Monday, 9 March 2009

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Migrantwatch is pointing to successive policy failure since 1998 for the changing face of Britain.

I don't think there has been a policy failure in this country at all, I think this is a Labour Policy success, they wanted an exponential growth in their client State, so they did not have to fear spending decades in the political wilderness again. The fact that they are going to do so again is because of their maladmistration of the economy, and they have now created a fertile breeding ground for the Authoritarian Left over a culturally divided country.

The Righteous have always screamed racist at anybody who challenged their policies, the Social Democrats have tagged along with the same game. The Tories it could be argued encouraged immigration to subvert the inevitable rise in real incomes that would have come about for the working classes in the 50's and 60's had the market been allowed to operate.

Deporting the 'ethnic population' is the only core policy of the Authoritarian Left, they want the rest of the welfare State left in place for white Britain.

Wholesale immigration has its own internal logic, enjoying benefits on this side of the world is preferable to starving in your own land, the added benefit for Labour is that they want to encourage these newcomers to actually vote for them, with the promise of more benefits.

The termination of welfareism, would eradicate the inflow of immigrants, and would ensure the immobile benefit seekers would have to start shifting for themselves.

The sight of so may Labour politicians willing to seen and photographed in 'ethnic' garb over the last ten years is ample demonstration of the divisions they have foisted on us all, and they want us to pay for.

It is impossible for the UK to have open borders and welcome those that are skilled, when the scab of welfarism ensures only the workshy and indolent benefit as a result of government policy,plus sucking in the indolent from other countries as well.

26 comments:

JD said...

If we were to abolish the NHS alone we could simultaneously abolish income tax. Think how much money we could save, or even get back, if we abolished the rest of the waste of money that is called the welfare state. We could even be so well off we could afford to do without it. Trouble is, this is a good idea, so will remain untroubled by government. Oh well, JD.
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Anonymous said...

"Deporting the 'ethnic population' is the only core policy of the Authoritarian Left, they want the rest of the welfare State left in place for white Britain."

I assume that by 'Authoritarian Left' you mean the BNP - am I right in this assumption ?

If so, then I have to ask you this - just what *exactly* would you do about the ever-increasing number of immigrants (illegal or not) that continue to flood into this country, Guthrum.

Would you, for example, advocate deporting the illegal benefit scroungers ?

Please can you answer this question as directly and honestly as possible ? I think this is a serious and thorny issue, but one which we *must* tackle.

The Righteous have succeeded for too long in demonising any rational discussion of this problem, simply by playing their 'racism' trump card whenever it suits them.

What do others who post here think ?

Goodnight Vienna said...

"The workers from the eight new accession countries (A8) were, Lord Mandelson said, “helping to fill gaps in our labour market British nationals are either not available to fill or are unwilling to fill,” he said."

I am so sick of hearing words like these.

How many years have we been told we are'lazy'; how many years have we been told we are 'racist'?

We welcomed all faiths to our country before this shower of shits started their social engineering and appeasement.

I'm tired of hearing British people described as lazy, racist, good-for-nothing chavs. There's something in the British character that rebels against labels and conformity. Perhaps we're all terrorists now.

'And now I'm gonna spoil it all by saying something stupid like ... ' "fucking stupid bastard government."

Anonymous said...

I too loath the constant 'lazy British' that I hear more and more immigrants saying as well as this pitiful Government.
I guess the last 40 years of working shifts with sometimes 16 hour days simply don't count.
Its all well rehearsed dogma coming from the mouths of the most anti English Government known to man.
The scum in charge had better keep away from the streets of the common man.

bofl said...

immigration was originally seen as a way to get cheap labour.....

it continues to be so.......

many immigrants are working and living in very poor conditions......
.ie the chinese workers at morecambe bay.
yes they come from all over the world for shit wages and sleep 10 to a room.


but of course the people at the top are making shedloads........

in the past keeping wages low kept inflation figs. low......which suited all govts.
(now they just fiddle them)!

meanwhile millions of uk workers remain un-used.......

so much for the caring party called Labour.......remember the ones that are for the working man!

Guthrum said...

I guess the last 40 years of working shifts with sometimes 16 hour days simply don't count.


My point exactly- they don't count because the righteous have ensure that while you and I graft, we are subsidising others watching daytime TV through choice. Even Tom Harris MP has finally woken up to this.

With a deal like that on offer, people from all over are going to want to live here.

Only by abolishing the welfare State is this ever going to end.

Goodnight Vienna said...

You don't need to abolish the sacred cow of the Welfare State - you just need to limit it; take it back to its beginnings. It was conceived as a safety net and never intended to be a life-choice.

Anonymous said...

i kite a grebe - no benefits and no NHS - you get what you pay for and fuck all else.

electro-kevin said...

Abolish welfare.

I see that Boris Johnson is at it again. Calling for an amnesty for 500k illegal immigrants.

The one issue that unites the vast majority being their main concern and he calls it wrong.

What an over rated Hoon.

Anonymous said...

if i was in charge, i would identify the few hundred burglars and general scumbags per town, the 0.001% that does 80% of the crime, and send them free tickets for holidays through the post, congratulations you have been selected at random etc etc. with all the rotten eggs in one basket? oh dear, and air travel is usually so safe these days, very sad....
as for immigrants, work and be welcome; pay your way or fuck off

Anonymous said...

NHS - £100bn
Education - £40bn
Defence - £30bn

Welfare - £180bn and rising exponentially

Total government 'spending' (it'll be a lot more in future) - £621bn

Says a lot, doesn't it. Just think of all that extra money that could be left in people's pockets to spend as they think fit.

Oh, sorry, it's socialism, isn't it.

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Anonymous said...

This mess is clearly not incompetence. Describing it as incompetence is being generous. It amounts to treachery committed to pursue political ends.
Not even this government, one of the most incompetent in history could be so consistenly incompetent.

Anonymous said...

When the Muslims get their own state within the UK the first thing they will do is hang the gays, stone the women who show immodesty and shoot the liberal fuckwits who allowed them to infest this once great nation.

So that's Lord Mandy fucked on all three counts.

Harrithebastard said...

One particular ' Industry ' which appears to be booming in the UK, is whore houses?

And 99.9% appear to be filled to the rafters with Eastern Europeans, ( me mate told me ) honest , so thats what they meant by ' free trade '

Free .. theres fuck all free about it , 40 of your earth pounds ( apparently so me mate says ) for ten of your earth minutes?

Now thats what i call ' free movement ' and by fuck was she an athlete ( according to me mate Dave )

Now i know what Jaqui means by having a 'crackdown' ?

Rab C. Nesbitt said...

Now and again I have the need to wander into town. I've noticed that the big issue sellers, (I never buy it), appear to be eastern european gypsy types. Fuck me, we are even importing down and outs now.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
When the Muslims get their own state within the UK the first thing they will do is hang the gays, stone the women who show immodesty and shoot the liberal fuckwits who allowed them to infest this once great nation.

Ironically those are amongst the groups that were foremost in being "tolerant" about immigration. A sort of indiscriminate tolerance that may well back fire on them. The tolerant encouraging the intolerant?? Bizarre.

GOLLY WOGan said...

Harri:
".. theres fuck all free about it , 40 of your earth pounds ( apparently so me mate says ) for ten of your earth minutes?"

Nine and a half minutes to wash your bollocks in the lavotory before you have to be on your way. ( so me mate told me )

Rab: Classic!!

Old Holborn said...

Until we created the Welfare State, there were 12 Muslims in the UK.

Now there are in excess of 2 Million

Anonymous said...

One way of cutting back on the welfare state which would kill several birds with one stone is the following:

Basically say that after the first two children, a family must pay the full cost of any public service they use for their third, fourth or fifth child. That means a family must fork out the £5k per child per year which they presently get free just to send him/her to school.

If this policy doesn't cut population growth I don't know what will. We certainly won't have anymore immigrant families over here with 6 kids.

This would kill any hope of the muslims outbreeding us;
It would appease environmentalists who think our country is overpopulated;
And it'd make things a damn sight fairer.

Naturally it's got zero chance of ever happening.

Guthrum said...

Basically say that after the first two children, a family must pay the full cost of any public service they use for their third, fourth or fifth child.

It is not the State's responsibility to bring up any child, that is the responsibility of the parents.

Anonymous said...

Guthrum 21.05

I never said it wasn't the responsibility of parents to raise children. The point I was making is that if you want to cut the welfare state, how about looking for a way to cut the subsidy spent on state education (other benefits which could be looked at include how much the state subsidises parents who are particularly fecund i.e. housing benefit etc)? I'm not sure you've got the point of what I'm saying (then again maybe you have and I've missed your point).

The fact of the matter is state education is free at the point of use for any child. This is education subsidised by the state. If I have 6 children, I get subsidised by the state up to £30k per annum to send my children to state school. and if I earn £10k a year I'm certainly not paying much towards to that subsidy. Other people are.

Roger Thornhill said...

Anon, 21:28

I think Guthrum is saying "what do you mean 'after the first two'?"

No social engineering.

it's either banned or compulsory said...

"hang the gays, stone the women who show immodesty and shoot the liberal fuckwits"
Fantastic, where do I sign up ?

More seriously though, they have been lieing to us for forty years about the levels of migration into this country. You only have to look out of the window to know this. One particular lie is to always use the figure of " net migration " which deducts the number of native Brits with the sense to leave from the number of incomers. This totals about 2 million this past decade, which sum they deduct from the incoming total.
They clearly believe that we are stupid, perhaps we are.

Anonymous said...

Guthrum,

Is there any chance of you answering the question I asked here ?

http://bastardoldholborn.blogspot.com/2009/03/welcome-to-casbah.html?showComment=1236612480000#c8818791984014670475

I'm curious to know what the Libertarian position is re: the deportation of illegal immigrants.

Are you in favour of an amnesty perhaps ?

Anonymous said...

Your silence is truly deafening Guthrum.

Maybe its difficult to speak when you've got so much Muslim cock in your mouth...

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