2009/03/bnp-loves-europe-hates-the-eu-says-nick-griffin-in-tribute-to-polish-spitfire-pilots/

Dave H said...

Not another fat one-eyed cunt.

Guthrum said...

Tadeusz

From the BNP site

On current demographic trends, we, the native British people, will be an ethnic minority in our own country within sixty years. To ensure that this does not happen, and that the British people retain their homeland and identity, we call for an immediate halt to all further immigration, the immediate deportation of criminal and illegal immigrants, and the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question. We will abolish the ‘positive discrimination’ schemes that have made white Britons second-class citizens. We will also clamp down on the flood of ‘asylum seekers’, all of whom are either bogus or can find refuge much nearer their home countries.


Griffin and the BNP is anti immigrant white,yellow,black, brown

Their history is not populated with Poles fighting and dying against Nazis in the Battle of Britain, North Africa,Monte Cassino and Arnhem.

Nick M said...

At the risk of appearin g a pedant.... 303 Sqdn converted from Hurricanes to Spitfires in 1941 and that does like a Mk5 to me anyway so that picture has frig all connection to the BofB anyway.

Oh, and the BNP are socialist wankers.

Tadeusz said...

You have still got the story wrong though haven't you? And taken it thirdhand from the Daily Torygraph

To call the BNP Nazis is a fundamental misunderstanding of National Socialism - Hitler wanted a greater European state if I remember correctly? There were lots of Poles living and working in Germany fom 1939 to 1945....

The BNPs policies are closer to the Serbian Left Wing ethnic nationalism of Milosevic - a state which was crushed because it threatend EU expansion

This is not to defend the BNP, but the reason the Torygraph are publishing such stories is because they are shit scared of them, why repeat the bullshit?

Guthrum said...

You have still got the story wrong though haven't you? And taken it thirdhand from the Daily Torygraph

err no, I linked to the DT, but I could have linked to hald a dozen other periodials, it is illustrative- my comments were in the post

To call the BNP Nazis is a fundamental misunderstanding of National Socialism - Hitler wanted a greater European state if I remember correctly? There were lots of Poles living and working in Germany fom 1939 to 1945....

The BNP is a Nationalist Party and it is proud to call itself the 'real' Labour Party ie Socialist, you need to read their policy documents'

You remember incorrectly, he wanted a German Empire with Lebensraum in the East, with the Slavs deported, enslaved or murdered, his policy document is Mein Kampf



The BNPs policies are closer to the Serbian Left Wing ethnic nationalism of Milosevic - a state which was crushed because it threatend EU expansion

So we agree it is a National-Socialist movement, it was crushed because it assisted in deportations,ethnic cleansing and murder

This is not to defend the BNP, but the reason the Torygraph are publishing such stories is because they are shit scared of them, why repeat the bullshit?

Yes, you are defending the BNP, if you want to vote for them , they are legal party in this country, but do so with your eyes wide wide open.

They are a National-Socialist movement as you agree, you should read the history of the BNP back to the neo nazi movements post war, the splits, the personality cults through to the NF and to the BNP.

Guthrum said...

I want less intolerant Authoritarian Socialism, not more Totalitarian Socialism

Tadeusz said...

"err no, I linked to the DT, but I could have linked to hald a dozen other periodials, it is illustrative- my comments were in the post"

Why link to a tabloid giving an incorrect story - that the BNP did not know it was a Polish Spitfire, when in fact they did, the Telegraph story is a deliberate smear

"The BNP is a Nationalist Party and it is proud to call itself the 'real' Labour Party ie Socialist, you need to read their policy documents'"

Yes, I refer to them as close to the Serbian communist nationalists?

"You remember incorrectly, he wanted a German Empire with Lebensraum in the East, with the Slavs deported, enslaved or murdered, his policy document is Mein Kampf"

Nope, German nationalism is very different to British nationalism or say Italian or Spanish nationalism as it is based on 'Germanic blood' which covers most of Northern Europe and a lot of Eastern Europe, the German 'nation' to Hitler was not bound by borders

"So we agree it is a National-Socialist movement, it was crushed because it assisted in deportations,ethnic cleansing and murder"

No it was crushed because it opposed becoming part of the EU, the Croatians behaved exactly the same way as the Serbs but because they were 'on side' were armed an helped

"Yes, you are defending the BNP, if you want to vote for them , they are legal party in this country, but do so with your eyes wide wide open."

And the correct information about them, not tabloid bollocks?

"They are a National-Socialist movement as you agree, you should read the history of the BNP back to the neo nazi movements post war, the splits, the personality cults through to the NF and to the BNP."

I know what Nick Griffin was, but the vast bulk of BNP members are closer to old fashioned tories, the BNP is moving to the old right, griffin will eventually be ditched

Guthrum said...

Yes, I refer to them as close to the Serbian communist nationalists?

So even more extreme socialist Nationalists.

I know what Nick Griffin was, but the vast bulk of BNP members are closer to old fashioned tories, the BNP is moving to the old right, griffin will eventually be ditched


Ah the hanging,flogging, authoritarian Tories- that makes it all ok then.

God Help Us !

Tadeusz said...

"So even more extreme socialist Nationalists"

Yes, thats my interpretation of them, collectivist nationalism based on a somewhat cartoon like Victorian sense of 'Britishness'

I am not a BNP supporter, but it amuses me to see the fear with which the mainstream politicians and press now regard them, and expose their own fascist tendencies with regard to a democracy they seem to feel should only apply to the chosen few


"Ah the hanging,flogging, authoritarian Tories- that makes it all ok then.

God Help Us !"

God help us?

I read this blog and the general tone seems to be that Gordon has destroyed this countries education system, economy, military, independence, liberty etc

All things which were by and large put in place by the Old Tories

Or have I got that wrong, in which case what exactly are you bemoaning?

killemallletgodsortemout said...

As a symbol, the Spitfire is far better than the NewLabia red rose.

Flowery on top, with lots of nasty little pricks below.

Anonymous said...

"I know what Nick Griffin was, but the vast bulk of BNP members are closer to old fashioned tories, the BNP is moving to the old right, griffin will eventually be ditched"

Massive hairy bollocks. If that's the case, why don't you ditch him now? Purge your party of "ethno-nationalists" and concentrate on the "old right" if that's what's really important to you.

Tadeusz said...

"Massive hairy bollocks. If that's the case, why don't you ditch him now? Purge your party of "ethno-nationalists" and concentrate on the "old right" if that's what's really important to you."

why not use your fucking eyes to read my coments where it states I am not a member or supporter of the BNP? Fuckwit

Anonymous said...

Muslim President of Chechnya Endorses Honour Killings

This is what Britain can expect to look forward to unless something is done about the rising tide of Islam in this country.

And I don't think these people will care much for the finer points of your 'Libertarian' arguments once they get their way.

it wasnae me i'm a glibertarian! said...

Whats all this bullshit - it wasnt me guv im a pie in the sky zero councilors, zero public recognition Libertarian self rightous no solution middleclass fuckwit?

It's all the fault of the chavs it is!!!

You are the very same people now caught with your pants round your ankles who led us to the hell we are now facing claiming to know what is good for us - often clinging to your Tory dogma blanky that helped shape much of the shit we now face.

Did someone mention chavs?

Not the nationalists who warned us of many of the horrors we now face, and other us many of the real life solutions, unlike the pie in the sky brigade.

The glibertarians.

Guthrum said...

Tad-All things which were by and large put in place by the Old Tories

Nope all put in place by classical Liberals- The Tories reacted against all reform

Anon 16.40 Lets invade Chechnya- seem to work in Iraq and Afghanistan !

16.55

Not the nationalists who warned us of many of the horrors we now face, and other us many of the real life solutions,

Like get rid of the blacks,Spics,dagos,wops, Muslims and we will live in paradise, or hopefully a Serbian Communist Nationalist Society.

Lets have Death Squads as well thats a good Authoritarian standby

Anonymous said...

I couldn't give a shit what you smug Glibertarians (for that's what you'll be known as henceforth) think, I'm *still* voting BNP at the Euro elections.

As, I suspect, are a great many other pissed off citizens, subjects, call us what you will...

You smug Glibertarians are as much a part of the problem as Comrade Gordon McBroon and his Zanu-Labour Anti-Fascist (sic) stooges...

Anonymous said...

Everyone knows, or so I thought, it was not the Spitfire but the HURRICANE which won the Battle of Britain.

Adrian P said...

I love your blog you Grumpy Old Bastard, and I normally nod in agreement at most if not everything you say, but I believe your attcak on the BNP is Fatally flawed on a large number of counts you are being worked and manipulated by the Pro EU Propaganda machine.

Firstly, the very fact that you cannot throw out every foreigner does not mean that you cannot deport and Induce ( financially before you all go off on one again )
A significant proportion to leave.
Many are only here for Benefits, cut it and they sell their homes, take their savings and flee.

close the borders, deport illegals and those that commit crimes here.
The BNP even state on their site that some will be allowed to stay.

All the BNP want is to set the Bar far far higher on entry.

The BNP for example were one of the Strongest advocates the Ghurkas should be allowed to settle as they even more than most of us had earned that right.

Secondly, and perhaps most importantly, their Manifestio Quite clealy states they intend, one swept into no 10 to retrun the Right to bear arms again to British citizens, includion the issuance, Just like on Switzerland of issuing Semi automatic Rifles to adults, just as in Switzerland.

The right to bear arms is one of the Chief cornerstones of a Free society.

You are of course correct, the battle is between Despotism and Libertarianism, but just because they are not called the
Libertarian party does not mean they are Despots.

And why is it that when anyone attacks the BNP they never provide a link to their Website so they can back up their claims.

We Love Europe but hate the EU says Griffin in Tribute to Polish WWII Pilots


and as for Serbian atrocities, I think you will find that MI6 recruited Muslims, some from the UK to carry out Terror attacks on Serb Nationals in Kosovo and other places, provoking a Response from Serbia so that we could be suitable outraged and then Smash Serbia which did not Want the EUSSR.

You must lear to stop trusting the Mainstream news.

The UN for example has said there were no Serb Death camps and that the Mainstream Media LIED to us.

I'm quite sure there were Killings all round but
UN Says No Serbian Gneocide attempts

If these links do not work because for some mysterious reason they have been taken down, do a web search on 'the picture that fooled the world'
You will all rememeber this photo, it showed, skinny Kosovans INSIDE a Serb Death camp, Only it Wasn't.

The ITN News crew were INSIDE the fence/camp and the Kosovars were on the outside and had come to see what was being filmed.
The ITN several times tried to get thtem to say they were being mistreated but they said no, the Serbs were looking after them, but it was hot.
The skinny guy, actually had a medical condition which made him that way and he only took his shirt off when she said are you getting enough food, you look underfed, he said, you want to see skinny look at this..
The concentration camp lie

MI6 recruited Muslims for Kosovo

Stop being worked and Manipulated by the EU.

Guthrum said...

You are of course correct, the battle is between Despotism and Libertarianism, but just because they are not called the
Libertarian party does not mean they are Despots


'You miss quote- the battle is between Authoritarianism and Libertarianism' not Despotism.

Libertarian want to be left along, and have a small state only dedicated to Defence, the only legitimate role of the State. The BNP are Left Authoritarian, who want a coercive State to carry out their program, and are quite happy to execute people and flog citizens (it is on the BNP site)

Pray tell me how Libertarians are Despots, when we want a minarchist State and the EU ripped up ??

The BNP is promising all sorts of social benefits to be delivered by the State, that requires a coercive State.

Adrian P said...

They are also proposing to restore the right to bear arms and to keep democracy, which means any current policies are up to the will of the people.
how much say do we have now when 80% of our laws are made up in Brussels.
We will have more say with the BNP than ANY of the Maintream Political Parties.
Any you can have a ( reduced ) welfare state and be libertarian.

Currently Govt Borrows our money form their Bankster Friends.
It is not backed by anything, it is worthless paper it costs the Banksters 1p to print a £50 note yet Westminster Borrows these AT FULL FACE VALUE.
Forcing us to pay this loan back through Taxation.
this is totally unnecesary.
Instead of Borrowing our money we should coin it ourselves and issue that into the economy FREE OF CHARHE, no borrowing, no loan to pay back, no Govt Debt, therefore, NO INCOME TAX.
OF course you cannot just print money willy nilly ( well you can if its gold and Solver or other such precious metal) But if we had Printed EXACTLY the same amount of worthless legal tender as we had Borrowed over the past decades, what would our National Debt be ( currently £2Trillion )

Answer, it would be ZERO.

Westminster is a charade, they are working for the Banks

So there is how you can issue currency into the economy free of charge nor loan payback and still pay for vital public services WITHOUT forcing the public to pay for it.

Especially since it is BNP polict to restore the right to bear Arms.
Join the Campaign for Liberty

Anonymous said...

sink council estates and a massive rare up?
look at normal (what you cunts look at as idiots)people out of the back of beyond,at least sock-eye is worth ten libertarians yarping on about good news gone bad?
He might be a cunt but at least on your side, you boring twats!
i am not a bnp supporter

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