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Sunday, 4 January 2009

The Police are listening

From Leg Iron

If someone sends you an Email with an attached virus designed to hack into your computer and send information to a remote computer, that's illegal.

If someone breaks into your home and installs a keystroke logger into your keyboard, that's illegal.

If someone parks outside your home and hacks in to your wireless network, that's illegal.

Unless it's the police doing it. Then it's all okay.

Nothing to worry about. It's regulated by RIPA so it'll never be abused. Okay, you can laugh now. When you've finished, strengthen your firewall, replace your wireless network with a wired one and get a second USB keyboard - which you take from its hiding place, plug in and use instead of the one that's permanently connected to your computer. But we're not a police state.

Oooooh, no.


The Penguin 4 January 2009 at 11:31  

And they are getting away with murder!

The Penguin

Ampers 4 January 2009 at 11:41  

Who voted Conservative in the mid seventies?

Who voted Labour in the mid nineties?

If you can hold your hand up to one of the above, I bet you can't hold your fucking head up as well!

You are all fucked. Why? Because you either vote for the party your parents voted for, and their parents before them - or, you vote for one of the two main parties so as not to let the party you don't like in.

Until people forget about doing either of these two things and look at some of the smaller parties you will continue to be fucked by the politicians.

Voting for a small party won't get them in at the next election, but if they get one or two MPs in, that will give them encouragement to clean up their act, and put the fear of God into the other major parties.

To slow for you? That's fine. Vote Labour or Tory or Liberal Democrat and get more of the same.

But stop fucking complaining.

The Hitman,  4 January 2009 at 11:51  

Well said, Ampers.........

Ampers 4 January 2009 at 12:20  

Thanks, Hitman. Take a look at


PS r u available for hire?

Bristol Dave 4 January 2009 at 12:48  

I'd like to wish the police the very best of luck in achieving any of this undetected on my network/PCs.

I've "hacked" wireless networks and if you use a long phrase with upper/lowercase letters, numbers, and punctuation as WPA2, it basically can't be done in any kind of reasonable time frame.

If you still use WEP encryption you deserve everything you get, frankly.

Anonymous,  4 January 2009 at 12:50  

Ampers: Voting for ANY party means you are voting for people who are loyal to a party above all else.

What people should be voting for is INDEPENDENTS who can use their conscience in every instance instead of obeying party whips or doctrine.

Old Holborn 4 January 2009 at 13:02  


Independents are the only way anything will change

Ampers 4 January 2009 at 13:06  

Yes and no re Independents.

Voting for an Independent can make a change to your particular constituency but alas, unless you get a parliament with a majority of Independents all willing to work together to form a government - highly unlikely as each one will have their own ideas - you will just get a new party.

I had given Independents a lot of consideration but I don't think it is the answer as, in the unlikely event they form a government, they will have formed a party as well.

Then the corruption will set in.

One thing we learned in Africa is to live with corruption and vote in the party less corrupt.

Ron Broxted 4 January 2009 at 13:12  

You start with an excellent blog on the implementation of a police state then divert to Independents.Quote of the year "It is easier to establish a police state than to dismantle one".

RavingMad,  4 January 2009 at 13:20  

In Gloucester the police, having got an extra £4M from govt (stasi) aim to give teenagers mini-cameras which they can wear in lapels and take into stationery shops, offlicences etc and spy on retailers selling alcohol - the police think it's a great idea - increase their stats you know.

Who asked them to be doing this?
Who stands to gain?

Ampers 4 January 2009 at 13:23  

They are linked, Ron.

We need to change the habits of the Police but will never do so until we change the system.


Chalcedon 4 January 2009 at 13:41  

I would never use a wi fi connection for exactly that reason. It can be hacked into so easily. I have a couple of firewalls too, plus a very good anti virus system. Also flat screens emit far less electromagnetic radiation than a CRT monitor. Don't these bastards need a court order to do this surveillance or does the RIPA thing allow for it regardless? Must be the latter as council bastards were spying on parents to see if they gave a false address re the school catchement area.

Shirking From Home 4 January 2009 at 14:24  

You all seem to forget the option of tracking whatever the fuck you do further up-stream. Sure there are protections in law against this sort of thing. Just as there are protections in RIPA, yeah?, OK then.

Do what you want at home but unless all web traffic to and from your phone line is encrypted using the best available it's just a case of pissing in to the wind.

Anonymous,  4 January 2009 at 14:30  

I can state factually that internet traffic is monitored at all times. Key words and sites trigger further monitoring from the security services.

Anonymous,  4 January 2009 at 14:31  

Time to delete a few old ID's and create new ones through my proxy server from Anonymizer.

I will upgrade my WiFi security level this week but it isn't a particular vulnerability in my case.

Have today reviewed some more firewall options and tested any vulnerabilities at Gibson Research (Google it).

At present I have a Netgear WiFi router modem with Network Address Translation which sort of acts as a firewall with an additional in-built in firewall that uses stateful packet inspection to defend against hacker attacks and finally Zonealarm security suite, Internet zone set on high on all computers in the house.

I'm very careful about any emails I open, the ISP filters a lot of junk and Zonealarm usually gets the rest.

I run ant-virus and anti-spyware regularly, I am clean as far as I know, invisible on the net and no reverse DNS so you won't see me in the live traffic feed.

I'm thinking about buying an industrial strength hardware firewall as well, you can't be too careful.

Stray Taoist 4 January 2009 at 17:05  

Or install linux, learn how to use PGP, encrypted sessions, browsing-by-proxy and a host of other bits and bobs.

Lock down your wireless properly. You could go as far as to keep an OS on a memory stick, and boot from that every time.

Change your passphrases. Use a new one (and don't learn it) every time. Use something like KeyPassX to generate passwords, as you can't learn them. ssh everywhere.

Seriously, the best first step you can make is to not use windows. If you don't play games on the PC, there is no need to have windows. At all.

Anonymous,  4 January 2009 at 17:25  

Having had some dealings with RIPA professionally all I will say is that the police are more likely to remain within the Act. It is the councils and quangoes which abuse the law and most likely act illegally. These are the people you should be worried about.

As for security measures. Well sensible precautions such as firewalls and WPA2 for wireless are all well and good, but if the government want to read your traffic they can. Whether or not it is worth the effort is debatable.

Anonymous,  4 January 2009 at 17:40  

Taoist makes a very good point. Obfuscate yourself by just one degree by ditching Windows, and you will be immune to 99% of what's circulating. If you wish to be subversive, notch up more safeguards.

If you must run Windows, use it as a toy machine and create a streamlined disc so that you can ditch everything when things go TU.

Biggest thing about Linux is to find a distro which works with your hardware. Google is your fiend.

Ampers is right. I am pretty much gerrymandered where I am (W4) and the calibre of Opposition candidates reflects this. I therefore vote BNP, even though they are headless chickens on most things.

FrankFisher 4 January 2009 at 17:42  

wireless with adequate security is fine - and setting up access control(ie, only allowng specific MAC addresses to connect) beefs it up considerably. Just don't open attachments if you don't know what they are. Also, they can always grab your comms info at the exchange.

If you have anything critical to say - say it face to face. True now as it ever was.

Gordon Brown,  4 January 2009 at 20:11  

Well, I'm sure if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.

Yup, that should sort that one out.


Shug Niggurath 4 January 2009 at 20:43  

That it's legal for them to do this is the outrage.

A lot of the above is tin-hat territory.

Anonymous,  4 January 2009 at 21:09  

To late now, but every child should have been made to study and fully understand "1984" and "Animal Farm".

Anonymous,  5 January 2009 at 00:24  

Duh! Why spend ages trying to break a wireless outside someone's house when a court order lets the police see everything you've typed on an IP address?

This is what the music industry did, and its the 'proper' course of action. The most useful thing about breaking wireless is that it allows an individual to make comments anon ...!

it's either banned or compulsory 5 January 2009 at 04:01  

Yup, all the home security in the world cannot save you from your ISP grassing you up.

Death To Brown,  5 January 2009 at 10:40  

I will start e-mailing mis-information to/from my other e-mail accounts to screw these fuckers up... e-mails containing key words like bomb, Gordon Brown etc...
If I was a terrorist I would communicate by post and use pay-as-you-go mobile phones paid for by cash of course... that would make the surveillance a bit harde wouldn't it... but so simple eh !

Old Holborn 5 January 2009 at 10:54  

This is why they are demanding that all PAYG mobiles are registered.

Ron Broxted 5 January 2009 at 10:56  

Ampers,Yes you are correct about Independents.As for altering police behaviour we were rather good at this in Brixton in 81.The police cannot be reasoned with therefore ought to be terminated with extreme prejudice.

Anonymous,  5 January 2009 at 11:44  

You are aware that the clever terrorists of the 9/11 type were clever enough to send jpegs of their messages by email?
Wasn't caught by the keyword trips because it was a picture - and didn't get caught by the IP issue because they sent them from Internet Cafes

Looks like the whole thing is yet another red herring - just like the paedophile who was invented in 1996 as a reason for monitoring the new fangled internet thingy!

Stray Taoist 5 January 2009 at 11:47  

Emailing JPGs is quite a nifty idea, considering it is a lossy compression format, and you can embed encrypted data in the bit-gaps...

Polaris 5 January 2009 at 12:43  

I worked on similar projects 20 + years ago, using low noise floor spectrum analysers with directional antenna - old news and not practical in the noisy EMC/RFI environments we live in now, so don't worry too much. You are more likely to be compromised by man-in-the middle arrangements with your ISP (interception of all Internet traffic), or the two or three "law enforcement only " software packages that hide beautifully in your system.

Steganography (hiding data in other files), is pretty much well established as a good way of hising data, but the analysts who work for the man routinely check for this, and FTK and Encase will spot it.

The answer: Encrypt; encrypt everything you can, your system disks, create hidden encrypted volumes within encrypted operating system drives and learn to remember very long keys. And do not under any circumstances use wireless connections or the Internet for anything that you would not wish others to read...

polaris 5 January 2009 at 12:47  

Sorry about the typos in previous post - and one last thing do not use manufacturer's encryption - I can recommend PGP or Truecrypt...

Stray Taoist 5 January 2009 at 13:44  

PGP, indeed. But I disagree about learning long keys. Here is what I do: Take the book from *some location which can cycle* your bookshelf. Use *an incremental page number* each time (time defined as, say, once a month) and use the nth paragraph's nth sentence as your passphrase. Eventually, you will get to the stage where you don't *remember* it, so when the peelers ask for it, you can say you don't know it. I think (can't find reference now...) that this is plausible in front of a judge if do you for not giving it over. As long as it is your method.

You can never be too paranoid about security, as there is always someone smarter out there to break whatever you have.

Once-use pads, the way of the past, and future...

polaris 5 January 2009 at 13:57  

Stray Taoist, there are lots of ways of creating and remembering long keys, but in your head is the best.

OTP (one time pad) was first used in the Napoleanic Wars and is uncrackable, but impracticable in a software implementation - and of course is compromised by the capture of the pad itself (a copy of which is held by both sender and recipient). Combinational algorithms such as Serpent/Twofish/AES are for all intents and purposes uncrackable, unless your key is compromised.

But the defence of not knowing your key (but not admitting to knowing how to find it), or not admitting to remembering it are the same thing in law - and at most circumstantial evidence that you are forensically aware and in conjunction with other evidence would may indicate you had something to hide - but not conclusive, and without other evidence insufficient to secure prosecution. Unless of course they change the law, Jacqui Smith would never do that would she?

Stray Taoist 5 January 2009 at 14:09  

(To Jackboot Jacqui, and overall to your comments):)

Of course, *my* head is not the best for that. Although, to be fair, my low-level passphrase is in my head. And quite long.

But all software is broken by definition. I know, I write a lot of broken code.

Is the MooT project still on the go? Last I was coding for it, there was infighting and factions. Though quite a nice idea. No drives on your machine, boot OS from (was then) CD.

Just make sure your interesting stuff is hosted (and encrypted) overseas, don't store ssh keys yadayada. *You* know the score, clever lass and all.

I like OTP, as they are old school. Technology is never the weak point in the chain (if done right), it is *people*.

polaris 5 January 2009 at 15:42  

I use the Bart PE project for a Windows environment on a CD, and Knoppix for Linux on a CD - incidentally so do Law Enforcement in the UK (variations such as Penguin Sleuth Kit). These are great for not leaving a fingerprint on a PC system, I was involved in a case many years ago where the perpetrator could not be prosecuted because he booted a Public Library PC system from a boot CD...

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