Sunday, 7 December 2008

Let the Bullying begin

Daniel Cohn-Bendit MEP(Germany, Greens): I brought you a flag, which - as we heard - you have everywhere here at the Prague Castle. It is the flag of the European Union, so I will place it here in front of you.

It will be a tough Presidency. The Czech Republic will have to deal with the work directive and climate package. EU climate package represents less than what our fraction would wish for. It will be necessary to hold on to the minimum of that. I am certain that the climate change represents not only a risk, but also a danger for the future development of the planet. My view is based on scientific views and majority approval of the EP and I know you disagree with me. You can believe what you want, I don't believe, I know that global warming is a reality.

Lisbon Treaty: I don't care about your opinions on it. I want to know what you are going to do if the Czech Chamber of Deputies and the Senate approve it. Will you respect the will of the representatives of the people? You will have to sign it.

I want you to explain to me what is the level of your friendship with Mr Ganley from Ireland. How can you meet a person whose funding is unclear? You are not supposed to meet him in your function. It is a man whose finances come from problematic sources and he wants to use them to be funding his election campaign into the EP.

President Vaclav Klaus: I must say that nobody has talked to me in such a style and tone for the past 6 years. You are not on the barricades in Paris here. I thought that these manners ended for us 18 years ago but I see I was wrong. I would not dare to ask how the activities of the Greens are funded. If you are concerned about a rational discussion in this half an hour, which we have, please give the floor to someone else, Mr Chairman.

EU Parliament President Hans-Gert Pöttering: No, we have plenty of time. My colleague will continue, because anyone from the members of the EP can ask you whatever he likes. (to Cohn-Bendit:) Please continue.

President Vaclav Klaus: This is incredible. I have never experienced anything like this before.

Daniel Cohn-Bendit: Because you have not experienced me..

President Vaclav Klaus: This is incredible.

Daniel Cohn-Bendit: We have always had good talks with President Havel. And what will you tell me about your attitude towards the anti-discrimination law? I will gladly inform you about our funding.

Hans-Gert Pöttering: Brian Crowley, please.

Brian Crowley MEP: I am from Ireland and I am a member of a party in government. All his life my father fought against the British domination. Many of my relatives lost their lives. That is why I dare to say that the Irish wish for the Lisbon Treaty. It was an insult, Mr. President, to me and to the Irish people what you said during your state visit to Ireland. It was an insult that you met Declan Ganley, a man with no elected mandate. This man has not proven the sources from which his campaign was funded. I just want to inform you what the Irish felt. I wish you that you get the programme of your Presidency through and you will get through what European citizens want to see.

President Vaclav Klaus: Thank you for this experience which I gained from this meeting. I did not think anything like this is possible and have not experienced anything like this for the past 19 years. I thought it was a matter of the past that we live in democracy, but it is post-democracy, really, which rules the EU.

You mentioned the European values. The most important value is freedom and democracy. The citizens of the EU member states are concerned about freedom and democracy, above all. But democracy and freedom are losing ground in the EU today. It is necessary to strive for them and fight for them.

I would like to emphasize, above all, what most citizens of the Czech Republic feel, that for us the EU membership has no alternative. It was me who submitted the EU application in the year 1996 and who signed the Accession treaty in 2003. But the arrangements within the EU have many alternatives. To take one of them as sacrosanct, untouchable, about which it is not possible to doubt or criticize it, is against the very nature of Europe.

As for the Lisbon Treaty, I would like to mention that it is not ratified in Germany either. The Constitutional Treaty, which was basically the same as the Lisbon Treaty, was refused in referendums in other two countries. If Mr. Crowley speaks of an insult to the Irish people, then I must say that the biggest insult to the Irish people is not to accept the result of the Irish referendum. In Ireland I met somebody who represents a majority in his country. You, Mr. Crowley, represent a view which is in minority in Ireland. That is a tangible result of the referendum.

Brian Crowley MEP: With all respect, Mr. President, you will not tell me what the Irish think. As an Irishman, I know it best.

President Vaclav Klaus: I do not speculate about what the Irish think. I state the only measurable data which were proved by the referendum.

In our country the Lisbon Treaty is not ratified because our parliament has not decided on it yet. It is not the President's fault. Let's wait for the decision of both Chambers of the Parliament, that is the current phase of the ratification process in which the President plays no role whatsoever. I cannot sign the Treaty today, it is not on my table, it is up to the parliament to decide about it now. My role will come after the eventual approval of the Treaty in the Parliament. .

Hans-Gert Pöttering: ... In the conclusion - and I want to leave this room in good terms - I would like to say that it is more than unacceptable, if you compare us, compare us with the Soviet Union. We are all deeply rooted in our countries and our constituencies. We are concerned about freedom and reconciliation in Europe, we are good willing, not naïve.

President Vaclav Klaus: I did not compare you with the Soviet Union, I did not mention the word[s] "Soviet Union". I only said that I have not experienced such an atmosphere, such style of debate in the past 19 years in the Czech Republic, really.

A modern hero. Hat tip here


deeply depressed said...

I've not had a hero for many years, but President Vaclav Klaus is looking good. He had better hire a food taster sharpish.

The Penguin said...

Watch out for the polonium, Vaclav. Or that stuff they gave the poor fucker in the Ukraine.

The Penguin

Cato said...

Danny Cohn-Bendit should have been shot by the CRS back in 1968...or thereabouts. He is a fucking terrorist.

no longer anonymous said...

I can't believe this. I know the Eurocrats are a bunch of arrogant authoritarians but I thought they had the good dense to hide the fact. I hope Havel kicks up a massive fuss about this in the Czech Republic. I'm surprised he spoke so moderately to be honest, I would have been outraged and given them a piece of mind.

Anonymous said...

I went visiting & left a comment re Vaclav Klaus. Other people might like to too?

Anonymous said...

Vaclav Klaus had better watch that Michael Martin doesn't send the Stasi round to raid his house.

In the meantime, what are the chances of the goat's scrotum running the UK giving us a fucking say in this matter?

Chalcedon said...

What an arrogant shit that Irish MEP is. The Irish voted "No" to the Lisbon treaty. That's an end of it. Klaus reminds the prick and good for him. As for Cohn-Bendit, he deserves a smack in the gob. Bloody terrorist that he is.

Surely Klaus is free to visit who he likes. If it's Ganley, so what? Funny how they are so worried about being compared to the USSR in the EP.

Thud said...

Our lives seemed to be ruled by a bunch of failed socialist psychopaths and sociopaths that having failed in terrorism now plan to succeed through the unaccountable European parliament...we are being destroyed by our own flawed democracy.

Old Holborn said...

"we are being destroyed by our own flawed democracy."

No, we are being destroyed by those who will not pay attention to democracy

Goodnight Vienna said...

Vaclav Klaus is a deeply honourable man who deserves a deal more respect from the likes of Danny the Red, Crowley & Pottering. The latter seems to be particularly sensitive to any perceived comparison of the EU to Nazi Germany/USSR as Daniel Hannan MEP knows only too well. The EU isn't going to release its control of the people willingly. We're already up to our necks in quicksand.

Ampers said...

When Heath was asked on Television - and I remember it well - the commentator asked hom "DId you know you were taking us in to what woUld turn out to be a political organisation?"

He answered unbelievably, and watch my lips...

Of course I bloody did


fuchsia groan said...

Ted Heath is one of the biggest traitors this nation has every spawned. It is my hope he will, one day, (I don't think it will be in my lifetime) be posthumously stripped of his Knighthood and given the Oliver Cromwell treatment, as meted out by Charles II.

Anonymous said...

When I am many others voted in Ireland it was over the legal clauses.Police powers-widened but unspecified.I also thought the Govt were theiving shites.I was going to put my vote on Ebay.

The Scumbag said...

Was going to put this on my fledgling blog last night but had too much beer to type properly... Words fail me about the arrogance of the bastards running the EU

OH - have you spotted that your favourite vegan blogger Kerry has pulled in the welcome mat?

Sir Henry Morgan said...

D C-B is also a nonce:

"On a television current affairs programme on Monday night, M. Cohn-Bendit - leader of the 1968 student revolt in France, now a Green Euro-MP - implied that the National Front leader, Jean-Marie Le Pen, had tortured captives during the French colonial war in Algeria. Faced with similar accusations in the past, M. Le Pen has always denied outright torture. His daughter, Marine, retaliated by recalling accusations - always denied and never proven - of paedophile behaviour by M. Cohn-Bendit as a nursery teacher in Germany in the 1970s.

On the France 3 public television channel, M. Cohn-Bendit compared the allegations of brutal treatment of Iraqi prisoners by US troops with incidents in the "colonial past".

Mme. Le Pen, said: "Jean-Marie Le Pen at least won his case when he was accused of being a torturer. When you were accused of being a paedophile, you never won your case." M. Cohn-Bendit retorted: "Because no one brought a case and there was no reason to do so." He was accused four years ago of allowing sexual games to take place with children when he was a nursery school teacher in Frankfurt in the 1970s.

He denied this but said that there was some mildly flirtatious behaviour which formed part of the sexually liberated atmosphere of the times.

Mme. Le Pen told him: "You should have sued but you couldn't because it was the truth. Jean-Marie Le Pen would never allow children to fiddle with the fly of his trousers."


"here is what this [add suitable anglosaxon words here] wrote in his book Le grand bazar, published in 1976:

"It happened to me several times that certain kids opened my fly and began to tickle me. I reacted differently according to circumstances, but their desire posed a problem for me. I asked them: 'Why don't you play together? Why have you chosen me, and not the other kids?' But if they insisted, I caressed them even so." "

(Commenter Mikgen on EU Referendum)

Goodnight Vienna said...

Have you all read this from PJC Journal? It's o/t but very much in keeping with the spirit of the blog. In the mediastorm of the Green business it's had little mainstream coverage.

Gustav Meyrink said...

Years after throwing off the USSR yolk, the Czechs are still revelling in their freedom and it shows in their good humour, friendliness and cheerfulness.

Contrast that with Brussels, the dark heart of the EUSSR, where ordinary people look over their shoulders and speak politics in lowered voices in case they're overheard by Stasi snitches or the weirdbeard Jihadists the Socialist Party has imported by the hundreds of thousands in exchange for votes.

Hats off to the Czech President for having the bottle to face off these arrogant elitist bastards! Not sure if they can still do it, but the Czechs should turn round and tell Cohen-Bandit & co to stick the Lisbon Treaty up their well-used arses....

Panopticon Britain said...

Kerry Mccarthy has done the blog equivalent of saying "Look over there!" and running away, but moderating her comments.

"And there are some people I just don't want on this site, and won't be accepting comments from."
I wonder who the bitch is talking about....

Damo Mackerel said...

That Irish MEP is a fool. He certainly doesn't speak for me. We're having another referendum early next year... don't worry we'll vote NO to that too.

swindon_alan said...

"The Scumbag said...

OH - have you spotted that your favourite vegan blogger Kerry has pulled in the welcome mat?"

To be honest, I can't even read her site. Viz:

"Wednesday: nice start to the day - haircut, accompanied by a soya latte and vegan blueberry muffin at the cafe there (highly recommended)"


Damo Mackerel said...

BTW, did the Czech parliment eventually ratified the Lisbon treatry anyway? Us Irish are now out on our own and ye Brits.. well what are ye doing anyhow?

Thud said...

OH...if anything we have too much democracy...or at least its trappings.We have elections to rubber stamp a european parliament that fronts for those who endeavour to destroy our nations and societies.People do not understand it and they don't bother to vote in any real numbers...then democracy is served and we all suffer from the consequences.

Old Holborn said...

Damo, why are you having ANOTHER referendum?

Will there be another one after that? And another?

Gustav. The Czechs won't let it happen twice. They have seen tanks rolling down their streets against their wishes. I would happily stand by them in Prague.

microdave said...

Poor dear, is she finding her job a teensy weensy bit difficult? Nothing like "Moderating" free speech is there? Why shouldn't "her" constituents hear alternative views? If she finds some of the comments "deeply unpleasant" tough!! I find living in this once great country deeply unpleasant now, thanks to the likes of her....

Trixy said...

Pottering is a nasty man, who used to be head of the group the Tories sit in. His colleagues still do.

British Green MEPs have Danny Arse Bandit as their leader.

And any people who vote for pro EU MEPs: Labour, Tories, Lib Dems and Greens are voting for these people you have quoted here.

I worked in the European Parliament for years, I was attacked on three occasions because I was not pro EU. It's simple: if you want democracy then you have to vote to leave the EU.

Damo Mackerel said...

OH, we're having another referendum because certain amendments have being made for us. But we now know how the Irish Government operates... keep having a vote, one after the other
until the people vote the 'right' way. We're sick of it. So the next LTR will be voted down.

black hole sunset said...

Creepy, sinister, predictable.

"Brian Crowley MEP: With all respect, Mr. President, you will not tell me what the Irish think. As an Irishman, I know it best."

" will not.."? Very insistent out mister Crowley isn't he.

"As an Irishman, I know it best." Can't count either.

I know I'm wasting my time pointing this out (because there isn't supposed to be any consistency to their worldview, it isn't supposed to make sense, it's just a hand-to-mouth fabrication as immidiate self-interest demands) .... but, isn't that racism??

So, agressive, innumerate and racist. I thought the EU was supposed to be about "progressive" (regressive) "enlightened" (arrogant) leadership and "shared" (mandatory) values?

Mark my words, it's the tip of the fucking iceberg that's visible at the moment (or even less). It's only their crass, arrogant stupidity that's causing them to make so many slips before their position of authority is set in stone.

Niall Kearney said...

Crowley is a good example of what we have in the country (Ireland) right now.

We happen to be in the same unique and at the same time opposite position the UK is in. We have a PM that has left office (although under more suspect circumstances) (the government want the banks to be funed privtely) and the lisbon thing is being treated like they have had some yolk splodged on their face after biting into a nice breakfast roll and they still haven't be been told that all the Irish bacon has been recalled due to contamination of a carcinogenic compound.

If we could elect MEP's for the euro's, by god, we'd elect better idiots than Crowley.

phoebe said...


We joined the EU in 1972. After 35 years inside we now know:

1. The European Union has the constitution of a dictatorship.
2. The EU has the laws of a police state which will be enforced after the sixth treaty is signed.
3. The EU’s 111,000 regulations will bring us a soviet style command economy and abject poverty.
4. Unelected EU dictators will control the nuclear weapons of former nations of Britain and France.
5. The EU ’s Constitution will compel us to hand over all our armed forces to the EU.
6. Our armed forces and police have been told they will swear a new oath to the EU, or be fired.
7. Its 111,000 regulations will rigidly control our personal lives moreso than any nation in history.
8. EU regulations now cost us £100 billion a year. (Better Regulation Commission annual report 2005)
9. When enforced, those regulations will destroy hundreds of thousands of small businesses.
10. Millions will be unemployed after EU regulations close small businesses.
11. The 111,000 regulations will make us subject to continual arrest (SOCPA 2005).
12. There are now 3,095 “Crimes against the EU state” on the British statute book.
13. We will be stopped on the street for continual checks on our EU ID cards from 2009.
14. The EU Constitution will replace the British Constitution (currently planned for May 2009).
15. Under the EU Constitution, there is no place for the Westminster Parliament, which will go.
16. The EU’s Road Pricing and then ID chips will keep the state informed of our exact position.
17. Huge taxes/fines by the EU’s Road Pricing, Congestion Charging and global warming policies.
18. The EU Regionalisation Plan will abolish our 48 counties in favour of 9 EU regions.
19. The 9 EU regions will report direct to Brussels, not to Westminster, which will be defunct.
20. The EU Regionalisation Plan will abolish our 19,579 councillors.
21. Police have shot 30 innocent people dead since 1992 with no successful prosecutions.
22. 1,000 deaths in police custody since 1992 and no prosecutions.
23. British common law mainly replaced by EU corpus Juris by 1992. Government is now above the law.
24. Police Shoot to Kill policy now in force; illegal under British common law, OK under EU corpus juris.
25. EU conceived on 22nd June 1940 speechon forming the EEC by Herman Goering.
26. Hitler, von Ribbentrop, and Herman Goering designed the EU.
27. After fall of Germany, the Germans switched the EU from a Nazi to a communist basis in 1946.
28. Hitler’s Deutsche Verteidigungs Dienst Intelligence Department (DVD) now controls the EU.
29. Edward Heath, Geoffrey Rippon, Roy Jenkins recruited by the DVD in 1958 as saboteurs.
30. DVD has arranged finance to put proEUownerships into British newspaper groups.
31. EU has been sabotaging Britain with German Frankfurt School techniques since the 1950’s.
33. The EU’s main subversive organisation in Britain, Common Purpose, is run from the ODPM.
34. The EU’s Common Purpose has trained 24,000 local leaders for “the post democratic era”
35. Common Purpose has been inside the NHS for 20 years, controls it, and has wrecked it.
36. Common Purpose has 400 staff inside the BBC censoring out anti-EUnews and current affairs.
37. Common Purpose has staff in hundreds of local newspapers censoring out antiEUnews
38. Common Purpose is transferring power from councillors to the unelected council executives.
39. Common Purpose has built the EU gravy trains inside local and national government.
40. Common Purpose has built most of Britain’s 8,500 quangos costing us £124 billion pa
41. These quangos bribe compliant, pro EU local officials and businessmen with £150,000+ salaries.
42. EU quangos are the reason your council tax is going through the roof.
43. The EU is utterly corrupt and cannot account for 95% of its expenditure (yes, ninety five % lost)
44. The EU has over 200,000 offshore bank accounts from which it pays bribes.
45. We now lose £30 billion a year trading with the EU. Outside, we had an even balance of payments.
46. EU Constitution is similar to the Soviet. And EU Commissioners similar to Soviet Politburo members.
47. The EU parliament is a sham with no power just like the old Soviet parliament.
48. The leadership of the Conservative Party has been controlled by the EU since the 1960’s.
49. The Labour and Lib Dem leaderships EU controlled for 20 years that’s why your vote doesn’t count.
50. The Amsterdam Treaty 1997 gave the EU control of our immigration, now running at a million a year.
51. Our infrastructure can’t cope with the 5 million immigrants the EU has let in since 1997.
52. 350,000 highly qualified British emigrate annually to escape from the EU and its overcrowding.

You can stop the EU with the campaigns at

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Anonymous said...

Later in 2001 Daniel Cohn-Benditwas accused of pedophilia. The ground of the accusation was the following quote from his book Le grand bazar, published in 1976"It happened to me several times that certain kids opened my fly and began to tickle me. I reacted differently according to circumstances, but their desire posed a problem for me. (...) But if they insisted, I caressed them even so."

Anonymous said...

Cohn-Bendit was born in France to German-Jewish parents.

He was entitled to German and French citizenships, but he renounced the latter in order to avoid conscription.

Back in Frankfurt in the family house, Cohn-Bendit became one of co-founders of the autonomist group Revolutionärer Kampf (Revolutionary Struggle) in Rüsselsheim. From this point his fate was linked with Joschka Fischer, another leader in the group. Both were later to become leaders of the Realo wing of the German Green Party, alongside many former Communist libertarian leftists.

Some have suggested that the group participated in violent terrorist action, which was common in the German extreme left of the early-seventies..

In 2003 a request was presented by Frankfurt prosecutors to the European Parliament, requesting they waive the immunity of MEP Cohn-Bendit, in the context of a criminal investigation against Hans-Joachim Klein, but the request was rejected by the assembly. Cohn-Bendit admitted having helped Klein on several instances, notably when Klein surrendered to the police.

While Fischer was more concerned with demonstrations, Cohn-Bendit worked in the Karl-Marx bookshop and ran a kindergarten, with the stated ambition of radically transforming German mentalities.

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