Monday, 23 February 2009

Prepare for a Summer of Rage- Met


One of the things about being an early riser is that you get to hear stories on the BBC that get sat on by the time the rest of the population is up and about.

Number 3 this morning was a warning from the Met about Middle class people who have never been on a protest in their lives taking to the streets and the Met was preparing for a 'Summer of Rage'.

The BBC had squashed this story by the time their flagship 'Today' programme came on air.

Supt Hartshorn, who heads the Metropolitan Police's public order branch, said he feared there could be "mass protest" at rising unemployment, failing financial institutions and the downturn in the economy.

The officer that "known activists" were planning returns to the streets, and intelligence revealed that they may be able to call on more protesters than normal due to the unprecedented conditions.

He told The Guardian: "Those people would be good at motivating people, but they haven't had the 'foot soldiers' to actually carry out (protests).

"Obviously the downturn in the economy, unemployment, repossessions, changes that. Suddenly there is the opportunity for people to mass protest."

Mr Hartshorn, who is regularly briefed on potential causes of civil unrest, singled out April's G20 summit of the leading developed nations in London as one of the events that could kick start a series of protests.

"We've got G20 coming and I think that is being advertised on some of the sites as the highlight of what they see as a 'summer of rage'," he said.

The officer added that banks, particularly those that still pay large bonuses despite receiving billions of aid from the taxpayer, had also become "viable targets" for protesters.

Other parts of Europe have already seen large-scale protests against the handling of the economy.

Up to 120,000 people marched through Dublin on Saturday in an emotional and angry national demonstration over the Irish Government's handling of the economic crisis.

The Telegraph


Hartshorn who is an unelected servant of the State, has coined the phrase ' Summer of Rage' we should start to use it every day until this Government has gone.

His crass statement is a warning, which equates to ' c'mon if you think you are hard enough, we are ready for you' just shows that even though there have been no major distrurbances here, unlike the rest of Europe where Governments are starting to fall, the Police are prepared to make threatening public statements that should have been made by the Home Secretary.

When this Government finally falls he is now near the top of my personal list to be sacked.

For the last three years I have had the following two statements on my blog.

Each of should choose which course of action we must take; education,conventional political action or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes,

But let it not be said we did nothing

Ron Paul

....governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whatever form of government becomes destructive of these ends; it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it.

Jefferson

This is a destructive Government lead by an unelected Prime Minister.

OH Update: A week of Protest beckons and more

Guthrum Update : LBC phone in until 1pm on the Summer of Rage zero confidence in Cameron, even less for Brown.

Mr Hartshorn, considering that he is making public statements on policing matters, is a bit of a secret policeman, very little information can be gleaned other than he is a member of CO11, and met some of the photographers on the recent New Scotland Yard protest

52 comments:

Shirking From Home said...

I mentioned this on Mrs Dale's BNP thread yesterday. Good, I am looking forward to parliament, the government and the media being taken to task in any way possible. They are the guilty ones.

James said...

Typical fucking bbc

Anonymous said...

I watched it too. This is going to be an angry year. The unemployment will rocket and the streams of people entering the Country will rise and rise. Somethings got to break, and the Police will not be able to handle it.

Arseholes said...

Not bothering with GF's blog anymore. Moderation has killed the flow and was one of the reasons I often visited.

As people get angrier, outlets such as these are invaluable.

Just saying like.

Oldrightie said...

Not bothering with GF's blog anymore. Moderation has killed the flow and was one of the reasons I often visited.

-------------------------
I agree with the above completely. "It was Blogs what won it!" has a nice ring. I too, heard that item this morning. A newspaper article, I believe. Demos are on for "BJFBW" this week. A change of Government is the only way to return a semblance of common sense and confidence. This lot have lost it.

electro-kevin said...

I'm not surprised in the slightest.

The rank and file police have to decide which side they're on this time.

It's no good the likes of Inspector Gadget straddling two mindsets as he does.

Arseholes said...

electro-kevin - The Gadgets will 'do their duty' for as much overtime as they can.

Rub their noses in it by taking pictures and video of them. Oh, that has just been made illegal. Fuck that law for starters.

Anonymous said...

I think GF has forgotten what made his blog. Maybe the Dolly spat made him lose his balls.

Prodicus said...

You couldn't sleep either, then. Funny how the WS covers more news-for-grown-ups than /Newsround/ Today, innit?

Barnsley Bill said...

E-K, nice to see you are sneaking out for the odd five minutes now and then.
The cops will suck that overtime like a 50 guilder hooker.
They all have negative equity too.

The Penguin said...

Pretend to be Muslim and they'll run away.

The Penguin

Guthrum said...

All the countries I deal with are two hours ahead.

Swiss Bob said...

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K. McEgan. said...

G8 in early April is the best chance.Harmony of pen & sword.As for your rather tame "first to be sacked" I giggled.It has been said before & will be said now.ANY PLOD IN UNIFORM THE DAY IT STARTS WILL BE TRIED & SENTENCED IN ABSENTIA.I went through Brixton '81/85.Game of football?Blakelocks head?Beiber is a national fucking hero!Tragic Sharon(Beshanevsky)Ha fucking ha!

Shirking From Home said...

LBC (local London radio) having a phone-in re. this.

http://mediaweb.musicradio.com/player/default.asp?s=82&e=0

(seems to fuck up my Firefox, use IE instead)

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Anonymous said...

Let's burn down coppers houses then. They can think i'm 'middle class' as much as they want - the fact that i'm a fucking genius seems to have slipped their ignorant minds.

WV: unlunatic - exactly, i'm not.

Arseholes said...

Anonymong 10:23 - Who has advocated this?

Dave H said...

Without wishing to be evil and cynical over potential bloodshed, the G20 summit is lined up to be a last-gasp party political broadcast on behalf of our Dear Leader, yet another re-re-re...re-launch. If it is instead remembered for mass civil unrest, the moment when the UK finally lost patience with these √úbercunts, I for one will not be unreservedly unhappy.

"One of the things about being an early riser is that you get to hear" bloody Farming Today, a programme consisting entirely of whingers complaining about unpaid subsidies.

At least I can now go outside and listen the dawn chorus instead.

Anonymous said...

Somewhat foolish if it's intended as a warning to protesters.

Videos of the police running away from demonstrators does not inspire confidence that the boys in blue will stand. Though they are quite good at beating up old people from the countryside they might find a younger crowd a little more difficult.

Gareth said...

I wonder whether Mr Hartshorn has thrown down his gauntlet with or without Big Jacky's permission.

Jacky is as much a Nobody Home Secretary as well as a 2nd Home Secretary.

So far it would seem the mandarins and the Police acted without her knowledge on the Damien Green affair. The state has been out of our democratic control for some time but they did used to try to hide it.

Why don't they like cameras? Because there will be agent provocateurs at any such protest.

Anonymous said...

Middle class protesters fuck off!!! An oxymoron if there ever was one, no it will be the working man* who'll sort this out for you as usual, just wait a few years then claim "I was there, we changed the world"

Thats the middle class way.

*Dolescum, chav, scrounger, layabout are the names you know this invisible group by.

Anonymous said...

Coppers suck New Labour's greasy cock 'mmm, I love your spunk Gordon, mmm Harriet, let me feel your quim on my face'.

Anonymous said...

Oh dear, oh dear. Agents provocateurs in evidence here already.

Old Holborn said...

A Middle Class riot will consist of simply not bothering to go to work for a week

General strikes ALWAYS achieve their aims. They have liberated continents and defeated empires.

When we withdraw our consent to be ruled by the arrogant elite, their power evaporates instantly. You don't need violence. Ask the East Germans.

Anonymous said...

Coppers just do their masters bidding without realising that New Labour are the scum.

Anonymous said...

It gets worse! "Well i'm not going to work, sod the company, sod the government".

"But dear think of your promotion, then there's the mortgage, and Henry down the road he's going into work today"

"Yes, of course what was I thinking!The MD hates all those lentil eating chavvy types,
bye-bye dear see you tonight".

Thats the British way, get the working class to win you concessions you know it makes sense.

Anonymous said...

The last time we had a General strike did'nt the middle classes drive the trams deliver the mail and run the power stations? The plebs got reduced wages or the dole as a result. The history books don't lie.

Prisoner212 said...

Penguin is right.

The plod will scream and runaway like little girls if protestors pretend to be mozies.

Mind you it will probably bring out the anti-terrorism plod; I can't believe nulab will let a protest against them go un-punished.

Anonymous said...

o/h is right.plod will just run away.wear middle eastern clothes and stage make up.....

brown,mandy,balls etc.....

how tough are they?
dont make me laugh....
they wouldnt last 10 minutes in my local!!!!!

Anonymous said...

I don't wanna take on the police - ostensibly they're good lads. If they wanna take on middle class lads with infinitly more brains than them, with greater understanding of civic responsibility than any policeman could ever comprehend - then game on.

Why is it so mental to comprehend full scale civil unrest in Blighty?

There won't be machetes or guns, theft or even discourtesey. I recommend that evryone gets insurance though. You can't restrict a people who are the most valiant creatures on earth without considering the error.

Guthrum said...

The history books don't lie.

Yes they do, all the time. History is written by the winners.

If new Labour win this one, everything we have all written here will disappear into the ether, and we will have the story of how Brown saved the world.

Funambulist said...

The danger IMO is that anti-govt protests will be hijacked by Swampy & the Protest Anything that Thinks or Moves morlocks. That's how the Mirror and other rags will spin it anyway, with pics of gurning white rastas with bones thru their noses.

If Ordinary Joes and Janes think the protests are anti-civilization and not anti-govt, they may well close ranks behind the govt no matter how much they despise Brown, Smith & the trough-piggers. Lesser of two evils, right?

Protests need to be very specific and issue targeted - not tear everything down and party like you're an extra in 'The Matrix - Pt 2'.

R Nosgrove said...

The government and its police stooges are right to be worried.

If things continue on their present course they will be confronted by many thousands of angry people who've never been on their radar, who've never even had a parking ticket but have reached breaking point and now feel they've nothing to lose.

This government must be dispatched to oblivion at all costs. At some point Supt Hartshorn and his colleagues will have to decide whose side they are really on.

Anonymous said...

Has anyone noticed how the police are saying they fear these protests, almost as if they were a crime?

Quoted from the Daily Mail:

"Superintendent David Hartshorn, who heads the Metropolitan Police's public order branch, said he feared there could be 'mass protest' at rising unemployment, failing financial institutions and the downturn in the economy.

The officer told The Guardian that 'known activists' were planning returns to the streets, and intelligence revealed that they may be able to call on more protesters than normal due to the unprecedented conditions.

He said: 'Those people would be good at motivating people, but they haven't had the "footsoldiers" to actually carry out (protests)."

1. Hang on, protests are part of this thing called a democracy...

2. 'known activists'?? Why would they have known activists, unless we were living in a police state? Oh wait...

Anonymous said...

Fuck off Brown and fuck off the upper echelons of the police too. Fuck off. Your time us coming cunts.

rented said...

I met Supt Hartshorn a few weeks ago at the London Calling Photographers group meeting called Know your rights: Facing the police crackdown on public photography. Interesting to see him quoted now, as following the meeting I couldn’t find anything about him on Google.

It was an interesting evening. As you can imagine it focused on the law which subsequently came into force last Monday, which makes it a criminal act to take a photo of a police officer that might be useful to a terrorist (regardless of who takes the photo or what its purpose is).

He seemed to be a reasonable, decent chap. He openly admitted to police abuse of anti-terror laws on the streets, and expressed regret at this. He also said that in his personal opinion much of the legislation passed over the past few years has been very badly put together and not at all productive, and that he did not support more repressive laws being passed all the time. However I came away from the meeting no more clued up on my rights than when I left, and an inherent distrust of the police made me wonder if his apparent openness and frankness was all an act to avoid pushing the meeting out of the composed atmosphere that prevailed and into heated/abusive debate.

Guthrum said...

Hartshorn is by all 'accounts' a non person in terms of information about him.

Strange that he feels able to give public statement about policing policy, whilst remaining a secret policeman.

microdave said...

"He seemed to be a reasonable, decent chap. He openly admitted to police abuse of anti-terror laws on the streets, and expressed regret at this. He also said that in his personal opinion much of the legislation passed over the past few years has been very badly put together and not at all productive, and that he did not support more repressive laws being passed all the time."

The problem with "reasonable, decent chaps/chapesses" is that they are only have limmited influence in any organisation. I saw exactly the same thing in a major national company I worked for. I spoke out if I felt some thing was wrong - even though I new there would be the inevitable whispering behind my back, and quite often the better lower and mid level managers would back me. But there is always a point where no further action is possible. A senior manager or someone on the company board didn't want to upset the apple cart (fearful of his pension, no doubt), and that was the end of it.

So whilst Gadget and PcBloggs try to put the voice of reason into these arguments, ultimately it won't make a blind bit of difference. Now we have police wearing cameras all the time there is absolutely no opportunity for them use common sense when dealing with a situation. Until we have frequent repeats of the "retreating blue line" and the rank & file police refuse to follow orders there is not much hope for the rest of us.

Anonymous said...

Funambulist said...
The danger IMO is that anti-govt protests will be hijacked by Swampy & the Protest Anything that Thinks or Moves morlocks.

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Funambulist is correct. This crowd are the bankers 'useful idiot' opposition who are even infecting this comment thread. Just a thought - when Hartshorn refers ti known activists could this be what he is hinting at?

Earthlet Nigel said...

OH You are quite right when you say the people of East Germany demonstrated peacefully, unforetunately the state machine wasn't so contrite about loosing power, and a good number of people were hurt and a number did die.
And just wait for the trumped-up charges to be trotted out.

Guthrum, I was a contract lecturer in modern history, now frozen out of the system for refusing to tow the party line on slavery and religion, also in trouble for telling the students to look outside the window at events preceding and subsequent.
At times too, it was disheartening to see some of those put into university by a system, just so they could congratulate themselves in a round of mutual back-slapping and masturbation.

Too often I would see Godwit, Halfwit and Fuckwit in the auditorium. Racking up debt, wasting my time, and finally dropping out. By the time this has happened they are no longer the responsibility of those that placed them there, who are undoubtedly still engaged in jacking themselves off into a Zanuliebore Nirvana.

North Northwester said...

So the crusties and the commies and the greens and the anarchists will march and riot [probably] and maybe the jihadists will pick the same day for some innocent God-bothering mayhem proving the Religion of Peace to be what anyone with a brain fears it is, and ...what?

Who gains?

Where will the next tranche of tax money and the next wads of 'Parliamentary' time go to?

To the police and to the security apparatus which can't keep us safe in our own neighbourhoods from Moslems who've decided they're not part of the UK - that's who.

And then the anarchists and the 'working classes' and the reds and the greens will go back to their 'universities' and to their dole, and their squats and the pub, and Daddy's big posh house, and all no worse for wear like as not from their little bit of excitement.

But what about the poor sods whose cars and homes and businesses and children who were trying to sleep were near the riot site..

Their fear will be put down to the Daily Mail tendency and their uptight lives, or be blamed for being 'rich.'

And nowhere - nowhere at all - will there be the slightest indication of anyone calling himself a Conservative standing up for the law-keepers and work-makers and wealth-creators and peaceable citizens who prefer their politics peaceful and legal and harmless.

I mean, it's not like we're supposed to be a civilization or anything, is it?

Guthrum said...

Earthlet

I live near Bristol, so we have the 'Slavery' Museum, the UK ended Slavery in the 1830's, but working in Africa I can assure you that the practice is still alive, and is still a black on black crime.

However in Bristol, you are not allowed to say things like that because it is a 'slave port', utter bollocks of course, but never mind the History pass the ideology.

History is always filtered through the current ideology,to the point where the myth created is the most important, not context and reality.

Guthrum said...

calling himself a Conservative standing up for the law-keepers

Whose Laws ? the 3000 plus since 1997 ? Stop obeying and start thinking !

We need less Laws, but more effective Laws

North Northwester said...

"However in Bristol, you are not allowed to say things like that because it is a 'slave port', utter bollocks of course, but never mind the History pass the ideology."

So we need to celebrate - shout about 'Amazing Grace' and 'Amistad' and how good they are and rememeber we are the heirs to the culture that finally, in its own lands and others', abolished slavery.

Of course, it also involves telling pretty much every Lefty [minus the honourable exceptions, of course] to please themselves when they run Britain down...
But that's half the fun.

North Northwester said...

"Whose Laws ? the 3000 plus since 1997 ? Stop obeying and start thinking !

We need less Laws, but more effective Laws"

Agreed - too many edicts and guidelines and EU directives and guillotine motions - we've got to get back to property rights, and everything's allowed that's not forbidden and the Rights of Englishmen.

And I don't obey most Labour laws - I've never heard of most of them - but they are still the law.

I'd take the UK law back to those of about 1945 if I could [minus rationing] but as I can't do so, and as I want to live in somewhere peaceful - or at least not lawless, then I'll uphold the law-keepers (those in uniform and out of it) because without laws and law-keeping the barbarians will triumph.

"calling himself a Conservative standing up for the law-keepers" -
that's what conservative ARE, in large part - the people who stand up for the law-keepers.

Got to say I'm looking forward to seeing Mr.Brown leaving Number Ten for the last time...but not jumping any cartweels when his powder blue clone takes up residence.

Funambulist said...

Guthrum, last Saturday I visited the Voodoo Exhibition at the Riflemaker gallery in Soho. At one point the amiable curator pointed to an old Air France map of Africa and made a little speech that began, "When the first slave ships arrived in Africa from Spain..." Afterwards I pointed out that Muslim slavers got there first, arriving by around the 8th Century, and have been plying their trade there ever since.
The curator said, "Yes, I know...but they already had their religion." I didn't really understand his response but he seemed to be saying that the bad Spaniards inflicted Catholicism on the Africans, hence voodoo. As if Myslims ever turned up an opportunity to impose their religion on anyone at swordpoint - eg the whole of North Africa, Nigeria, Uganda, Sudan, Niger etc etc. The vast majority of visitors will of course come away with the impression that only evil Europeans ever enslaved Africans despite vast evidence to the contrary. We suppressed the European/American trade pretty damn quick and at considerable cost. The Arabs carry on regardless even today with no criticism whatever from the Righteous. Hey, if you asked Kerry McCarthy who instigated the slave trade and carries on even today, what do you think her reply would be?

Old Holborn said...

"I'd take the UK law back to those of about 1945 if I could [minus rationing] but as I can't do so,...."

Who said you couldn't?

For fuck's sake, there are 60 million of us, there are 646 of them.

yokel said...

Guthrum wrote "When this Government finally falls he is now near the top of my personal list to be sacked."

My fear is that when this Government finally falls, it will be replaced by a Government organised by ACPO. And this copper is an ACPO grade. I don't think there will be any opportunity to sack him. That is why our secretive copper is speaking out. He knows his time is near.

Old Holborn said...

Yokel

I dare them

They know how many of us now own guns.

They wouldn't fucking dare

North Northwester said...

"Who said you couldn't?

For fuck's sake, there are 60 million of us, there are 646 of them."

Yes, OH, I know all that; but only one party to vote for.

I'd love to see UKIP win, or tie and ally with rebel true conservatives and do some good, but the media is rooting for the ruling party [choose your flavour; one ideology fits all] and most of our countrymen are concerned with the inhabitants of the Big Brother house and talent shows - or afraid of The Evil Corporations putting poison in their kids' water supply - or just managing to hang on and are none-too-worried about which colour rosette crosses the absolute majority line some Friday morning soon...

So, short of bloody revolution - which will be won by the Left or the Moslems or both - I think I'll carry on trying to persuade people to look at the world with freedom in their eyes...and meanwhile pucker up for the Cameron tax hikes which he will need to preserve comprehensive education and high welfare spending in perpetuity.

I mean, tell me if I'm wrong in any of that.

This is Dunkirk - not D-Day.

Zak the Mac said...

Just a few thoughts.

Yokel is wrong about Supt being an ACPO rank. Sure, Hartshorn could have just taken his tongue out of an ACPO arse just long enough to enunciate his words.

Yokel could well be right about ACPO 'organising' the (next) government though.

Prisoner212 - 'terrorist' is just someone The System doesn't like, so yes, I think you are right.

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I wouldn't advocate burning ordinary cops houses down unless they brutal with any protestors. In the meantime, practising on ACPO would be a terrific, some would say necessary, start. Cops tend to live close to one another - can't think why. A non-scientific look at Friends Reunited, Facebook etc suggest a lot of GMP live in Northwich, well away from the area they serve so valiantly.

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