Sunday, 30 November 2008

Whooops a fucking daisy

"Don't call me a liar, you fucker. I can have you killed"


Apart from her obvious evasion over the issue of who knew what, something has been bothering me about the Home Secretary's assertion in her interview with Andrew Marr this morning.

For days now, Ms Smith & Gordon Brown have spitting out the line that Police independence is paramount, as if the police were not under the control of the Home Office. Only if this is true (or if the Police are truly out of control) can Labour escape the charge that they have facilitated the arrest of a member of the opposition in a direct assault upon centuries of constitutional privilege.

Ms Smith was asked on the BBC's Andrew Marr programme if she would say sorry - but said it would be wrong for her to intervene in a police investigation. Had she intervened it would have been "Stalinist" as she believed in the principle of police being independent even when things get "tricky".

All very plausible. "Police independence" sounds like a good idea.

Until you consider that it was the same Jacqui Smith, Home Secretary - who prevented the SFO (who last time I checked were a part of the Police) from investigating corruption allegations in relation to Saudia Arabian arms contracts.


The head of an influential parliamentary arms committee today said he was "very concerned" at the government's refusal to cooperate with the US criminal investigation into allegations of corruption against BAE Systems.
More than two months after the US justice department formally requested assistance in its investigation of Britain's biggest arms company, the home secretary, Jacqui Smith, has failed to pass on the request to the Serious Fraud Office.


Ms Smith's go-ahead is required before the SFO can cooperate.

So there you have it - Police independence is paramount. Except when it isn't.

Hat tip to Cassius

16 comments:

The Scumbag said...

This is the same wacky Jackie who is so in favour of having an independent cadre of rozzers that she overrules pay award recommendations and gives them tazers that they don't need (doubtless because they don't stop Brazillian electricians fast enough) http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article5224058.ece

Looks like she only wants them to be independent when it suits her. Slippery bitch

patently said...

Police independence is absolutely vital, so long as the police are doing exactly what Labour want them to do.

Gareth said...

At times it is the other way round patently. The lot in power now acquiesce to the Police and security services too much. On the powers granted to the Police. On the powers granted to bog standard civil servants. On detention without trial. All too often on these big issues the Government says 'The Police say they need it so the Police should have it'.*

They shirk the responsibility of their Office by claiming it was someone else who pushed for it. Yet they never appear to push back.

It's hard to know who is in the driving seat.

* I suppose the Police might well get their ideas from the Government. In which case it is nothing more than a shell game to confuse the issue and pass the buck if the shit hits the fan.

Rab C. Nesbitt said...

Funny how they only have 'ethics' when it fucking suits them.

haddock said...

"Mr Martin’s critics are expected to strike on Wednesday at the start of the debate on the Queen’s Speech,....There are also rumours of a public protest by Mr Martin’s critics when he leads the daily Speaker’s Procession to the Commons chamber. It passes through Parliament’s Central Lobby, where MPs meet constituents, and which is open to the public."

*quietly walks away whistling*

Old Holborn said...

Unfortunately, Winter openings of Parliament are not open to the Public Haddock

Call me Infidel said...

I was interested to read Richard North on the EU referendum blog.

http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2008/11/losing-plot.html

He claims that Green was acting more as a journalist than as an MP. This may very well be true. He also states...

“Thus, what we have is a situation where a civil servant has been acting entirely in breach of the core principles of government administration, passing confidential information to a shadow cabinet minister, for entirely partisan party political reasons.”

I don’t dispute this, but why did it take a police investigation? He should have been dismissed from his post it did not require the services of anti terrorism police.

I hope this backfires on Smith and Broon and with more bad news to come involving Balls it looks increasingly like Zanu are under the cosh.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article5258473.ece

Olly Garchy said...

This David Normington that 'allegedly' requested the police involvement also (according to one of the papers today) chairs the committee that will select/approve the new Met chief.

So that's OK then.

Re- the Marr interview.
It's inconceivable that Smith wasn't apprised of the situation - at every stage.

Dick the Prick said...

I'm fucked, you're fucked, we're all fucked.

Shirking From Home said...

Fucking bastards.

Anonymous said...

Message from Cassius:

If anyone sees Obnoxio, tell him to credit the link properly or Jacqui and the lads will be round to search his underwear draw.

Took nearly eight minutes to write that post and Ritalin doesn't grown on trees, apparently.

Ciao!

Nigel said...

I saw Jacqui Smith on TV this morning and she has a ten inch scar along her head. Is this a loboomy scar or just the tracks of a huge hair inplant? Neither is a god look.

Anonymous said...

Could this have been a case of the acting commisioner trying to please Zanu by arresting a member of the opposition.
Perhaps hoping that he would score brownie points and enhance his chances of getting the post?
If so it looks as if it may have backfired and he has succeeded in dropping himself and the government in the shit.-Shame:-)

Gareth said...

A test for Acting Commissioner Stephenson. Yes I could buy that idea. To see if he will show the appropriate deference to Parliament or just the Government, or to see if he is a 'rules is rules' man. Something like that.

More importantly has he failed or passed?

Government appear in the shit but are denying almost everything and saying rules is rules so it's all legit. Discretion has been educated out of Plod. Common sense and personal responsibility has been educated out of Public. Authority hide behind the rules.

The timing of the arrest is doubly suspicious. Parliament wasn't sitting and the Sally Murrer case was about to hit the papers. Plod will have known this.(There is something odd about the Murrer judgement - case thrown out on Tuesday but wasn't allowed to be reported on for a few days...)

thelastofthefew said...

Just check out the 13 BNP members arrested in Liverpool last week for legal distribution of leaflets that had been checked by the CPS and advised OK to distribute. There crime, deflamatory leaflets..............is it me or a pattern here.
I dont support the BNP but if your docs are all checked as OK whats the crime. I'll tell you.....pissing off an already shit government, with a shit record, with a liar as a PM, Chancellor and home sec

mikey said...

How long do I have to wait before we bring these fuckers to their knees? I'm starting to get bored waiting.

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