Friday, 5 December 2008

Upstairs, Downstairs


It’s time to call a halt to a disastrous catalogue of events that has been trundling along now for 40 years.

With yesterdays conviction of what I can only describe as the most disgusting Huntley & Palmers box of assorted creams in the UK, Karen Matthews, it has marked a watershed for me.

We have to take back decency.

The last 40 years has seen a small group of bearded intellectuals ruin a society, totally. Their social experiment is now causing the deaths of innocent citizens by the thousands. They have demanded that an ever increasing State take all responsibility away from the citizen. In return they have amassed power, wealth and unbelievable influence. You know who they are. I know who they are. They are the Polly’s, the Greers, the Longfords. Leg Iron calls them the Righteous.

And now it is time to stop. It is time to fight back.

There are millions of underclass swarming like maggots from every welfare subsidised hovel that the Righteous built for them. Our schools are full of their offspring, spitting at teachers, threatening adults, because the Righteous told them they could. The Righteous told them they could do as they fucking well pleased as long as the Righteous could maintain power over them.

The last few decades have seen the Righteous ensure that no one can drink as they please, smoke as they please, speak as they please or act as they please without THEIR consent. The Righteous are not our masters, they are our servants. They forget this long long ago and now Hudson and Mrs Bridges with no manners sit at the top table, belching and demanding that the master of the house shine THEIR shoes below stairs, pay all the bills, take all the responsibility and doff his cap to them whilst serving them fois gras and quails eggs on a bed of rocket.

Karen Matthews demanded that her children be fed, clothed, housed, educated and raised by me. She was too busy. Millions upon millions of feral filth out there are doing exactly the same. Their screams of “it’s my fucking rights, innit” is deafening me.

So how are we going to fight back and remind these cunts of their proper place?

Well, Old Holborn is going to make their fucking lives a misery. The Police are not going to do anything. If crime falls, so will their funding. Likewise Social Services. So we, the citizens, the true masters of our State are going to have to do it ourselves.

How do we make their lives a misery? Oh, I have millions of ideas. None of them illegal but every single one designed to make the choice of being a bloated, idle, arrogant, scheming, violent, drunken, ignorant, welfare dependent, anti social cunt just a little less attractive. Let’s start reminding these fuckers that they live below stairs, without the privileges you and I have earned. Let’s put them back in their fucking place. Because if we don’t, they’ll continue doing it to us and our children. When we’ve put them back in their box, we can go and round up the complete fucktards who let them out in the first place.




Now, let’s hear some more in the comments section.

145 comments:

Anonymous said...

It's the Goverment, stupid!

Old Holborn said...

Christmas Spirit

deeply depressed said...

Anyone got any spare Howitzers?

The Penguin said...

Right as usual, Old H. The Matthews creature is a complete disgrace, but how on earth did she manage to get pregnant so often - let's face it, she's a right ugly minger.

Until we dismantle the Welfare State we will continue to have scum like this abusing the system and breeding yet more scum to supply endless benefits. Witness the incest case in Sheffield, and many others.

The Penguin

Rab C. Nesbitt said...

If I read or hear any of the righteous say that there 'parasites' are victims I'm gonna fucking scream. They're not victims, we are, for paying for the cunts.

Anonymous said...

They are victims, the children and grandchildren of the very same men who fought and died for this country.

Blame the goverment for destroying society.

Damo Mackerel said...

OH: What a brillant post . My own estate is being overrun by these nasty little scumbags and you can't say anything or the righteous will tear you asunder.

The Penguin: 'but how on earth did she manage to get pregnant so often - let's face it, she's a right ugly minger'. Obviously her suitors beleived in: 'you don't look at the mantle piece when you're poking the fire'. That's the only explanation I can think of.

Cato said...

The Penguin said...

Right as usual, Old H. The Matthews creature is a complete disgrace, but how on earth did she manage to get pregnant so often - let's face it, she's a right ugly minger.

Doggy fashion is the only explanation I can think of....plus a couple of strong paper bags.

TheFatBigot said...

"whilst serving them fois gras and quails eggs on a bed of rocket" ... enrobed in a creamy mushroom sauce, I presume.

Bob's Head Revisited said...

A stone bonkers spot-on classic of a post. Great stuff.

mikey said...

Sorry OH but using the example of Hudson and Mrs Bridges so misses the mark. Fictional characters such as they were portrayed conveyed the best of the British working class in that period, instinctively auto-didact, well read, absolutely nothing to do with the scum you currently describe Must try harder 2 /10

mad manc cuint said...

She got pregnant 'cos there are some fuckin' desperate rapists in Dewsbury!
That can be the only explanation. Any normal bloke would not have fucked that with the rough end of a pineapple tied on the end of a 10ft barge pole.

Fuckin' Repulsive!

Ampers said...

I for one do not believe in hanging, which is what this may arouse in people.

Hanging is inhumane.

Far better to put them in a nice warm comfortable cell and spread the flue virus around the cells in the air-conditioning.

When one of them goes down with the flu, take them to the sick bay, give them a jab to cure it, but instead, put a humane killer portion in the hypodermic. The poor dears will think they are going to get better and drift off to sleep.

And die.

That, Sir, is a humane way to treat them all.

woman on a raft said...

I'm not sayin' she's ugly but the rapist took the Rohypnol.

Get me coat

haddock said...

There is probably a Libertarian way of sorting the problem, theoretically of course,.... perhaps explain the fairness of society with few bounds.... but imposing the fucking laws we have already got would be a surer start.
Don't concentrate on the estates,,, the problem lies with Police, Magistrates, judges, Probation Services and social services

haddock said...

Ampers,
is that your 'Final Solution" not going to give them a year or two of the yellow patch stoning slapping and spitting business then..... what a Hoon, not all cunts are chavs, or all chavs cunts.

Ampers said...

Haddock

I just thought I was being kind and himane :-)

Mike Rouse said...

Thinking aloud...

I come from quite a poor background, but as an adult I have never scrounged from the state. I claimed JSA once when I was unemployed for about 4 months because I was totally broke and needed the help. I got a job after 4 months and haven't looked back and certainly haven't allowed myself to be out of work again. I'd do anything to avoid being in that situation again - I'd clean floors, wipe arses, whatever it takes.

And that to me is the fundamental difference here. The willingness to work.

I have a friend of a friend who got a job after being unemployed for nearly 3 years. He lost it a few weeks later because he got pissed one night with his mates and decided that he didn't want to work for £6 per hour. He asked me if I'd work for £6 an hour and I responded "If I had to"

They just don't get it. Working is not something you can pick and choose based on your whims. You can't walk out of a job just because it doesn't suit you. It's a hard slog and you have to make sacrifices. I hate my job at the moment, but I do it because I have to. So many people are in the same boat as me. We get on with it and quietly plot our next career move, hoping that next time it will be better.

I don't have the answers - for that I elect my politicians. Yet, instead of coming up with solutions I'm happy with, they've made it ten times worse.

Old Holborn said...

http://www.lulu.com/content/4956212

Old Holborn said...

People you pay to produce 7 children by 5 fathers are not going to stop until you stop paying them to produce 7 children by 5 fathers

WHY is that so hard for a mere 646 people to understand?

Shalewhale said...

Werd brother, werd...

Thud said...

I just posted on this matter myself..if with less anger and more sorrow.I am angry but just where do I direct it?....the feelings engendered by unfulfilled anger blight my life just as much as the twats responsible in the first place...roll on the day when perhaps we can really hit out.
wv..butcyter...worrying?

Anonymous said...

Giving chav women a financial incentive to breed like rabbits makes no sense.

Firstly, take a leaf out of the Americans' book. In many states, if you need state welfare to support your child, you must have a contraceptive implant to make sure you can't have any more kids that you can't support while you're receiving welfare.

Secondly, we need some sort of workfare scheme. The 5.2 million currently in receipt of benefits because they're out of work wont drag themselves away from the Jeremy Kyle show.

Thirdly, stop putting new mothers straight to the top of the housing list. Better to keep them all together in a large, communal house where they could work from home. We could call these places 'Houses of Work' or something similar.

David G said...

Spot on. No work, no dole. Each child you produce, 50% less benefit than the last.

OH its prefectly easy for the 646 to understand - they also understand that if they keep throwing my money at these feckless no-marks, then they will keep voting for them.

wv: submt

LWTU said...

My blog of feral insanity. That's what years of this nonsense has produced, and that Barnados guy can go stick it up his arse.

haddock said...

"The 5.2 million currently in receipt of benefits because they're out of work wont drag themselves away from the Jeremy Kyle show."..... and these jobs come from where exactly ?
it was not the chav who ran this fucking country into the ground

"I just thought I was being kind and himane".... and there was me thinking you were just an unfeeling stupid cunt.

Damo Mackerel said...

I'm a Chav myself and I don't bum or beg off anybody. It's not only chav's that are having bastards to get handouts but plenty of middle classes are doing the same thing.

DavidNcl said...

There are two key issues here:

1. How will you progress the shutdown the welfare state when the BBC, the Guardian and the NSPCC(*) will stage a lamentation filled corpse parade with every dead child that turns up (whatever the cause).

2. There are no jobs for the proles / epsilons to do. Thanks in part to the state stifling capitalism and free markets to a staggering degree. Stifling was such a mild word... I mean fucking it, fucking it to bits.

(* note that the NSPCC spent 1/4 of your earth pounds over the last decade on a propaganda campaign, using images of suffering children to advance state control - more on my (very new, boring) blog: http://davidncl.wordpress.com/2008/12/04/think-of-the-children/).

Anger, however justified, is not enough.

mikey said...

My missus use to work for the NSPCC you would not believe the waste and nonsense bollocks they spend their money on.The half penny I might be prepared to give them would only be spunked on some spurious grievance procedure bought about by some politically correct twunt. The NSPCC are fucked.

Cato said...

Damo Mackerel said...

I'm a Chav myself and I don't bum or beg off anybody. It's not only chav's that are having bastards to get handouts but plenty of middle classes are doing the same thing.

Bollocks, you can't be a chav...you can read and write!

Anita said...

Some radio programme asserted that this woman may have exceeded 200 sexual partners. I was only half-listening.

Anonymous said...

"Some radio programme asserted that this woman may have exceeded 200 sexual partners. I was only half-listening."

Easy way to find out who they were - they'll be the 200 men with green, shriveled penises.

Gareth said...

You miss one point of the generous welfare state - to subsidise the retail economy. Money goes from our pockets to Government, then from Government to dole-ites and from dole-ites to Mr. Shopkeeper/Mr. Sky/Mr. Vatman.

It is partly a jolly big wheeze to make the economy look more successful than it really is. They can't save money or their benefits shrink so it's spend, spend, spend. Yet the triple accounting is cocking things up.(It's counted once when I earn it, again when Government spends it and again when dole scum spend it.)

The thing I don't get is this: Government simply hands these shit large wads of our money and pays their rent for them as well. A more sensible system would be like ration books or vouchers, strictly not redeemable for verboten items. Get these fuckers off booze and fags, and same for their parents! Less alcohol fuelled criminality. Less of a drain on the health service that they don't pay for as the fags are hookey.

A boxful of meat and vegetables a week and milk delivered to their door would be another way of doing it. But oh no! That would be too demeaning. It would surely be far cheaper though, and far better for their health. Could be run by private companies too.

Incidentally, both me and my brother have noticed the underclass seems to be getting smaller. Rat faced boys and girl growing up on convenience foods. It's not good for their health. Some are lanky yes, but there are quite a few short, borderline malnourished scum out there. Ideal for fitting through small windows for pilfering mind you.

Anonymous said...

"Incidentally, both me and my brother have noticed the underclass seems to be getting smaller. Rat faced boys and girl growing up on convenience foods. It's not good for their health. Some are lanky yes, but there are quite a few short, borderline malnourished scum out there."

Noticed that for years. They all have that deathly, pasty shade of white paint about them. people often say to me that my two year old is "big for his age".

no he isn't.

theyre measuring him against all the other babies they see daily, which for the most part are underfed doormice given sludge on toast by the unhealthy parents that spawned them.

Dr. Scott said...

OH this is beautiful. I've often had wild daydreams about vigilante patrols roaming the streets picking off any tracksuited cunt with a can of Special Brew in their sweaty mitts, or basically anyone who thinks it's a laugh to commit mindless vandalism, i.e. smashing bus shelters up, grafitti, etc, no matter how old or young they are.
Has that day become closer? I think it's getting fucking closer by the second.

Christian-Jedi-Alliance said...

Execute the fucking lot of em with light sabers, then give em a descent Christian cremation...its the only way you will save them.

Anonymous said...

"A more sensible system would be like ration books or vouchers, strictly not redeemable for verboten items. Get these fuckers off booze and fags, and same for their parents! Less alcohol fuelled criminality. Less of a drain on the health service that they don't pay for as the fags are hookey."

Don't the Americans have a food stamp system where the poor are only able to buy food and not Plasma TV's and the like.
But then I imagine such a system would infringe their basic human rights.

mad manc cunt said...

We should send them over to Zimbabwe and let them eat the cunts!

Evil Clanger said...

Look everyone, the genie is out of the fucking bottle: 1 in 4 of the working population is working for the state and requires us to pay for their wages and pensions for ever and there are 5 million people out of work/on the sick who fucking love it. And guess what, they have the vote. So we have three choices: leave; stay and let these people take the piss out of us; or resort to non-democratic means.

Zimbabwian Peasant said...

We're suffering enough without needing your detritus, thanks.

Harriet Harman though...

haddock said...

before you all trot off to Kristallnacht, (led no doubt by Ampers who I'm sure would have served in the Royal 43rd Accountancy Corps, Docket Filing Division ) could you just note before putting them all to the sword or ZyklonB that there are some fucking great kids on some of those estates ( I've taught some of them in the past )
Kids that despite everything about them have hauled themselves out of the shit they did not ask to be in.

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DiscoveredJoys said...

Look, we've been paying Dane Geld for 40 years so we can't turn it off all in one go - unless you are prepared for 10 years of anarchic crime and riot.

However, it should be possible to start dismantling the over-generous provision of social benefits now, and gradually build up to a sensible 'benefits are not a way of life' society.

You could, for instance, start off by saying that in 12 months time no new child after the first two will increase the payment of child benefits or other family size related benefits.

And then bring in a rule that no social housing will have more than three bedrooms.

And then later bring in a rule that child benefits get stopped at 17, then 16 etc., unless the child has an impeccable attendance at secondary or tertiary education.

And then stop any expectation of an increase in benefits (other than disabled or old age) due to inflation.

And then any 'chaotic' family that refuses to work and needs rehousing will only be housed in the least attractive housing.

There, that's some of the sticks - but we need carrots as well, like clever kids getting scholarships to good schools. Like streaming kids into academic or vocational secondary schools. Like finding everyone a job that wants one - even it is teams of litter pickers or canal bank tidiers, or house painters, all supervised by other previously unemployed people. Celebrate their contribution to making our country a cleaner, tidier, more pleasant place for us all to live.

Give people reasons to contribute, don't make it easy to slack off at others expense. Don't be afraid of setting out minimum acceptable standards of behaviour.

electro-kevin said...
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Anonymous said...

It's easy enough to sort out the decent ones from the ones that need killing.

Is the subject committing a crime / being aggressive / stabbing someone in the head / shitting on my car bonnet? If N, then carry on. If Y, then torch the fucker.

I've no problem with someone being on benefits as long as they leave me and mine the fuck alone. Unfortunately more and more people in that situation seem to be incapable of this.

The Penguin said...

Yeah, I did suggest on my newish blog back in mid November that Karen Matthews prove the Beer Googles theory, but I'd have to been (when I was young and led astray by the old one eyed trouser snake!) so pissed I probably could have achieved an erection. Even with multiple paper bags. They must have fucking strong stomachs in Dewsbury. Just imagine - no best we don't go there!!

But OH is right, we have to stop paying these cunts to breed. Then we can wait to be outbred by the subcontinentals, or maybe if we dismantle the Welfare State they'll fuck off back to their own shitholes.

The Penguin

The Penguin said...

couldn't!!!!!!!! Arrrrrgh, the very thought has me retching!!!!!!!!

The Penguin

electro-kevin said...

Leave.

That's the only answer.

LWTU said...

"I work a 45 hour week often rising at 2.30am - my wife works another 25 hours and we are utterly UTTERLY sick of the fact that our benefit scrounging neigbours and relatives enjoy a lifestyle which is indiscernable from our own ... apart from the fact that WE are the ones enslaved by work and our foolish ethic of self-sufficiency."

I know that feeling. The missus and I don't want to put our two year old into nursery yet as I don't agree with putting them in at that age, BUT we can't afford (nor do we trust!) babysitters.

So. What do I do?

I watch the baby from six AM mondays and tuesdays while the missus goes out to work, then when she returns at five, she has to avoid simply sitting down and relaxing - instead, she has to race to make the tea while I then START WORK from about half five till something like one in the morning, both days.

IF the government dropped tax just a little bit, we could abandon our whole stupid insistence on operating as a solid family unit at any cost, and she could give up work and I could pay for everything. I'd be quite happy with that.

But no, instead I now find some of my tax money is going to be used to give people on benefits better rewards for saving money, while I struggle to save ANYTHING.

My word verif should be FUCKERS, but alas I doubt it will be.

David said...

I'm left wondering whether it's too late. Too many things are wrong.

Perhaps the Indian way - a transistor radio in exchange for a vasectomy might reduce the numbers. We might have to bump the bribe up to a Nokia N97, a wii or a months supply of wifebeater so the offer appeals to the right demographic...

mad manc cunt said...

Haddock..
'Kids that despite everything about them have hauled themselves out of the shit they did not ask to be in.'

Yes that is true, i'm a good example. Some still think me a foul mouthed chav cunt but for the life of me I can't think why! But I agree with anon @ 17:48; its easy to know the good from the bad. And the bad should be fuckin' strung up by the bollocks. Or in the case of that Matthews vermin, her piss flaps!

Anonymous said...

Can you not see what you are doing here?
Change the word Chav for Jew and what do you have?

The target should be the government - not the result of the government!

Anonymous said...

"Change the word Chav for Jew and what do you have?"

Unless that Jew is throwing bricks through windows, stabbing familymen in the neck because they looked at them funny and terrorising old women, then unless I'm mistaken you have a really shitty example.

Dick the Prick said...

It ain't rocket science to incentivize the benefit system. Food stamps are demeaning and sure do have their problems. But so is the fact that if you've been unemployed for 5 years you're more likely to die than get a job.

As woman on a raft mentioned on a previous thread - Sir Norman Bettinson had it right - ghettos have already been established because these estates are no go.

OH popped a story from Stuart a while back on life in a sink estate. At no point do the righteous ever live there, visit - except in pairs or incompetently (as baby P) and throw massive amounts of money at it to keep people in poverty.

Haddock - perhaps Ampers may have been egregious but I used to do stuff in Dewsbury Moor - £7 million extra quid spent over 5 years as part of the Pathfinder scheme (lowest 5% shitholes in the country) and what's changed? There's about 4,000 residents.

The old maxim - you have to be cruel to be kind and give people their dignity back. I can not tell you the blight that exists there but I dare say you're aware in your own area. 4 kids died sniffing lighter fuel in one year alone, smack rife, domestic violence par for the course, race riots, murders, animal cruelty, sex pestery - what org can clean that shit up without strategic primary legislation?

It's better for them - it really is. Glasgow East lower life expectancy than Gaza!

Wyrdtimes said...

Don't whether you saw this one:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7746174.stm

Three kids never done a days work.

haddock said...

there is plenty of legislation, fucking reams of it.... and more new stuff every week but until the laws are enforced and judges/magistrates told to get their act together and stop their handwringing, things will just slide as it is easier to do fuck all except talk.
Name the little sods, the pooh hit the fan when the little fuckers were granted a cloak of anonymity by the do-gooders.
On the lowest level we can confront each and every little cunt that tries it on; I quite expect to get set upon one day as I refuse to make way for the cunts, if they expect me to get out of the way when they are walking in a group then they get barged into. Thirty years ago they would have got a backhander for not showing respect to an elder... then another for being lippy if they complained.

The good kids run with the pack too, they have to, but they keep as low a profile in the pack as they can.

Dick the Prick said...

PS - work can be fun - work should be fun. I did community service (100% guilty - thought had bollok cancer, lost plot) every Saturday for 1 year.

But we had a bloody great time and we were being punished so some of it was definately to embarrass us - fair enough. But all of it was painting schools, tidying up scout huts, church grounds, community centres - it was ace and I made some good chums out of it. I missed it when it went and joined the RSPB to clean up any of their shit.

There was a sex pest from prison - some early release shit who told everyone he was innocent - err.. I didn't ask - who accidently got nudged into Holmfirth river in January - ooopppss!

Dave said...

The tosser who likened Chavs to Jews has part of the answer.Trouble is, we're all in the ghetto.
Once the doctors have completed their research into ageing and curing disease, the chavs will be redundant and the final solution will begin.
Trouble is- we're in the same ghetto as them.
This is the only way I can explain the actions of the government esp Blair and Mandy as they suck up to whoever really runs the world in the vain hope that they will get a ticket on the last plane out of Saigon.
The rest of us are fucked.
wordver= pokerse (I kid you not)

Dick the Prick said...

Said well Dave - chav don't recognize creed - fucking righteous cunt. I shit them.

No offence Haddock - your intentions are admirable but you obviously support a sectional interest - kids. I don't. Me & my single mum fostered kids since I was 8 and the one salient fact was - their parents were fucking scum.

They weren't born that way but I don't do human interest - fuck 'em - clock's ticking.

WV: reachin - yeah? for what?

BrianSJ said...

http://tinyurl.com/5ajmg3
CP in OH's favourite borough of Haringey.

Cato said...

I've come to the conclusion that the gummint don't care. They chuck money about at any cunt who asks for it with no investigation into the whys and the wherefores.

I own my own house, I'm not on benefit so I get no fucking help at all....with anything.

Perhaps it's me that's the cunt!!

Shirking From Home said...

The more I see of this CP shite the more it appears like 'Hitler Youth' for grown-ups.

Mitch said...

Come up with a good plan and I'm your man,I have worked since I left school and total time off work excluding holidays is about 4 months including 3 weeks with fuckin chicken pox at 40 for fucks sake.Never,not once claimed anything cept ssp.
How about a chav hunting season?

Dick the Prick said...

Jeez Mitch - fucking chickens can't have turned much trade? At least Beast made specialist videos.

The Refuser said...

Haddock you are a good chap and we see things the same way, but to be honest I think the UK is now past the tipping point. The oxygen thieves outnumber decent folk now, and it can really only end one way in anarchy. I would like to think that DiscoveredJoys approach might work but first we need to horsewhip the Toynbees naked through the streets. Then we can sort out the riff raff. Food stamps would be a bloody good start.

Dick Puddlecote said...

Mike Rouse @ 16:08: Excellent post, especially this,

And that to me is the fundamental difference here. The willingness to work.

It's only going to get worse too, just think of the amount of kids who are growing up being shown by scrounging parents that you don't need to work to get a modest standard of living. It just requires a forfeiture of aspiration for better things.

Of course, if you're conditioned to be able to forfeit comforts for periods of time, prison isn't much of a scary or deterrent prospect either, is it? Perhaps part of the reason why lack of willingness to work, and criminality, tend to correlate.

Wyrdtimes @ 18:51: If that article is the one I think it is, I blogged it on Wednesday on the same point Mike Rouse was making, Degrees of Unemployed. Some are unemployed not for want of trying, others really don't make the effort.

Haddock (not shooting you btw, you're a daily read for me), I agree with you that the jobs don't materialise out of thin air, but those who have never worked at all lose the right to claim that defence IMO. In Wyrdtimes' link the woman hasn't done a day in 28 years. Boom, bust, whatever. Full of excuses but she seriously has no leg to stand on. The BBC try to paint a picture of her as a frigging victim!

Anonymous said...

I doubt you will like what I have to say,fair enough,I look at it this way,the banks screw us for money so management can have second homes,business screw us out of as much money as they can get,gas,electricity etc,woolies say they have 50% off yes on glass baubles the rest of the prices are higher than they were yesterday,Jan sales if they have any will do the same,sales people make money anyway they can to pass on to shareholders and management,every business is trying to find a way to make as much money as they can and I include big charities and business who pretend to be charities,they all want to use the least input to do it,the chav's and the detritus of this country have found the easist way to make money,how do you get back to decency where people were concerned for each other and business
is not maximum £ for minimum work Iv'e no idea,kick all American ideas into,touch as far as I am concerned Brown and his acolytes have to go before we can do anything and that only in hope.

wv syereat see you right Browns promise

JPT said...

Please forgive me for quoting myself BUT I feel I must!

'So an independent review has been ordered into the Shannon Mathews case.

"I think it is important that there is an independent review of the history and records of all agencies' dealings with the family. '' said Kirklees Council leader Robert Light.

Children's Secretary (didn't know we had one) Ed Balls has even waded in with "I don't think that court fees, or anything else should ever stand in the way of local authorities doing the right thing to make sure children are safe."

I think, as usual that the powers that be are barking up the wrong tree.

All they can see fit to do is to try and introduce more procedural bullshit into the bullshit organisations that they have created.

How can social services etc stop this sort of thing happening again they ask?

Well I think that they should look at the whole case from the angle of this: how can the society that they (successive left wing governments that is) have created, have itself created creatures like Karen Mathews and her cohorts?

THEY have created this society and this society has created these people.

Soul searching time for the liberal elite?

It should be, but I doubt it will be.'

Apologies again...

Old Holborn said...

"Children's Secretary (didn't know we had one) Ed Balls has even waded in with "I don't think that court fees, or anything else should ever stand in the way of local authorities doing the right thing to make sure children are safe."

Ed Balls is the man who put the price up of taking a child into care from £150 to over £4000 and THEN told Haringey to cut legal costs in their child protection unit

I WILL hold him accountable. The "liberal Elite" ARE the Righteous. They don't see the damage they do and never will.

The day Polly Toynbee is raped, mugged and kicked to death for asking a sallow faced youth the time is a day to look forward to.

Anonymous said...

Do you ever think beyond "My Taxes!" The 'underclass' have been allowed to carry-on-scandalous, so that TPTB can draft legislation to bring us all down. Let's kick the overlords of our sock-puppets.

Roger Thornhill said...

Short term:

How about becoming a Magistrate? Then you can stop granting bail to clearly violent sorts and keep the scrotes inside until they are sentenced.

Long term, Roger's aim:

"If you are already a dependent of the State, you will not be entitled to any increases in benefits (money, accommodation etc) if you expand your family in any way"

Expand can mean allow some bloke stay, invite your relatives to stay so you can complain about "overcrowding" and get a bigger place, pop more sprogs etc. Thus you remove the financial incentive yet do not retrospectively change the rules for existing people. I know some what to do this, but we need to neutralise obvious opposition.

JPT said...

The day Polly Toynbee is raped, mugged and kicked to death for asking a sallow faced youth the time is a day to look forward to.

There will be plenty of hand wringing that day!

black hole sunset said...

Socialists have adopted the optimal strategy to promote and extend their own power, privilege and (apparent) standing.

That strategy is this: "Talk a good line in high minded morality but make sure that every program they undertake causes and/or imports misery, thus justifying ever more counterproductive interventions" (repeat until complete state control is achieved)

The only thing a politician actually needs to understand and keep in mind is this: "only fund something if you want to see more of it".

Damo Mackerel said...

OH, you're some mad bastard. That's a compliment by the way.

russ said...

We need to work out what it was that got the people on the streets over the poll tax, then use it to get them out again against the current bunch of left wing arseholes

Anonymous said...

"We need to work out what it was that got the people on the streets over the poll tax, then use it to get them out again against the current bunch of left wing arseholes"

Prove they rigged come dancing, that'll set the buggers off.

Anonymous said...

Another Anonymous wrote
"stop putting new mothers straight to the top of the housing list. Better to keep them all together in a large, communal house where they could work from home."

My neighbour's 18 year old daughter got pregnant a few years ago (early nineties). She was homed in a hostel where she had a room for her and the baby, with other single mothers in their own rooms nearby. No sooner had she got her baby off to sleep than the one next door would start crying and wake them up. Yet she was expected to work on her CV, employable skills etc. during the day. When her kid was about two, she got a job. She didn't get pregnant again for at least ten years.

If it could be done so easily in the recent past, I don't see why it can't be done now.

Dick Puddlecote said...

Russ, they've tightened the whole shebang since the poll tax riots. It simply couldn't happen again.

At the pub before OH's stroll in November, we were informed there were nearly a dozen police vehicles stationed in side-streets along the route.

Rioters will never be allowed anywhere near a focal point such as Trafalgar Square again. It led to one Gov's demise, the fuckers have learnt from their mistakes.

Damo Mackerel said...

We need to work out what it was that got the people on the streets over the poll tax, then use it to get them out again against the current bunch of left wing arseholes.

Ban Cafe lattes and caravan parks.

Anonymous said...

"Rioters will never be allowed anywhere near a focal point such as Trafalgar Square again. It led to one Gov's demise, the fuckers have learnt from their mistakes."

When everyone is finally so sick of this stuff that we all march onto the streets, I don't think a couple of police vans are going to stop the enraged hordes.

It's either going to be a mob of benefit scroungers who've suddenly been cured of their bad backs when the dole money runs out, or a raging platoon of middle-class basket cases who are ready to do the whole Dog Day Afternoon schtick.

But either way, shit is going to kick off. And the only way the coppers caught in the middle of it are going to go is in the opposite direction.

Wouldn't you?

ruby ruby ruby said...

I aint read all the comments and probably posting on the wrong topic, but I am half way through a bottle red so fuck it, heres my post I sent to the D.Mail
Once Karen Matthews and the Div, whose name escapes me, nears the end of their sentences they will have all the support they require to rebuild their lives, Div will get a job in an old peoples home as a dishwasher loader if he passes the I.Q test and Matthews will get a job as a cleaner in an asylum seekers detention centre as a cleaner who makes a nice little earner on the side as a benefits adviser. I hope this sack of shit is still inside post menopause so she cannot continue with her breeding program.
I read that she got an engagement ring (36.99)from Argos after a liaison with geriatric chav who has said she made him feel young again, but she made him keep his shoes on during the session, Don't take yer coat off luv you aint stoppin.
What a load of shitbags

Old Holborn said...

Shit is most certainly going to kick off.

I am starting a campaign next month to encourage EVERYONE to apply for a shotgun licence. 99.9% of applicants will get one.

Methinks the 646 will listen a listen harder knowing that millions of us are finally armed.

Dick the Prick said...

Jeez OH - you can pen a brief. Thought I was reading Leg-Iron at first. I don't really see any of us in dispute. There have been a few foreign chaps as of late saying 'zee eengleesh - they so weak' and it's got me thinking.

Not much like. Cheers folks - from mine to yours - respect.

Dick the Prick said...

PS - if I wanted to fuck Jews, Muslims, Heretics (CoE cunts), Gays, any fuck - fortunately, having being brought up right, I'd use the proper noun. Transfer my shit to your doorstep if you mis-understand me - when I say scum, I mean scum.

haddock said...

"Belgian Hammer Single Barrel 410 £195"

a few cartridges and some change left from my winter heating allowance for a nice fish supper on the way home.

The Grime Reaper said...

Shit is most certainly going to kick off.

I am starting a campaign next month to encourage EVERYONE to apply for a shotgun licence. 99.9% of applicants will get one.

You can count me in O.H.

blades getting blunt.......

Anonymous said...

Black Hole Sunset has it spot on.....but dear jeezus, apart from him, i've never had the joy of reading contemporary responses to a topical news article, from uneducated eugenicists. I LOi "We don't let em breed in the US, lest they have a norplant!" fuck off. Stop taking your anger at the show, out on people who can't help themselves.

Banksters, Zionists and psychopathic world leaders are fair game - Attacking ignorant single mothers, is like picking on the the tramp at school, because the playground bully took your dinner money. Grow some balls!

Shirking From Home said...

Targeted flashmob discourse on feckless MPs blogs, of all colours/creeds, especially those who haven't got a fucking clue about real life.

mad manc cunt said...

OH...
"The day Polly Toynbee is raped, mugged and kicked to death for asking a sallow faced youth the time is a day to look forward to."

Thats beautiful. Poetry. Keats could not have penned anything better! I'm fuckin' filling up!

Old Holborn said...

"Targeted flashmob discourse on feckless MPs blogs, of all colours/creeds, especially those who haven't got a fucking clue about real life."

That would be awful

Anonymous said...

90 people already ? this is serious shit - I won't write fuck all - as I know somebody will already have said it.

ver; redita ??????

Anonymous said...

tell 'em to apply for a section 1 FAC - even better

Anonymous said...

You in the UK collectively adopted a social contract at the end of WWII which resolved to take care of every citizen in need, which at that time made perfect sense since MANY of you were in dire straights.

The problem you are now facing has crept upon you because you failed to adjust your social contract as circumstances changed, i.e., less and less of your citizens suffered war-related hardship. Your compassion for the war victims and willingness to take care of them at any cost has become simply a mindless Nanny State which is willing to relieve virtually your entire citizenry of any personal responsibilty for their own welfare or well being, creating generations of people who have never worked, never intend to work, and who despise anyone who does work.

You are kidding yourselves if you think you can solve your social decay by any other means other then massive welfare reform, and I am confident in saying that will never happen in the lifetimes of you or anyone living today.

The reasons this will never happen are too many for me to post here right now.

Old Holborn said...

Hooray!

TRUE multiculturalism! Labour WORKS!

Indians, Muslim AND West Indians finally working working together

Dick the Prick said...

Anon 00.22 may be stupid but she's my kinda stupid. Lessons from a German - how bad is that? Hit only by thought that I belong. Good work though!!

Rogerborg said...

Steady on with the beardy bashing. Remember that most Excitable Ethnics have bristling manbeards.

The Righteous can be identified by their louche, slack and doughy faces. That's the top ruling class, the ones who got fast tracked from taxpayer funded education into taxpayer funder politics without the tiresome necessity of earning a crust on their own.

By themselves, they're too lazy and feckless to be a threat, but they have their hench-beings, the hatchet faced mad eyed I Voz Only Obeying ze Procedures brigade, to do their bidding.

Hugo said...

Sound and fury, much?

Personally, I would draft the underclass into a militia, and use them to try and take back Normandy and Brittany for the Crown. Whether successful or not, it'd at least be worth a laugh or two.

it's either banned or compulsory said...

anonymous 15:23 said
They are victims, the children and grandchildren of the very same men who fought and died for this country.
Indeed they are.
Blame the goverment for destroying society.
No, blame the Righteous who found themselves a nice little earner in creating and maladministrating the welfare state.
The rot set in with the sacking of Park-Keepers in the 1970s. These, generally semi-retired ex-military types were the first authority figures that the very young came across and were not to be cheeked lightly. Their absence allowed the underclass to run wild in their earliest playgrounds.

It has been known for decades that rewarding slags for irresponsible breeding would bring ruin and the excuse has alwys been ( wring hands now ) " but what about the babies, it's not their fault". My preferred solution then as now ( repost from Nightjack )

The problem is that when Kylie rocks up at the council offices with a frost-bitten Shazaam on her knee, saying that her Mum and new BF have booted her out of house and home, what do we do?"

Offer her and her child secure accomodation in a decent hostel run by a Matron with rules, doors locked 10pm-7am, no boyfriends overnight, good food, rationed access to TV/Sky, no drugs/alcohol, classes in parenting and life skills, pocket money doled out daily in return for housework…. that kind of thing but no creche for her to dump her responsibilities.
Might sound initially expensive but probably not so in the long run.
If Kylie doesn’t like that then put Shazam up for adoption by whatever fat white smoker will have him and put her out on the street.

No More Free Money.

crackers said...

The degradation of the English peoples(Scots etc)is inevitable as it was for the Romans, Greeks, Persians, Phoenicians et al and in a familial context as it was for the Van der Bilts, Rockefellers, Fords, Kennedys and so on. Bad genes drive out good genes as bad currency drives out good.
We do not have the political will to take a wreckers ball to the welfare state since we live in a Potemkin democracy. Our fates are in the hands of a Westminster elite, the BBC, about 30 in the media and 100 or so left wing academics and quango types.
We have knowingly bred the Matthews sub-specie. She was born into the same type of family. Her children are third generation of the sub species.
Neither Lab nor Conservative have the will to deal with the problem - benefits create these people and the idea that social workers and all the support groups can alter the behaviour of millions of sub-species to behaving in a civilised manner is riduculous.
We need a dictator. His name is Theodore Dalrymple.

pagar said...

We need to work out what it was that got the people on the streets over the poll tax

What got them out on the streets was money and it will be money that does it again. If the economy goes the way I think it will there won't be a problem getting people on the streets and that shotgun licence will prove to be an excellent investment.

BTW you can despise chavs for being too stupid to realise that their adopted lifestyles will not result in meaningful and fulfilled lives but you can't blame them for being stupid. The blame lies with those who, for the best of motives, set up a welfare apparatus that encourages people to be parasitic.

Kaygee said...

I'm afraid we'll need more than a few shotguns to clear out the current nest of vipers...

Gareth said...

Karen Matthews and the underclass thrive on Labour's welfare state

"This is, indeed, a defining characteristic of the past 11 years: the tendrils of the state reaching into every aspect of our lives, propping up a large number of people who have never worked and providing unproductive jobs for hundreds of thousands more."

Dick the Prick said...

This celebrity culture thing - the dumbing down of telly etc has to be factored in the mix.

Jeez - I must have been drinking when I start thinking like Atlas!

Nurse - it's an emergency!! Give me some of what the kids are having - blue booze? Are you mad?

Shirking From Home said...

Dick - Sleb culcha is the only thing the UK 'does' any more.

Shit loads of production companies staffed by ex BBC staffers all massaging their collective egos whilst turning out the drivel by the barrel load. The very same drivel they sell back to the BBC at inflated prices subsequently paid for by the tv tax payers. At least ITV pay for it themselves.

Bet Gordon loves it. Keeps the masses quiet of an evening. Preferable to, say, being reminded of the situation this shit hole of a country is in. Even more preferable to, say, than filling out a shot gun licence application form.

Doesn't keep the masses quiet on the buses I use to get to work and back in my neck of the woods. Full of chavs shrieking at the top of their voices to barely recognisable music on their mobile phones wanting to be the next fucking X-factor ejit.

I blame the parents (and Gordon).

Dick the Prick said...

Over on Guido the lad's left a post for a bit about recinding the 1844 Banking Act - just when you think you can't get screwed any more Mandingo turns up.

It absolutely beggars belief that these cunts can't fathom out living within ones means. If that isn't treason, then I don't know what is. This shit permeates - why should the cunts work? Seriously - why should they?

My old dear knows this shit who gets everything on the social and whinges about taxi fares and her central heating not being fixed pronto where as a normal person shits themselves when their boiler fucks up. I paid £186 when mine knackered the other week and on hearing the terms said 'oh, that's cheap' and the lassy replied -'not many people say that' - too fucking true.

I blagged an Economics degree and the primary thing, the thing you skip over as rote is, don't fuck with the money supply.

I'm gonna get fucking wasted today and watch Fiddler on the Roof and come Monday and gonna shift everything into the Israeli stock market - at least those guys know who the fucking enemy is.

Slash & burn - Cortes was an amateur.

WV: trap - you damn straight.

haddock said...

what will get the chav's arses off the settee and out onto the streets is when the race riots start..... you might be glad of them then.
I was told of a working chap who has been working for the last few years on housing association units in London, doing the finishing off bits and watching, he reckons, the keys for the last last 100 or so being handed over to somalis or afghans straight off the boat/plane whatever. he has been on the housing list for years...To him the chav way of life must be attractive.
Chav reads of this sort of thing, afghan woman in million pound house etc and says fuckit i'll have some of that before it's all fuckin' spent.
perhaps they're the clever ones in being a bit ahead of the game... there will be millions more on the dole soon.... fucking millions including plenty of people reading this blog.

Shirking From Home said...

Cannon fodder is fine with me.

electro-kevin said...

"... there will be millions more on the dole soon.... fucking millions including plenty of people reading this blog"

What dole, Haddock ?

Best brush up your fishing skills, my old mucker.

;-)

PS, I'm tired of Survivors - the only people who are allowed to be mad or bad in that series appear to be white, English males.

Aaaargh ! Fuuuucking BBC cuuuuunts ! Grrrrr ! They've got it all so fuuuucking wrong !

*Short and sweet. Rant over*

charcoal said...

"I am starting a campaign next month to encourage EVERYONE to apply for a shotgun licence. 99.9% of applicants will get one."

When WWII kicked off the first thing they did in the UK was to collect in the civilian guns. They have plans to do the same again.

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Anonymous said...

The only way to get people to work instead of collecting money for not working is to stop paying them.

Stop paying extra for breeding.

Put a time limit on housing and food.

Offer no additional support. None.

The fact is that in your society NOBODY is willing to do any of those things. The very THOUGHT of doing them is enough to brand you a fascist or an American. I would be willing to bet that even the vast majority of the poster on this blog are unwilling to entertain significant welfare reform as most of you have either been the recipient of bennies, are still now, or have a relative or friend who is collecting.

The social reforms required to force your workshy population into getting off the dole and onto the payroll will NEVER happen. Not in your or your kids or your grandkids lifetimes.

Everything else is just pissing up the wall.

Anonymous said...

anony 14:23 - You're just so full of hope aren't you.

Damo Mackerel said...

BTW, off topic but I've just heard that the IMF bank is going bust and Gordon Brown has annouced that he's going 'to lead the way' in bailing it out.

wildboarclough said...

I just keep trying to work out how this state of affairs has come about.

Who organised it? Who voted for it? Why has every government from 1945 onwards been so determined to destroy England?

Could we fight back? Yes, perhaps, but at a terrible cost. It would take the equivalent of a civil war to conquer the enemies within and to force the parasites to take responsibility for their own lives. And in the process many innocent lives would be wrecked, and the last remnants of the England we remember would be obliterated. Our victory would be hollow.

It is too late now to prevent the fall of Troy. All we can do is to escape, smuggling out our household gods and hoping to find them a new home elsewhere. It will be less painful to be strangers in a strange land than strangers in our own.

The Penguin said...

Daily Mail playing catch up with you, OH.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1092390/MAIL-COMMENT-Plea-victims-welfare-Britain.html

The Penguin

Anonymous said...

Wildboar has it about right - Many in the UK SAY they are fed up with generations of workshy scoungers and the resulting decay of your country as a going concern.

You even actually BE fed up.

Yet when it comes to DOING WHAT IS REQUIRED to stop the slow motion financial and social suicide, the resolve is just not there. Not even close.

You cannot blame people for taking free, conditionless money in lieu of working for a living. You can and should direct your reform efforts at the system which offers such payments, but the British spine never has nor ever will be up to that task.

microdave said...

Roger Thornhill said: "How about becoming a Magistrate? Then you can stop granting bail to clearly violent sorts and keep the scrotes inside until they are sentenced."

The problem with this is the limited range of sentencing powers available to Magistrates. I know most of us reading this consider them to be part of the problem, but from time to time you will get one publicly express his/her anger at not being able to impose the sort of deterrent really appropriate to a particular case. Even if one did exceed his/her powers, the no win / no fee lawyers would have a field day with an appeal.

The Penguin said...

I can foresee small independent local groups of well organised vigilantes, well tooled up and equipped gradually taking matters into their own hands. There's enough info out there on how a cellular organisation can start and flourish, and in this wonderland of the internet, mobile phones, has to be faster and easier than ever before.

Face(book) it, it 400 chavs can converge within an hour on a party in Brighton to wreck it, couldn't 50 or so indignant citizens turn up in time to hand out a well deserved chastisement to some troublesome yobs before disappearing?

The Penguin

Anonymous said...

Watching Pravda about 3/4 hour ago. Brown has pledged £10M of OUR money to tackle the cholera in Zimbabwe. Words fail me!

wildboarclough said...

The trouble is, Penguin, that the only people with the guts and the means to do this are also the ones who respect the rule of law. They are also the most clueless about covert operations and the easiest for the police to identify and the courts to convict.

Having said that, I'd be up for it. As it is, anything on my property when it shouldn't be is likely to get identified as a sheep-worrying dog, a fox or a crow. My neighbours take the same approach, and this is well known locally. As a result, despite there being a massive cesspit nearby, we get no bother at all, and at least three particularly vexing ratholes have been cleared out.

In general I find that acting alone is asking for trouble: once there are two or more of you the scum don't like the odds. So my advice would be to make sure you live somewhere you have like-minded mates nearby.

But, frankly, we're already in the last ditch, and we can't hold the line much longer. If the police were to stop being social workers and reverted to their proper role of thieftakers and defenders of the innocent we might stand more of a chance.

The Penguin said...

Taking a look through the news and views sections of the forums at http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/Forums/viewforum/f=3.html will show a lot more folk who are similarly exasperated and who have the training and mindset required.

The Penguin

electro-kevin said...

I'm just a normal guy trying to do a normal job, raising a normal family ...

... why do I think my destiny is prison ? Why do I think it almost certain that I, or my family, will be set about by the lawless and blamed by the authorities ?

Am I the only one here who thinks this is their fate ?

I hate my country and I'm jealous of everyone who's left it.

Anonymous said...

It is not a case of if the shit hits the fan but when. The silent majority have had the piss taken out of them for far too long It is only a matter of time.

stranger in my own land said...

" It will be less painful to be strangers in a strange land than strangers in our own, " weep.

black hole sunset said...

I'm pretty sure there is very little that can be done about the people who are already completely dependent on "welfare" payments. The time when they could have picked up a good work ethic or decent education is long past so any hope of improvement in their personal circumstances is slight. Realistically, the only work they will ever be able to get will ultimately turn out to state sponsored or even completely state funded makework that is no more than proxy welfare payments with a misleading venier of self reliance.

The only approach that seems to have any of chance of working in practice is to "draw a line" under the current system and establish a new set of welfare rules (real ones this time) into which new chitizens are born after a certain date (new immigrants would count as being 'born' in this context). As frustrating as it might be, we would just have to let the existing underclass work its way through the old welfare system of its own accord.

It'd presumably take a good 10 years to see any kind of improvement but I think this is an "English" way to go about things - i.e. moderate, compationate, conflict avoiding (unless someone really gets up our noses of course - then they're fucking asking for it =).

I personally hate the fucking guts of the moronic, slack-faces scum that blight every highstreet in this (once great) land but it's taken decades to get into this position and I think it'll take decades to get out (maybe only a couple) without serious damage to Britain - which is what we want to avoid in the first place.

Anonymous said...

Rioters will never be allowed anywhere near a focal point such as Trafalgar Square again. It led to one Gov's demise, the fuckers have learnt from their mistakes.

05 December 2008 22:23

Well try fucking Heathrow then!

mad manc cunt said...

Just been watching Jeremy clarkson..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7766057.stm

He reckons we are fucked and should get allotments. Bollocks to that. If it happens I'm going to bag me a fuckin' chav family to eat. Not the skinny variety, they are going on the fire to keep me warm. I'm talking the fat cunt variety. Should keep me and my family fed for a couple of years at least!
Will probably stock up on chilli powder though to mask the taste of the scummy cunts.

black hole sunset said...

stranger in my own land said...

If you watch "The Mayfair Set", one of the episodes ("part one - Who Pays Wins", 44:17 in) has an SAS guy taking about what (socialist) Britain looked like to him when he returned to these fair shores after 20 years abroad trying to support the (true) interests of Britain.

"I found a rather sad Britain in many ways .. the Britain that I had been projecting ... was not the Britain which really existed ..." is what he said, and that was way back in the mists of time (things ain't no better now).

The DOSSIER | Video (about 2/3rds down the page)
part one - Stream (realmedia)
part one - Download (realmedia)

The whole series is well worth a watch.

Dick the Prick said...

EK - calm down. Just done Fiddler on roof and Tristan & Isolde - life don't get better. It;s single boys like me who are gonna do damage. Just waiting until mr ma pegs it - then, if I get shot, no worries.

Dick the Prick said...

Meant me ma - fucking shite typo.

Dave said...

130 posts OH?
Shurely a record?

Old Holborn said...

Dave, nah

311

Dick Puddlecote said...

Dick the Prick @ 11:07: "My old dear knows this shit who gets everything on the social and whinges about taxi fares and her central heating not being fixed pronto where as a normal person shits themselves when their boiler fucks up."

Had this one before in my place. A git sat in our office as he was having his central heating completely renewed by the council, for FREE. "It's bloody annoying as I can't watch telly while they're doing it, and they are taking ages".

We're talking about £4k of improvements to his FREE home.

The general office view was that we wished the council had let the ungrateful cunt freeze.

it's either banned or compulsory said...

black hole sunset Thanks for that Mayfair Set link, I was always curious about Britains role in Yemen when we were supposed to be retreating from Empire.
Ta also for the timely reminder of the consequences flowing from the last time Labour fucked up the economy and for what Traitor Heath looked like.

Jack of All Trades said...

"I'm afraid we'll need more than a few shotguns to clear out the current nest of vipers..."

Hmmm... Possible surge in the number of lever-action rifles purchased... Tubular magazine** probably going to be more common than detachable magazine*. Whoever owns Browning* and Marlin** is going to have a very good year...

Goodnight Vienna said...

Someone else has been reading your blog OH
"If each of us carried a gun"
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/article5299010.ece

The Penguin said...

Yet another misuse of the crappy anti-terrorist laws, this time to try and keep campaigners out of an appeal hearing.

"The DoH's appeal against the commissioner's decision will be heard by the Information Tribunal, at a cost to the taxpayer of more than £40,000.

Ministers have been accused of "heavy handed" tactics by seeking to bar the Pro-Life Alliance from attending the tribunal, using a legal procedure designed to curb the rights of terrorist suspects."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/women_shealth/3630325/Ministers-fight-to-keep-late-abortions-secret.html

The Penguin

Anonymous said...

I'm not completely clear how I view the Pro-Life Alliance however, the Information Commissioner decided they should be given the information - so they should. This £40K seems similat to the money spent by Gorbals Mick to ensure information on expenses wasn't revealed. Voting out is really far to good for this scum - public humiliation & disgrace is the very least they deserve.
Taking on board OH's thing about making life difficult for feral scum. I've got some that live on my road - some bloke who's always pissed as a rat & starts arguments with another household (single Mum, ex-husband comes & stays the weekend, however, the kids are always clean & seem happy & well-cared for - I can generally hear them laughing as they play out in the back garden - not the street -so I'll walk away from that one). Anyway, I was down in my local supermarket last evening & heard a commotion outside, went out to go to the car & it's blokey,with a mate, shouting his head off & waving his fists at the afore mentioned Mum & thumping the window behind her, who's trying to ignore him. So I went & got the security guards - who were as much use as chocolate teapots & hung around in the porch discussing what they might do. The other customers were trying to ignore it too so she was on her own. I was very tempted to sidle off too & then I just decided to go for it . I walked up to him & shouted 'I know you' he turned round & started ff-ing & blinding at me so I shouted again 'I know you' & his mate turned and said 'do you know me too, Mrs?' So I looked him full in the face & shouted 'yes, I do know you too - and I know where you live so I'll be able to tell the police where to come & pick you up when they turn up here.' At which point they both decided they didn't want any further hassle & walked off. I was sh*tting myself with fear but they must have been really f*cked off to have been seen off by an old dear in a bobble hat - and in front of a crowd of people. Next time he causes a disturbance I will call the police & make an official complaint - and go to the local paper - who are quite good about this sort of thing - if Plod doesn't do anything.

Old Holborn said...

*Applause*

Tuscan Tony said...

that's surely the Beast in the beanie hat on the left?

The Beast Of Clerkenwell said...

The Conservative party destroyed the "respectable" working class(peasent)
I think we need to end all benefits
Fuck "lifting children out of poverty"
My chimmney needs sweeping,and it needs sweeping now!
So get up there you little bastard if you want to eat.
Id bet we would see a lot less fat kids
More Chimmney sweeping and boot blacking is the cure for obesity.

The Beast Of Clerkenwell said...

Fuck I mispelt chimney
that makes me a chav
and I didnt use capitals
except the "I"

swansea jack said...

And you write in blank verse Beast
Which makes you a poet
Quick apply to the gummint
They'll give you a grant

black hole sunset said...

anon @ 23:23 "Black Hole Sunset has it spot on.....but dear jeezus ..."

Steady on there, I wholeheartedly endorse the sentiment of pretty much every comment on this post. I'm only promoting analysis and (occasional) moderation because I think it will ultimately produce the most favourable outcome for me and people like me (i.e. people on this blog).

Whether we take a slow and peaceful approach to the chav-scum problem or a quick and bloody one, I still think they should be held in rancorous (and open) contempt. It's the least they deserve as individuals who, at the end of the day, have made a choice to become who they are. Even single mothers must be fair game if it's clear their pregnancy is just about playing the system (anything less is basically what we have right now where unsupported pregnancy is a license to print money).

Healthy group dynamics demands of us they we make, at the very least, a token gesture of punishment - open contempt is at the mild end of the spectrum. In times gone by, the likes of Karen Matthews would have literally been left to the wolves. To my mind, anything less than that counts as compasion, even now.

black hole sunset said...

it's either banned or compulsory: "Thanks for that Mayfair Set link .."

You're more than welcome, what a great series (all his stuff is worth watching at least once).

"... for what Traitor Heath looked like."

Heath was a weak, pompuous old queen. With some of these politicians (even today), I'm left with the distinct impression that their accent is the most imposing thing about them =)

My vote for the most overrated figure in the history of British politics goes to Denis Healey, who, as far as I can make out, is nothing but a shitty old closet commie who was well and truly knobbled by the KGB while in office and actively collaborated with the USSR at the height of the cold war. Deceitful, traitorous scum.

Almost a futuristic vision of the Labour party which was to come. The USSR is gone so they've just moved on to the best best thing, the EUSSR.

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