Tuesday, 3 February 2009

Why I am a Libertarian

This morning driving through the snow watching BMW 's shunting into each other, and their owners leaping out to hysterically inspect the damage to their pride and joy, I was listening to Frederico Lorca's niece talking about the death of her poet uncle at the hands of the Falangists in the Spanish Civil War.

The Lorca family do not want his body to be disinterred from one of three possible mass grave sites. He lies where he lies and we would learn nothing from his remains if they were found. Lorca was executed by a right wing grouping intolerant of his homosexuality, his left wing views and above all his writing. Despite being one of the major writers of the twentieth Century, his works were banned in Spain until Franco's death.

At the other end of the scale of political executions we have the destruction of the Polish officer and intellectual class at Katyn. For decades it was argued who had carried out these massacres, the SS or the NKVD, in the end it was confirmed by eye witnesses as the NKVD, but my point was that it was entirely plausable that either side could have carried this out in the name of their ideology.

Since then we have had Pol Pot's exterminations, that extolled leftist 'back to being peasants' ideology that first found root in the Left Bank of Paris 'bohemia' in the thirties. The Right Wing death camps in former Yugoslavia, and ethnic massacres in Darfur and Rwanda.

All of these State ideologies, Left wing, Right wing, Ethnic and Religious have two things in common. A complete disregard for the value for human life and an utter intolerance for any other viewpoint or value system.

Lorca's niece said for her father there was a complete 'heavy weight of his abscence' for fifty years. This is true I feel for every relative of a victim of political murder.

We are in a perilous position at present, the economic order that we have known for sixty years has collapsed. We have an extreme Government that believes that it is right that it should know everything about us, to discern any threat of politcal dissent, and Tories should also remember that Thatcher talked about the enemy within, about her fellow citizens who opposed her policies. Those that are at the top of the current political tree are unconstrained by anything approaching a written Constitution were we can declare their actions unconstitutional. At present we should be grateful they have not turned against the people, and the people have turned against them. That way leads to mass burial pits.

The Government have interned without trial before, and this led to a bloody backlash, do not think it will never happen again.

The BMW drivers I saw this morning alternately weeping or raging over the damage to their precious cars, have been bought off by the trinkets of life by the State, what will happen when these trinkets disappear with their jobs and homes. They will look to any extreme party that will give them back their sense of security, if that means the destruction of a couple of hundred lives that will not agree to be coerced by the State, they will either ingore it or sanction political murder.

I value human life above all, I respect other peoples points of view, even though I may disagree with them- that is why I am a Libertarian. I want to be left alone. However unless the State Left or Right reforms itself with a respect for the Liberal values that made it great, it will have to be compelled to reform for our own self defence against an oppressive State.


The Penguin said...

"Science has never killed or persecuted a single person for doubting or denying its teaching, and most of these teachings have been true; but religion has murdered millions for doubting or denying her dogmas and most of these dogmas have been false." G. P. Spencer, died 1908

And now, politics, the new religion.

The Penguin.

Wrinkled Weasel said...

I did that test over on Dale's today and it turns out I am a left-leaning libertarian and not the Daily Mail reading homophobe they think I am over there.

I think that our main political parties are shite, for the reasons you have given and more, so where do I vote to get rid of them?

Ampers said...

Well said,

I have been a Libertarian all my life but only found out a few months ago.

You can find out if you are a Libertarian here

Ampers said...

link didn't work


haddock said...

I did that test some time ago.... and again today... both times right on the cross hairs; Mr Average me !

I don't believe the results.

Anonymous said...

"A complete disregard for the value for human life and an utter intolerance for any other viewpoint or value system."

On the other hand, we can soldier on as we've done in the past.

The problem arises when, having been banged on the head out of Christian ideals, the hope of making the world better for others is gone. It's a corporate world out there.

Soldier on.

Anonymous said...

The problem with British political life is that whoever gets in power rules for the few at the expence of the masses, sadly UKIP the Libertarians et al are no different, I fully understand that we are not all equal and that we don't all deserve all the fine things in life.

Respect for all and a fair crack of the whipeveryone regardless of background? Nah, Never, this is Britain, class conscious,selfish and greedy, prepared to turn anyone else off the ladder if they dare to try and join them on their lofty perch.

Ampers said...

Anonymous wrote at 17:21... sadly UKIP the Libertarians et al are no different,

I can't speak for UKIP but a true Liberation government would start handing everything down to County level and withdraw from everything other than Foreign affairs. They would bring our army back to the UK and only fight if we were attacked.

There would be no government interference in our lives at all.

But all this isn't going to happen is it?

Old Holborn said...

Spot on Ampers

No one in Switzerland knows the name of the Prime Minister. When they have a problem, they go to the locally elected Mayor, who they know personally.

Anonymous said...


You say,
"I value human life above all".

There are 6 billion humans and counting on earth. There are say 5,000 tigers left in the world. Is one human life worth more than a rare tiger? Could we do with one less human and one more tiger? If you don't value wildlife, I could use a different analagy. The point is, the more humans we put on the earth, it devalues the worth of those of us already here. We could wipe out half of humanity on earth today and not notice. They'd still be 3 billion of us.

So do you still value human life above all? What if there were so many people on earth it meant you either had to live in a tiny cubed cell as there were so many people taking up so much space, or you had the means to reduce the human population and live in a nice house? Me thinks in such a case you might change your opinion and take the latter option. It's human nature.

Just putting a contrary thought out there.

stanislav, a young polish plumber said...


A word of introduction. Look, at the following extract, beyond the redrag word "Capitalism" and see a well articulated explanation of what's going on in Amurrca, NWO, in EUSSR and in our own Buggins' Turn parliamentary system, where patient pigs eventually get first go at the trough but all get a share. And look at the so-called banking bail-out, a one-way nationalisation of criminal debt, in which, with our notional money, we reimburse the criminal his losses and spend the rest of Time enslaved, in order to balance the books which he and his political stooges have cooked, and which situation results, of course, in the

".....hatred of the dangerous and meddlesome rabble - the noxious citizenry." (ie those who worship here, fractious and disobedient, in cyberspace.)

This, then, from Znet, spirit of resistance:

"Authoritarian Capitalism" - Coming Soon

How democratic are the West's own core political economies? Capitalism has always been about the authoritarian concentration of wealth and power, militantly opposed to the democratic ideal.

Nationalization for the rich without popular oversight and public responsibility is just round the corner.

According to the capitalist Anglo-American weekly magazine The Economist, the current economic crisis could "increase the attractiveness of the Chinese model of authoritarian capitalism for many emerging markets."

A model wherein the central state expands its directive role without any parallel increase in popular governance.

In a report on "The Financial Crisis and the Risks for Democracy," the journal's "intelligence unit" worries about a "discrediting of Western values" (meaning "democracy") across the "developing world".

The term "emerging markets" is curious and revealing code language for poor nations on the periphery of the world capitalist system.

But how democratic are the West's own core political economies? Capitalism has always been about the authoritarian concentration of wealth and power, militantly opposed to the democratic ideal.

Nationalization for the rich without popular oversight and public responsibility is precisely what one should expect, under the terms of what Alex Carey called "corporate-managed democracy" more than 20 years ago.

It is richly consistent with the conduct of what Sheldon Wolin recently described as "Democracy Incorporated" - a new form of "inverted totalitarianism."

Under which the citizenry is converted into a business-coordinated "electorate" and both pro-business wings of Superpower's dominant "one-and-a-half party system" serve the interests of the corporate and financial Few.

The so-called "Chinese model" of authoritarian capitalism holds no small appeal to the bourgeoisie within core states of the world system, not just in "emerging markets." As Le Monde environmental editor Herve Kempf observed two years ago, before the latest recession formally began:

"Capitalism no longer needs democracy....Since the fall of the Soviet Union, the ruling class has become convinced that it no longer needs democracy. Before then, freedom was the best argument to counter the collectivist model.

"It was good for individuals and it promoted much greater economic success. But during the 1990s, the paradigm that linked freedom and capitalism dissolved.

"On the one hand, the extreme right, under the influence of ‘neoconservatives,' elaborated an ideology that made its priorities (the) maintenance of the existing social order and of U.S. dominance.

"On the other hand, the impressive surge of the Chinese economy in a context of continual repression and one-party rule accustomed minds to a possible uncoupling of public freedoms and economic dynamism."

Lest we exaggerate the novelty of "capitalism's" problematic connection to "democracy," let us recall that Benito Mussolini's fascism received early praise from sections of the American and European bourgeoisie for "making the trains run on time."

As far as the Italian henchman's capitalist fans were concerned within and beyond the U.S., the key question to ask of government policy was "does it work and get things done?'" not "does it reflect the needs and the aspirations of the non-affluent and working class majority?"

Beneath Western bourgeois fondness for Italian and later German fascism lay the capitalist oligarchy's longstanding hatred of the dangerous and meddlesome rabble - the noxious citizenry.

The same basic loathing explained the impressive support elite-managed U.S. foreign policy has long granted to repressive "Third World Fascist"; in the words of Chomsky and Edward S. Herman, regimes (e.g. Suharto, Trujillo, the Brazilian generals, the Shah of Iran, Saddam Hussein, Pinochet, the current rulers of Egypt, the Saudi monarchy...the list seems endless) across the planet. The cordoning off of the people from meaningful oversight and influence on what is being done with "their" money makes perfect sense from the perspective of the U.S. investor class. More...

tags: capitalism authoritarian

Source: Znet, the spirit of resistance.


A "business co-ordinated electorate" is a variation on "hard-working families and small businesses, isn't it ?"; the dire, sanctimoniuos catechism of the Ruinous Brownian Utopia, wherein mothers abandon their children to strangers in order to paritipate in "the Economy" as though this was Stalinist Russia at war with Hitler and in order to swell the revenues which keep an army of Mr and Mrs Ballses in eternal luxury, obedient citizens must work harder, for less and for longer - the "Economy" and the Dictatorial State having, somehow, become indivisible, as though the bumbling, avaricious and deceitful Bill I Feel Your Tits Clinton and the HorseFaced Hillary mah husband is a great man he just mis-spunked over all them trash women he was banging Rodham Clinton spoke a universal truth when they grinned, It's the Economy, stupid. What they meant, of course, was - by saying this we will assure, from business, massive "donations" before, during and after our Presidency. In return, business - or The Economy - went unregulated for another sixteen years.

The US "Economy" is fucked and the loathsome Clintons are, just by good luck, sitting on a fortune of hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars, even able to get Obamalama to pay, from his gullible, taxpaying supporters' donations, Hillary's outstanding "debts" - ie loans to herself, a la Harriet SourSister. I loaned this money to myself in order to further my tyranny over the people; the people, therefore should pay it back to me. And if the people can't be made to pay then nicer people like Mr Abrahams should.

Obama, Brown, the Frog pimp and the rest scramble to find ways to better serve their masters in GlobaCorp, the innumerate, fascistic SnorGobbler, kow-towing to the toothy Chink dictator, mutters through his gritted, Domestosed teeth that human rights in China are "on the table," the horrible fucking Jock bastard, as that pair of monsters Do The Right Thing, It's The Economy, Stupid. There is no alliance against us that Brown will not form; the Chink one-party democracy shoots its opponents and harvests their organs before they are cold; starves and brutalises uprooted peasants dragged to the cities to build the New Chink Empire and suppresses all dissent, with the co-operation of the nice people at Google, Brown the Foul - a veteran, of course, of Chinese goons manhandling him, bossing him about in his own front yard - rubbing shoulders, yesterday, with his slope-eyed kindred spirits is a precious Visual Aid to an understanding of what's really goung on - the establishment of a New World Order, an Authoritarian and brutal, Uncle Tom capitalism in the States, an unelected fascism in Europe, a corrupt, murderous spiv oligarchy in the former USSR and the UK parliament collectively denying us a referendum on the abolition of democracy in favour of global totalitarianism. Well, they would. wouldn't they, why bother with the outdated myth of ballot box accountability when total control is around the corner, the G8, the IMF, the World Bank and MediaCorp can decide what's good for us and we can obey. Or else.

Consumerist slavery, it's all that's on offer from any of them. The Economy, a leash to hold us on, a stick to beat us with, a pen to contain us, a warrrant for our elimination. Available with fried rice.

Anonymous said...


It's not all bad. You still have the opportunity to start your own enterprise, be successful and make enough money to find yourself up to your neck in tits and ass.

Of course, if you're not the enterprising type, servitude until death awaits. It's all part of the game. You have to decide what you want. If you can't make enterprise work for you, you have to decide between servitude or revolution.

Anonymous said...

If that is the future Stan, I can see our Gallic cousins setting up a mechanical beheading device on the streets of Paris again.

While we complain and submit.

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